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BumRushDaShow

(129,129 posts)
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:17 PM Aug 2018

UPDATE: Flags at White House return to half-staff in tribute to McCain

Last edited Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Washington Post

White House officials again lowered the American flag atop the building to half-staff Monday afternoon after intense criticism of the administration's response to Sen. John McCain's death, and bipartisan calls from Congress to lower the flag.

"Despite our differences on policy and politics, I respect Senator John McCain's service to our country and, in his honor, have signed a proclamation to fly the flag of the United States at half-staff until the day of his interment," Trump wrote, breaking his two-day silence on the Arizona senator's life.

The president also said he had requested that Vice President Pence speak at Capitol Hill services honoring McCain on Friday, and Chief of Staff John F. Kelly, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Ambassador John Bolton to represent his administration at the funeral. And he said he had authorized military assistance for the funeral and burial. Trump was not invited to the funeral. former president Barack Obama and George W. Bush are scheduled to deliver eulogies.

The move Monday afternoon came after White House officials had raised the flag to full-staff earlier in the day, and Trump ignored almost a dozen shouted questions about McCain while White House staffers convulsed over his reaction.



Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/flags-at-white-house-return-to-full-staff-after-brief-tribute-to-mccain/2018/08/27/14f5a9b2-a9ec-11e8-a8d7-0f63ab8b1370_story.html



I don't who did it (maybe Ivanka) but someone got to him. He was being obstinate.

Original article and title -

Trump signs proclamation for flag to be flown at half-staff to honor McCain after criticism that White House raised flag too soon

BREAKING: After flying at half-staff for barely a day in tribute to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), U.S. flags at the White House and many other federal properties were raised Monday morning, sparking criticism that President Trump was not properly honoring the senator.

He reversed that decision Monday afternoon.

"Despite our differences on policy and politics, I respect Senator John McCain's service to our country and, in his honor, have signed a proclamation to fly the flag of the United States at half-staff until the day of his interment," Trump said in a statement.

This story is developing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/flags-at-white-house-return-to-full-staff-after-brief-tribute-to-mccain/2018/08/27/14f5a9b2-a9ec-11e8-a8d7-0f63ab8b1370_story.html



Edit to add - the American Legion sent out this tweet -



TEXT

The American Legion

@AmericanLegion

Nat'l Cmdr Rohan letter to President Trump: "I strongly urge you to make an appropriate presidential proclamation noting Senator McCain's death & legacy of service to our nation, & that our nation's flag be half-staffed through his interment." Statement: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid1957739040943293&id183989338318281&refm_notifif_tfeed_comment ...
2:37 PM - Aug 27, 2018


The above tweet has a link to the American Legion (mobile) Facebook page that had this response -

The American Legion National Headquarters

Nat'l Cmdr Denise Rohan sent the following letter to President Trump, urging the White House to issue a proclamation keeping the US flag at half staff through his internment of Sen. #JohnMcCain:‬

Dear President Trump,

The American Legion urges the White House to follow long-established protocol following the death of prominent government officials.

Mr. President, just this year, you released presidential proclamations noting the deaths of Barbara Bush and Billy Graham. Senator John McCain was an American hero and cherished member of The American Legion. As I'm certain you are aware, he served five and a half years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam and retired from the U.S. Navy at the rank of Captain. He then served in the U.S. Congress for more than three decades.

On the behalf of The American Legion's two million wartime veterans, I strongly urge you to make an appropriate presidential proclamation noting Senator McCain's death and legacy of service to our nation, and that our nation's flag be half-staffed through his interment.

I look forward to your response.

Denise Rohan
National Commander
The American Legion

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid1957739040943293&id183989338318281&refm_notifif_tfeed_comment
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UPDATE: Flags at White House return to half-staff in tribute to McCain (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 OP
Why wouldn't I fly the flag at half-staff? BeyondGeography Aug 2018 #1
.... BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #4
Love It . . ! Suck on that for a While, 45. America Made You Do Something . . OldManTarHeel Aug 2018 #2
he is, and ever will be, a very small person - n/t lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #3
He needs to sign a proclamation for this? bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 #5
Traditionally they do SOME type of official "Proclamation" noting the death BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #10
"I signed a proclamation..." MontanaMama Aug 2018 #6
That's because he was SUPPOSED to generate and sign one and he didn't until now. BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #13
Be clear - he did it for HIMSELF not McCain. Don't roll with his deceptions blm Aug 2018 #7
No one here or any where thinks for a second there's any sincerity in his 'note' or any ... marble falls Aug 2018 #21
I think he was sincere. Jedi Guy Aug 2018 #31
Empty noggin, empty soul. A meat puppet. marble falls Aug 2018 #34
Pretty much. Jedi Guy Aug 2018 #36
They were attracted to his fictional success as a businessman and manager. marble falls Aug 2018 #38
Yeah, but still. Jedi Guy Aug 2018 #47
He's 25 pounds of orange shit in a 5 pound bag. 47of74 Aug 2018 #44
Too generous. Jedi Guy Aug 2018 #48
not yet keroro gunsou Aug 2018 #54
I like the cut of your jib, sir/madam. Jedi Guy Aug 2018 #58
I thought flags were flown at half staff whenver a sitting member of Congress dies. rzemanfl Aug 2018 #8
But usually a proclamation is created and signed to announce that with remarks about the deceased. BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #18
Typical of Drumpf to try to get away with doing the bare minimum. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2018 #29
C'mon now, he puts in lots of effort. Jedi Guy Aug 2018 #33
You give him too much credit. He's spent twenty-five percent of his time rzemanfl Aug 2018 #37
I forgot about those! Jedi Guy Aug 2018 #45
It's easy to forget non-existent stuff. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2018 #46
Kind of like being made to say you're sorry ...and as meaningful. Solly Mack Aug 2018 #9
American Legion and other Veteran's groups publicly came out urging him to do so. Justice Aug 2018 #11
Yup - I posted their tweet in the comment section of the OP. BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #16
And then the American Legion TRASH talks Dems dailly.......... Bengus81 Aug 2018 #51
Now he will give himself credit for fixing his own faux pas. John Fante Aug 2018 #12
WEAKNESS underpants Aug 2018 #14
It doesn't help 45's cause that there's a huge American truthisfreedom Aug 2018 #15
Diaper boy got his 5 minutes of attention so he's happy now world wide wally Aug 2018 #17
That won't last long though BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #19
Where the *uck was John Kelly in all this??????? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2018 #20
Remember the stories that came out yesterday saying they TRIED and he said no? BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #23
Indeed, I saw those. Re: the flag, Kelly should've taken a stand, TheCowsCameHome Aug 2018 #32
John Kelly is a Blue Falcon keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #41
F Bolton. He has NO BUSINESS being there. underpants Aug 2018 #22
Did the proclamation say AMERICAN flag? Because this... populistdriven Aug 2018 #24
POS is trying to make it sound like awesomerwb1 Aug 2018 #25
Bet Donnie is steaming mad left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #26
Oho! It was just that simple. maddiemom Aug 2018 #27
More like he's flying the flag half-assed. C Moon Aug 2018 #28
The Vietnamese are showing more respect to McCain then Trump is .... Botany Aug 2018 #30
Have we seen the signature usaf-vet Aug 2018 #35
We all saw his smallness & his proclamation is bronxiteforever Aug 2018 #39
#Surrender Achilleaze Aug 2018 #40
BUSTED jpak Aug 2018 #42
Donald had to be browbeaten in the public eye to do the right thing. keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #43
Too little, too late. As usual. (nt) Paladin Aug 2018 #49
No, in tribute to tRump's StarryNite Aug 2018 #50
They were NEVER flown completely up! BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #52
I know he didn't want that POS at his funeral. WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2018 #53
Trump failed again. riversedge Aug 2018 #55
And this asshole has the gall to citicize NFL players over flag ettiquette Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2018 #56
And they think liberals hate the military? tinymontgomery Aug 2018 #57

OldManTarHeel

(435 posts)
2. Love It . . ! Suck on that for a While, 45. America Made You Do Something . .
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:18 PM
Aug 2018

. . that you were to classless to do on your own.

You sorry POS.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
5. He needs to sign a proclamation for this?
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:20 PM
Aug 2018

For something that common sense dictates, should have been done from day 1?

BumRushDaShow

(129,129 posts)
10. Traditionally they do SOME type of official "Proclamation" noting the death
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:25 PM
Aug 2018

He did no such thing until now.

blm

(113,065 posts)
7. Be clear - he did it for HIMSELF not McCain. Don't roll with his deceptions
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:23 PM
Aug 2018

Never give that evil being a break

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
21. No one here or any where thinks for a second there's any sincerity in his 'note' or any ...
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:42 PM
Aug 2018

moral conviction in his action. Its cynical and I might now have even less respect for him (if that is all possible) for cravenly caving in to salvage a scintilla of anyone else's respect.

Jedi Guy

(3,194 posts)
31. I think he was sincere.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:07 PM
Aug 2018

Just not in this instance. He was being sincere(ly awful) when he mocked McCain for having been a POW. That's what he really thought. The positive comments were purely for optics.

As a rule, whenever Dolt 45 says something crass, classless, vulgar, rude, boorish, hateful, or oafish, that's him being sincere.

Whenever he says something thoughtful or classy, it's because someone else actually wrote it and he's mouthing the words because he has to, for whatever reason.

He's just a wad of garbage stuffed into an ill-fitting suit, with an overlong tie hanging below the dead hamster perched on his empty noggin.

Jedi Guy

(3,194 posts)
36. Pretty much.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:14 PM
Aug 2018

I simply don't grasp why his kooky fans are so taken with him. He's a joke, but the punchline went right over their heads.

Jedi Guy

(3,194 posts)
47. Yeah, but still.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 06:19 PM
Aug 2018

I can almost forgive falling for it at the beginning. Hell, I was hoping he'd surprise us all and be halfway decent as President.

What I don't get is how they can keep supporting him after seeing him lurch from one disaster to the next. He fucks up everything he touches.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
8. I thought flags were flown at half staff whenver a sitting member of Congress dies.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:24 PM
Aug 2018

Sonny Bono for example.

On edit: I looked it up and it is "on the day of death and the day after" for members of Congress.

BumRushDaShow

(129,129 posts)
18. But usually a proclamation is created and signed to announce that with remarks about the deceased.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:38 PM
Aug 2018

But he never did it until forced to today. He apparently felt his tweeted remarks were enough.

Jedi Guy

(3,194 posts)
33. C'mon now, he puts in lots of effort.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:10 PM
Aug 2018

Why, he's spent 25% of his time in office on the golf course. He's working hard on his game, on behalf of the American people.

The other 75% he's spent working hard at being the most godawful excuse for a President the country has ever known. He gets up early and he doesn't go to bed until he's made a lot of very poor decisions.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
37. You give him too much credit. He's spent twenty-five percent of his time
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:14 PM
Aug 2018
at the golf course bone spurs, ya know.

Justice

(7,188 posts)
11. American Legion and other Veteran's groups publicly came out urging him to do so.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:26 PM
Aug 2018

That's when he finally did it.


Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
51. And then the American Legion TRASH talks Dems dailly..........
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 06:55 PM
Aug 2018

Look at what you had to do this time UNDER a Republican President........

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
12. Now he will give himself credit for fixing his own faux pas.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:27 PM
Aug 2018


The Champagne region of France had better ramp up production now. The celebrations that will erupt when Trump kicks the buck will make Rio's carnaval look tame in comparison


truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
15. It doesn't help 45's cause that there's a huge American
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:36 PM
Aug 2018

Legion convention going on this week in Minneapolis, 10,000 people.

BumRushDaShow

(129,129 posts)
19. That won't last long though
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:40 PM
Aug 2018

There is a whole week of McCain events planned in both Arizona and D.C. (and then Maryland at Annapolis), so a new temper tantrum will certainly happen.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
20. Where the *uck was John Kelly in all this???????
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:42 PM
Aug 2018

Chief Babysitter Kelly (of all people) should've been all over the decision to raise the flag back to full height.

BumRushDaShow

(129,129 posts)
23. Remember the stories that came out yesterday saying they TRIED and he said no?
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:48 PM
Aug 2018
Trump rejected plans for a White House statement praising McCain

By Josh Dawsey, White House reporter
August 26 at 8:05 PM

President Trump nixed issuing a statement that praised the heroism and life of Sen. John McCain, telling senior aides he preferred to issue a tweet before posting one Saturday night that did not include any kind words for the late Arizona Republican.

Press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Chief of Staff John F. Kelly and other White House aides advocated for an official statement that gave the decorated Vietnam War POW plaudits for his military and Senate service and called him a “hero,” according to current and former White House aides, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive internal deliberations. The original statement was drafted before McCain died Saturday, and Sanders and others edited a final version this weekend that was ready for the president, the aides said.

But Trump told aides he wanted to post a brief tweet instead, and the statement praising McCain’s life was not released.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-rejected-plans-for-a-white-house-statement-praising-mccain/2018/08/26/0d0478e4-a967-11e8-8f4b-aee063e14538_story.html


That linked article's "statement" would have been part of an official "proclamation" and he refused to do it until now.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
32. Indeed, I saw those. Re: the flag, Kelly should've taken a stand,
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:08 PM
Aug 2018

even if it cost him his day care supervisor job.

Is he a Marine, or not?

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
27. Oho! It was just that simple.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:54 PM
Aug 2018

Trump had EVERYONE talking about HIM for two days. He wedged himself right into the middle.

usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
35. Have we seen the signature
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:13 PM
Aug 2018

Knowing trump it might be signed

With a dozen bleeped words.


My message is R.I.P Senator McCain. I will always remember your thumbs down vote during an attempt to destroy Obamacare.



Hats off to you Sir!

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
39. We all saw his smallness & his proclamation is
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:22 PM
Aug 2018

marinated in insincerity and bile. He is the smallest man to be in the WH.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
43. Donald had to be browbeaten in the public eye to do the right thing.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:32 PM
Aug 2018

Donald had to be browbeaten in the public eye to do the right thing.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
52. They were NEVER flown completely up!
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 07:01 PM
Aug 2018

At least that is what Kellyanne told Chris Cuomo. Truths aren't truth, facts are alternate facts.....

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
53. I know he didn't want that POS at his funeral.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 07:14 PM
Aug 2018

I hope his family tells Mike Pence to stay home, too. I wouldn't let anyone from that entire administration anywhere near his funeral.

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