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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:44 AM Oct 2018

Pence set to accuse China of interfering in U.S. policies, politics in speech

Source: CBS News



October 4, 2018, 6:46 AM

Vice President Mike Pence on Thursday plans to accuse China of trying to undermine President Donald Trump as the administration deploys tough new rhetoric over Chinese trade, economic, and foreign policies. In a speech to the Hudson Institute, Pence will say China is using its power in "more proactive and coercive ways to interfere in the domestic policies and politics of the United States."

"China wants a different American president," Pence will say, according to excerpts of prepared remarks from his office. Pence's speech comes a week after the president accused China during a meeting of the U.N. Security Council of interfering in American elections to help his Democratic rivals.

"Regrettably, we found that China has been attempting to interfere in our upcoming 2018 election," Mr. Trump said. "They do not want me, or us, to win because I am the first president ever to challenge China on trade." As proof, Mr. Trump later referenced a paid advertising insert in The Des Moines Register by Chinese government-affiliated entities in a tweet.

Pence is set to charge that China is targeting "industries and states that would play an important role in the 2018 election" as it responds to Mr. Trump's protectionist trade tariffs on China. "By one estimate, more than 80 percent of U.S. counties targeted by China voted for President Trump in 2016; now China wants to turn these voters against our administration," Pence will say.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pence-set-to-accuse-china-of-interfering-in-u-s-policies-politics-in-speech/

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Pence set to accuse China of interfering in U.S. policies, politics in speech (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2018 OP
Hey! Look over there! fountainofyouth Oct 2018 #1
Exactly! n/t CottonBear Oct 2018 #2
no, it's a precursor argument for annulling elections......... getagrip_already Oct 2018 #9
What elephant? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2018 #14
What's Wring With This? Bernie Does It All the Time? TomCADem Oct 2018 #20
Setting the narrative for suspending the election... Dave Starsky Oct 2018 #3
In 2016 Trump said he'd only accept the election results if he won. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2018 #17
Wasn't it just a few days ago Canada was a national threat? gordianot Oct 2018 #4
There's always been that faction that blames Canada for everything that's wrong in the U.S. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2018 #18
Kabuki Theater watoos Oct 2018 #5
Anything for Putin EricMaundry Oct 2018 #6
These Republicans are getting on my last nerve yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #7
Wait, I thought you guys were cool with foreign influence of US elections. eShirl Oct 2018 #8
In other words atreides1 Oct 2018 #10
They're preparing an explanation for the Blue Wave bigworld Oct 2018 #11
It was China. Yeah that's the ticket. Botany Oct 2018 #12
I's not just China Andy823 Oct 2018 #13
An excelent distraction. Turbineguy Oct 2018 #15
Interesting timing -- Bloomberg just released a story about Chinese spy chips in US servers today htuttle Oct 2018 #16
"Smells like borscht." CrispyQ Oct 2018 #21
They're trying to set up a "Democrats colluded with China" narrative Dopers_Greed Oct 2018 #19
just in time to invalidate the midterms if the Democrats win still_one Oct 2018 #22

getagrip_already

(14,752 posts)
9. no, it's a precursor argument for annulling elections.........
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:20 AM
Oct 2018

They have already leaked a strategy. It is being discussed in nut-town. They are going to challenge election losses as being interfered with by china. They will seek to not allow the results to be certified.

They will get support and cover from reichwing gov's, state houses, and ag's. With kavanaugh, scotus will back them.

For house seats, it will be a do-over. For senate seats, gop governors will pick the replacemnt. Scott will pick scott and the senate will stay gop.

It is that ugly. This isn't a joke or a distraction.

It's a strategy.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
20. What's Wring With This? Bernie Does It All the Time?
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:56 AM
Oct 2018

Isn’t scapegoating Mexico and China a bipartisan endeavor? Indeed, an strong argument can be made that the Trump administration has stolen Bernie’s trade policies:



Personally, I think we need to focus on problems with income equality and environmental degradation at home.

My take is that some on the left helped reinforce Trump’s racist and xenophobic message with racist and xenophobic messages of their own.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
3. Setting the narrative for suspending the election...
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:51 AM
Oct 2018

Or refusing to seat Democrats when their GOP opponents are thrown out of office.

Fuck them all to hell.

17. In 2016 Trump said he'd only accept the election results if he won.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:09 AM
Oct 2018

This could be an extension of that play. "The Democrat (sic) Party could only have won with Chinese help, so they don't have a legal right to be seated." Let's take that argument to a Kavanaugh SCOTUS and see how it turns out. He's definitely the wild card -- a justice who openly showed himself to be a right-wing conspiracy theorist.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
4. Wasn't it just a few days ago Canada was a national threat?
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:52 AM
Oct 2018

Someone quick needs to explain what happens to trade wars.

18. There's always been that faction that blames Canada for everything that's wrong in the U.S.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:12 AM
Oct 2018


Gawd, I miss Robin Williams.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
7. These Republicans are getting on my last nerve
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:16 AM
Oct 2018

ONE OF them or two might get us in another war, one that will go, just too far, and that's a nightmare I don't want to live in.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
10. In other words
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:48 AM
Oct 2018

That good white xtian, is going to lie and use racist rhetoric against an Asian culture...in order to scare the shit out of white people!!!!

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
13. I's not just China
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:13 AM
Oct 2018

Hell the whole world, and the vast majority of Americans want a "different president". The only ones who don't are the Russians, they like the guy the put in office!

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
16. Interesting timing -- Bloomberg just released a story about Chinese spy chips in US servers today
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:09 AM
Oct 2018
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

Amazon and Apple both vehemently denies a lot of the material in the story, however.
https://www.thestreet.com/markets/amazon-and-apple-deny-bloomberg-report-on-china-hardware-hack-14733776

Makes me wonder about the timing. Both of those companies know that getting caught hiding a vulnerability like this would very severely impact their sales, and both have reported vulnerabilities before, so they don't have a habit of doing that.

Smells weird due to the timing, and the denials from industry leaders. Smells like borscht.

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