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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 08:33 AM Sep 2018

UPDATED Pence Office Pushes Back: 'The Vice President Puts His Name on His Op-Eds'

Last edited Thu Sep 6, 2018, 09:35 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: Mediate


by Ken Meyer | Sep 6th, 2018, 8:12 am

The communications director for Mike Pence is making a point of denying that the vice president is behind the anonymous New York Times op-ed denouncing Donald Trump‘s chaotic tendencies.

As people continue to guess the identity of the unknown “Senior Trump Official,” some political observers have looked at the evidence and convinced themselves that it may very well be Pence. However, Pence senior staffer Jarrod Agen is saying that idea is completely preposterous.




The anonymously-written op-ed caused a major firestorm because of what it describes about inner White House forces working to undermine and restrain the president before his “amorality” and conduct damages the country. This comes amid the intrigue over Bob Woodward‘s new bombshell-filled book, which suggested Trump’s team is frantically working to stop him from taking the country into a nosedive.

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UPDATE:

Pence, Pompeo deny they wrote anonymous op-ed slamming Trump

By CAITLIN OPRYSKO 09/06/2018 08:43 AM EDT

Vice President Mike Pence and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo are publicly denying that they are the author of an anonymous New York Times op-ed detailing a "resistance" movement inside the Trump administration, in an extraordinary demonstration of how the editorial has rattled the highest levels of government.

The editorial — which was published on Wednesday from “a senior official in the Trump administration” and accuses the president of acting “in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic" — has kicked off a wild guessing game inside the White House and out about the author’s identity.

In the hours after the remarkable rebuke of the president by one of his own, parts of the internet, searching for any clues as to who could have written the piece, latched on to the use of one word in particular: lodestar.

Some pointed out that Pence had used the fairly uncommon word in at least two speeches he delivered in 2017. But in a tweet condemning the column as “gutless,” Pence’s office denied that he wrote it, charging that “The Vice President puts his name on his Op-Eds.”

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UPDATED Pence Office Pushes Back: 'The Vice President Puts His Name on His Op-Eds' (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2018 OP
Ya but the VP cannot be fired by a petty vindictive little tyrant for voicing his opinion. cstanleytech Sep 2018 #1
Great! central scrutinizer Sep 2018 #2
Thats a big 10 - 4 buddy... Maxheader Sep 2018 #27
No one will admit to writing the op-ed while still working for the administration. LonePirate Sep 2018 #3
I.O.W. Botany Sep 2018 #4
Pence lacks the thoughtfulness and introspection of the Op-ed writer emulatorloo Sep 2018 #5
But somebody on his staff could have written it for him or with his blessing Botany Sep 2018 #6
yeah, like nick ayers Mosby Sep 2018 #12
No, it wasn't Cosmocat Sep 2018 #15
Never understood why anyone would gravitate to Pence as the source... brooklynite Sep 2018 #7
Google "Lodestar" Liberalagogo Sep 2018 #13
...and if I were a secret agent, I wouldn't give my identity away so obviously. brooklynite Sep 2018 #14
Newsflash Liberalagogo Sep 2018 #18
Personally, I think it was Miller just to shake things up. haele Sep 2018 #20
YEP Cosmocat Sep 2018 #16
BS Liberalagogo Sep 2018 #19
OK Cosmocat Sep 2018 #23
Ok Whatever Liberalagogo Sep 2018 #28
First off, I am right Cosmocat Sep 2018 #29
Jusrt whaty a smart ass would say Liberalagogo Sep 2018 #30
I agree w/ you...Pence is a suck up and unable to organize or write such a thing as the NYT's SWBTATTReg Sep 2018 #26
Sure he puts his name on his op ed... wink wink djacq Sep 2018 #8
Perhaps one person gave it to the NY Times but I think it had "many fathers"! machoneman Sep 2018 #9
So, LodeStar, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb. PubliusEnigma Sep 2018 #10
the fascists invented "ratfucking", its a GOP tradition and used it against Nixons enemies elmac Sep 2018 #11
"The anonymously-written op-ed caused a major firestorm because of what it describes..." AndJusticeForSome Sep 2018 #17
Project Lodestar truthisfreedom Sep 2018 #21
But I bet he'll be extra obsequious over the next few weeks. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #22
Pence is my first "person of interest" as the guilty party. King_Klonopin Sep 2018 #24
Was watching for the first and most vociferous denials DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #25

LonePirate

(13,428 posts)
3. No one will admit to writing the op-ed while still working for the administration.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 08:54 AM
Sep 2018

This denial rings hollow.

Cosmocat

(14,567 posts)
15. No, it wasn't
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 11:14 AM
Sep 2018

He is too smart/conniving to do it.

Whoever wrote that letter will have no future as an elected republican, and that goes double for Pence as the VP, the person next in line, will be taken as doing it for his own personal motives, generally, and more specifically for the lunatics in his voting block, purported "evangelicals" who have more loyalty to Trump than any other politician in our history.

His best shot at the Oval Office is keeping his head down, and let nature take its course and slide in as the supposed "good guy" who stayed about the shit show.

brooklynite

(94,670 posts)
7. Never understood why anyone would gravitate to Pence as the source...
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 09:09 AM
Sep 2018

If (when) the OP writer's name is revealed, his public persona in the WH will be evaluated. A suck-up like Pence secretly working to undermine the President would be seen as devious rather than patriotic.

haele

(12,665 posts)
20. Personally, I think it was Miller just to shake things up.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 01:16 PM
Sep 2018

He's the type of slime that knows everyone in the Administration uses phrasing from the same book the more successful televangelicals use, and could easily write up something to not only take the news cycle off Republican Senators looking piss-poor against the Democratic block, but can get rid of those few high level staff "roadblocks" that keep him and his fellow Nazis from just "doing it" and completely taking over the Administration using Trump as a populist battering ram while they still can.
Bannon could do it, too. He thrives on "disruptive innovation" - of burning the establishment down to rebuild something more to their liking.
Hannity - naah. That bastard is smarmy enough to have written it, but is too stupid to actually time it well enough it could give Kavanaugh some breathing room, take attention off a rare show of political aggression by the Democrats that actually might help them, and cause Trump to re-stack his staff with less "thoughtful" staff members who would be willing to just blow things up and damn the consequences.

Haele

Cosmocat

(14,567 posts)
16. YEP
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 11:15 AM
Sep 2018

It does not even read like him, at all - he is disciplined right wing talking points machine.

People are latching on to Lodestar, but nothing else fits at all.

Cosmocat

(14,567 posts)
29. First off, I am right
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:28 AM
Sep 2018

but, I fail to see how not arguing with someone further is being a smart ass.

You want to believe what you want to believe, so be it.

SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)
26. I agree w/ you...Pence is a suck up and unable to organize or write such a thing as the NYT's
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:55 PM
Sep 2018

article...we're giving Pence way too much intelligence...why do you think rump picked him? A toady, that's why and that is all Pence it, a toady.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
9. Perhaps one person gave it to the NY Times but I think it had "many fathers"!
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 09:17 AM
Sep 2018

I'll venture that 2-3 staffers or even Cabinet members (or a mix) drafted the op-ed but had only one come forward to give it to the Times.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
11. the fascists invented "ratfucking", its a GOP tradition and used it against Nixons enemies
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 09:44 AM
Sep 2018

this seems like something they would come up with to stir things up. Nice to see what goes around comes around.

AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
17. "The anonymously-written op-ed caused a major firestorm because of what it describes..."
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 11:45 AM
Sep 2018

...not because of *who* said it. (That part not in OP quote).

But thinking about it, there may have been good reason for it being anonymous, at least for a day or so, so that the "firestorm" is focused on the content rather than the author.

Although much of the focus was on the mystery of "who?", If the source had been identified, the focus may have really been off the content, and onto the author.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
24. Pence is my first "person of interest" as the guilty party.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:45 PM
Sep 2018

If you think in terms of organized crime (i.e. gangsters) he stands
to gain the most if Trump if removed from office. If he is trying to
overthrow the current Don of this cabal, he is setting it into motion.
He gets to be POTUS without being voted into office - nice deal.
Like any gangster, he sees his chance. Once in office, he has 2 years
to sway the Rep base that he is a hero.

Pence is a creepy weasel of a man. His fawning posturing around the Boss
is ingratiating. Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer.

Reason number 2: if anyone is capable of acting out fantasies that can
be described as "savior complex" or messianic self-image, this guy is the
one. He can claim that he and a few colleagues saved the nation from ruin
after the dust settles. There is obvious self-righteousness woven into that
op-ed letter. Every time I watch this story being covered on cable news,
the only person I see in my minds-eye is Pence, Pence, Pence.

This is what happens when your government is taken over by antisocial,
psychopathological miscreants.

Pence is my first guess. Mattis is my second choice. Whoever it is, this admin.
is beyond the point of dysfunctional and cowardly. Psychotic?



DeminPennswoods

(15,289 posts)
25. Was watching for the first and most vociferous denials
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:47 PM
Sep 2018

as an indicator of who is likely the source(s). Pence and Pompeo were at the top of my suspect list, and, bingo, they are also the first and loudest to say "not me".

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