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pstokely

(10,529 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 06:19 PM Oct 2018

Texas police confiscate political yard sign showing elephant with trunk up girl's skirt

Source: Star-Telegram

A campaign sign in Central Texas this week drew the scorn of an elected state official — and then it was confiscated by police.

At issue in the small community of Hamilton was a homemade yard sign featuring an elephant decorated in red, white and blue with its trunk up the skirt of a female saying the word “Help.” The sign said “Your vote matters.”

Other signs promoting Democrats from U.S. Senate candidate Beto O’Rourke to Agriculture Commissioner candidate Kim Olson were in the background.

This “is supposed to be Judge Kavanaugh’s young daughter,” Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller posted along with the photos on Facebook this week. “The Democrat sleaze knows NO bounds!”

Read more: https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article219551530.html

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Texas police confiscate political yard sign showing elephant with trunk up girl's skirt (Original Post) pstokely Oct 2018 OP
It is Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller... dchill Oct 2018 #1
Sue the police Gothmog Oct 2018 #2
+1 SunSeeker Oct 2018 #25
It's quite clearly a 1st Amendment Violation. djg21 Oct 2018 #47
that sign should be spread far and wide. rdking647 Oct 2018 #3
Miller proudly describes MontanaMama Oct 2018 #13
Politically protected speech bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #4
That's a future free-speech lawsuit loss right there for the government. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2018 #5
Well the police just set their department for a major 1st amendment lawsuit now. cstanleytech Oct 2018 #6
And if it moves all the way up to the Kavanaugh Kourt? Wonder how that will work out? Midnight Writer Oct 2018 #40
The police need something up their ass. LiberalFighter Oct 2018 #7
This "is supposed to be Judge Kavanaugh's young daughter," RhodeIslandOne Oct 2018 #8
It comes from vile Sid Miller!!! riversedge Oct 2018 #16
He sounds like a pervert RhodeIslandOne Oct 2018 #26
Repugs can serve the real thing, but can't take a sign. nt NCjack Oct 2018 #9
So, not only did the police stupidly set themselves up for a First Amendment lawsuit Samspadesnark Oct 2018 #10
I am not certain that is so. Perhaps even the headline riversedge Oct 2018 #17
I want one of those signs!!! skylucy Oct 2018 #11
Me too! Farmgirl1961 Oct 2018 #52
Don't we as homeowners have the right to put whatever we want on iluvtennis Oct 2018 #12
The second you join a HOA, you just signed away pretty much everything Separation Oct 2018 #22
Not Political speech dbackjon Oct 2018 #31
Unless Separation Oct 2018 #34
Even if it violates an HOA rule, that is a civil matter, not criminal Tarc Oct 2018 #35
I agree with you, you're preaching to the choir. Separation Oct 2018 #36
We have laws in Texas protecting political signs from HOAs LeftInTX Oct 2018 #38
Agree about HOA...that was case when I owned a condo. With my house, no HOA. iluvtennis Oct 2018 #39
Private property rights? MontanaMama Oct 2018 #14
Free speech? First amendment? The wannabe Nazis really need a Civics lesson. Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #18
She sad it was echoing a cartoon by Ann Telnaes of the Washington Post....... riversedge Oct 2018 #15
The date on the tweet indicates Mr.Bill Oct 2018 #19
The projection and optics Separation Oct 2018 #23
More craziness marieo1 Oct 2018 #20
October 5th, 2018. Mr.Bill Oct 2018 #21
R for rapists R for Republicans duhneece Oct 2018 #24
Kavanaugh's publicity photos of his daughters do not show them in pigtails muriel_volestrangler Oct 2018 #27
Call the ACLU - sounds like a perfect case for them. Liberty Belle Oct 2018 #28
Reminds me, I need to make a donation. Duppers Oct 2018 #32
My thoughts exactly. LisaL Oct 2018 #51
The elephant should have been painted like the Russian flag. rogue emissary Oct 2018 #29
POLITICAL SPEECH IS FREE SPEECH dbackjon Oct 2018 #30
So pointing out the truth is "sleaze" but the actual act is not. gtar100 Oct 2018 #33
Sign failed to pass Texas religious purity test. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #37
They would be celebrating it if it was a picture of Bill Clinton's hands under the dress xor Oct 2018 #45
Their hypocrisy is endless and 24/7. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #46
How do people like this sleep at night? joshcryer Oct 2018 #50
They say their Faux prayers before bedtime! KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #53
Sounds like a lawsuit to me. Vinca Oct 2018 #41
yeap, freedom of speech onetexan Oct 2018 #54
Another "How stupid are the cops? THIS stupid." story . . . MrModerate Oct 2018 #42
It's just an artist' s rendition of "Grab them by the pussy" Drahthaardogs Oct 2018 #43
It's bothersome how quickly people want to censor and silence others... xor Oct 2018 #44
I had to endure a neighbors Killary sign almost a year after the election Norbert Oct 2018 #48
My first id reaction would be to confiscate it as well. Socal31 Oct 2018 #49
... Scurrilous Oct 2018 #55

Samspadesnark

(75 posts)
10. So, not only did the police stupidly set themselves up for a First Amendment lawsuit
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 06:36 PM
Oct 2018

but now, unless a lawful zoning ordinance has been violated, these signs will be selling like hotcakes all over the United States, raising money for the dems. Only in Putin's Russia do the police get the final say over what signs you place on your own property.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
17. I am not certain that is so. Perhaps even the headline
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 06:58 PM
Oct 2018

is wrong. Not clear--for me --from the article if the police just took it or the owner asked for it to be taken.


.....Even so, Miller’s Facebook post drew attention to Stanford and her sign, prompting countless reactions, including those that called for her to be arrested.

Police did show up at her home.

Some say she was told to remove the sign or it would be confiscated. City officials said police visited Stanford’s home and she asked them to take the sign.

Either way, the sign is gone.

Read more here: https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article219551530.html#storylink=cpy

iluvtennis

(19,863 posts)
12. Don't we as homeowners have the right to put whatever we want on
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 06:38 PM
Oct 2018

Our front lawns. I know I can’t do it on the part of the front yard that is considered a public easement, but the core yard is mine as the homeowners. Enough of this big brother bullshit

Separation

(1,975 posts)
22. The second you join a HOA, you just signed away pretty much everything
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 07:25 PM
Oct 2018

Up to and including your house.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
34. Unless
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 08:44 PM
Oct 2018

Its deemed offensive by the H.O.A.

Look, I'm not saying it an offensive sign. I'm saying that H.O.A's. are known countrywide to suppress anything they deem that goes against their charter.

AFTER EDIT: I'm sure that there is a very good 1st amendment case against any HOA that would try it. I'm sure there have been cases in the past that have used the same argument. Ya just don't hear about HOA's losing that often.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
35. Even if it violates an HOA rule, that is a civil matter, not criminal
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 08:51 PM
Oct 2018

The HOA tells the homeowner to remove the sign. He refuses, they fine him, he refuses to pay, they take him to court. That should take months-to-a-year to wind through a local court. At no part in this process should law enforcement be involved.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
36. I agree with you, you're preaching to the choir.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 08:58 PM
Oct 2018

Obviously, somebody else thinks otherwise. At least here, its the police confiscating the sign (if they did vs. her just giving it to them to not have to deal with it) and if so there will be a definite 1st Amendment case.

I was responding to a person who made a comment about being able to place whatever they want in their yard, to which I countered unless they have an H.O.A. No, they can't, which I will still stand by. No matter how much I disagree with it.

LeftInTX

(25,383 posts)
38. We have laws in Texas protecting political signs from HOAs
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:00 AM
Oct 2018

I have no idea why the police were involved in this............

I can see a HOA asking a sign be removed because of the content.....they can also be removed if they are too large

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
15. She sad it was echoing a cartoon by Ann Telnaes of the Washington Post.......
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 06:50 PM
Oct 2018

And of course the Repugs made an issue of it.


Marion Stanford, who made the sign, told the Dallas Morning News she did paint it after watching Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh testify before Congress. But she said the female on the sign was not Kavanaugh’s daughter.

She sad it was echoing a cartoon by Ann Telnaes of the Washington Post.








Read more here: https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article219551530.html#storylink=cpy

Separation

(1,975 posts)
23. The projection and optics
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 07:29 PM
Oct 2018

Couldn't be clearer for anyone of us not living in bizarro world.

It's just the Trump acolytes that project that this is somehow Kavanaugh's daughter. It will piss off the acolyte base, and give them something else to cry about.

I've never seen bigger snowflakes when it comes to Trump and those that suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
20. More craziness
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 07:07 PM
Oct 2018

I thought police were actually law enforcement!!! Isn't this a country where, on your own property, you can do what you want if you are not putting other peoples lives in danger. Different laws in Texas apparently!! We are letting a nominee for the Supreme Court off the hook for sexual abuse and we also have DJT in our WH who has bragged and laughed about doing sexual things to unsuspecting women. Because of this, I think this sign was completely appropriate.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
21. October 5th, 2018.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 07:14 PM
Oct 2018

The day they started sending the police out to confiscate political signs from the opposition.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
27. Kavanaugh's publicity photos of his daughters do not show them in pigtails
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 07:39 PM
Oct 2018

so it is from the Telnaes cartoon, and not about his daughters.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
32. Reminds me, I need to make a donation.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 08:34 PM
Oct 2018

They're going to have to hire more attorneys to carry these caseloads.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
30. POLITICAL SPEECH IS FREE SPEECH
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 08:28 PM
Oct 2018

Lock every single one of those fuckers up in jail, and never let them out.


gtar100

(4,192 posts)
33. So pointing out the truth is "sleaze" but the actual act is not.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 08:40 PM
Oct 2018

Tragic how republicans live with their heads up their own asses. I know both sides go tit-for-tat with insults but I cannot fathom how they can justify some of the things they defend - sexual predators, greed, prejudice, fear...tRump. My sympathies to everyone who has to live in republican-infested areas. Their stupidity is their own damn fault.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
37. Sign failed to pass Texas religious purity test.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 09:21 PM
Oct 2018

Quote from Miller:

“I’m glad that I called out this offensive campaign sign and am pleased that hundreds of others did so as well,” he said. “It’s vulgar and just plain wrong and it had no place in someone’s yard visible from the street.

Sanctimonious asshole. If it had been a caricature of tRump with his hand up a girl's dress, it would have been celebrated......

Sounds pretty evangelical and anti-American to me.....

xor

(1,204 posts)
45. They would be celebrating it if it was a picture of Bill Clinton's hands under the dress
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:54 PM
Oct 2018

They are allowed to do stuff like that, but not the other way around. Just to be clear, if someone made similar picture of a donkey or Clinton/Obama/Any democrat, then I would have the same opinion about their right to post such sign. This isn't a graphic sign.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
46. Their hypocrisy is endless and 24/7.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:35 PM
Oct 2018

The best example is non-stop lies and deception throughout their media, speeches and campaign propaganda.

Yet, they claim attachment to - and support from - a large number of churches in the US where lying is supposed to be a sin.

.....

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
43. It's just an artist' s rendition of "Grab them by the pussy"
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:41 PM
Oct 2018

GOP can't be offended. They're okay with that shit, right?

Fucking hypocrites they are...

xor

(1,204 posts)
44. It's bothersome how quickly people want to censor and silence others...
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:51 PM
Oct 2018

People calling for the person who made it to be arrested? Like wtf is going through their heads? These are the same folks who get upset over "political correctness gone amok", but here they are taking things to the extreme themselves. Fascinating.

Norbert

(6,040 posts)
48. I had to endure a neighbors Killary sign almost a year after the election
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 08:12 AM
Oct 2018

but this lady's sign is offensive.

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