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diva77

(7,643 posts)
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:51 PM Oct 2018

Georgia's Kemp Purged 340,134 Voters, Falsely Asserting They Had Moved

Last edited Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:39 PM - Edit history (3)

Source: Truthout.org

By Greg Palast Oct. 26, 2018

Last year, Brian Kemp, Georgia's secretary of state canceled the registrations of over half a million Georgians because they left the state or moved to another county. Except they didn't. The nation's top experts in address location reviewed Kemp's list of purged voters -- and returned the names and addresses of 340,134 who never moved at all.

John Lenser, CEO of CohereOne of San Rafael, California, led the team analyzing the purge list. He concluded, "340,000 of those voters remained at their original address. They should have never been removed from the voter registration rolls."

SNIP

The experts ran the names through an "advanced address hygiene process," that is, digging through dozens -- up to 200 -- dynamically updated databases (such as cell phone bills and tax filings), as well as limited-access files at the post office, to get the location of voters. They accomplished this with astonishing accuracy -- something the state of Georgia should have done.

The result: GregPalast.com has a list of 340,134 voters who never moved an inch. Kemp has sent them no notice -- none -- but they have lost their right to vote.

SNIP

Read more: https://truthout.org/articles/georgias-kemp-purged-340134-voters-falsely-asserting-they-had-moved/



another corrupt rethug elections official

Visit https://www.gregpalast.com/ to learn about lawsuits regarding this matter and mass voter purges in other states

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pdf of lawsuit here:

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/palast-v-kemp.pdf
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Georgia's Kemp Purged 340,134 Voters, Falsely Asserting They Had Moved (Original Post) diva77 Oct 2018 OP
Can this be corrected before election day? Adsos Letter Oct 2018 #1
Greg Palast has filed a lawsuit - quick explanation here: diva77 Oct 2018 #10
Thank you. Adsos Letter Oct 2018 #15
pdf of actual lawsuit here: diva77 Oct 2018 #17
His purge list says "You won't be able to vote in november." WTF??? lindysalsagal Oct 2018 #60
Why isn't depriving a person's of their right to vote a felony. Lock him up! olegramps Oct 2018 #30
was wondering the same thing vlyons Oct 2018 #43
Those voters can and should MarvinGardens Oct 2018 #37
Provisional ballots don't always get counted. watoos Oct 2018 #40
Yep...don't EVER vote provisional thinking your vote counts.......... Bengus81 Oct 2018 #64
As I understand this situation trc Oct 2018 #42
That's heart breaking JustAnotherGen Oct 2018 #2
I think they can request a provisional ballot. Then they can force the state to prove THEIR case. 7962 Oct 2018 #21
Mind boggling. Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #3
Not "on the take" SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #4
I guess I have a different understanding of the vernacular -- diva77 Oct 2018 #5
Strictly speaking it's not inaccurate, but in the common vernacular it involves 'taking' from ... mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #12
aha - thanks for clarifying and thanks to SCantiGOP for pointing out my error in the first place diva77 Oct 2018 #14
Wasn't trying to argue SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #18
How the GOPeePee wins elections not fooled Oct 2018 #6
And never being punished for it by anyone FiveGoodMen Oct 2018 #45
Democrats must request election be suspended Haynx Oct 2018 #7
I agree watoos Oct 2018 #41
DAMN right!! Saying it'll all be "fixed" next time ISN'T good enough......... Bengus81 Oct 2018 #62
I'm hoping this is all bluestarone Oct 2018 #8
"The experts ran the names through an "advanced address hygiene process" BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #9
You have it backwards, the experts ran the "advanced address hygiene process" to grantcart Oct 2018 #38
Thanks for the clarifying correction! BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #46
This is why THE FIRST THING WHEN WE GAIN POWER is to write bulletproof election laws with HUGE BamaRefugee Oct 2018 #11
Absolutely. DavidDvorkin Oct 2018 #13
Something needs to be done about this issue in GA now. Once the vote takes place... Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #27
And who's going to stop him? THis is why we need FEDERAL LAWS FOR FEDERAL ELECTIONS that will put BamaRefugee Oct 2018 #28
The ACLU, the Democratic Party. I don't know who else. Injunction to stop it, first. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #29
Brian Kemp is giving Kris Kobach a run for his money for the title of worst human being in America. StevieM Oct 2018 #16
Brian. But your point remains! 7962 Oct 2018 #22
LOL, good catch. I have baseball on my mind these days. Matt Kemp plays for the Dodgers. (eom) StevieM Oct 2018 #23
Nope Andy823 Oct 2018 #50
If you like Trump, you'll love Kris Kobach. He hates democracy like no one else I have ever seen. StevieM Oct 2018 #54
Kemp deserves a day in federal jail for every voter he wrongly purged DFW Oct 2018 #19
+1 dalton99a Oct 2018 #48
Republicans must cheat to win. By themselves or with foreign help, like Russians. TeamPooka Oct 2018 #20
Give the 340,134 votes to Abrams! fierywoman Oct 2018 #24
What are the Dems in GA going to do about it? This is unbelievable. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #25
can he be indicted? sounds criminal to me AlexSFCA Oct 2018 #26
Brian Kemp: Democracy's Finest Blue Owl Oct 2018 #31
These people of that party is truly the lowest of the low. Basement Beat Oct 2018 #32
When does Kemp's action cross the line from his job rogue emissary Oct 2018 #33
I vote Georgia voters get smart and do not vote for Kemp. That would be a disaster. riversedge Oct 2018 #34
ReThug voters view this as all part of the game robbob Oct 2018 #35
I think you meant to say "hope" Georgia voters get smart. And Kemp, like Kris Kobach, is terrifying. StevieM Oct 2018 #59
Why isn't DOJ all over this ? Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #36
Why isn't DOJ all over this? LenaBaby61 Oct 2018 #52
Yes .re sessions ...but this is so blatant. Have we Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #55
It pains me to see jopkers like this in the government. skip fox Oct 2018 #39
fuck kemp. Kurt V. Oct 2018 #44
Any denial of voting privilege should be jail time for that person/or group/committee/commission leanforward Oct 2018 #47
If you can't vote, you should not have safeinOhio Oct 2018 #49
Maybe SoS should be a one-term position, and they should be barred Qutzupalotl Oct 2018 #51
The higher you go in politics, the more dirt you collect on those beneath you. libdem4life Oct 2018 #53
340,134 is a lot less than half a million. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2018 #56
So what? mahina Oct 2018 #57
I like what the Daily show guy said about this Flash953 Oct 2018 #58
I just emailed my dem senator from another state to yell and scream and allow them to vote. lindysalsagal Oct 2018 #61
That junk mail looking postcard is BS........ Bengus81 Oct 2018 #63

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
60. His purge list says "You won't be able to vote in november." WTF???
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:43 AM
Oct 2018
If you are on the list, contact us
AND check your registration IMMEDIATELY!
If your registration is ‘active’ GREAT.
If you’re not registered, you should absolutely re-register right now.
Although this won’t allow you to vote in November, it will ensure that you will be able to vote in 2020.
We cannot expose the practice of mass cancellation of voting rights in Georgia without your help. Know anyone in Georgia?


Georgians are chasing their tails. What's stopping them from constantly removing voters on a revolving basis????

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
43. was wondering the same thing
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 05:23 PM
Oct 2018

surely there is some law against this. Malfeasance in office at the least

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
37. Those voters can and should
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:50 PM
Oct 2018

go to their regular polling place and if indeed they are purged, demand to vote a provisional ballot.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
64. Yep...don't EVER vote provisional thinking your vote counts..........
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 07:49 AM
Oct 2018

I saw that in action in Kansas in the primary against KKKobach and Gov Coyler. The vote count was extremely close so they decided to break out all the provisional ballots they had NEVER counted.

If one or the other candidate would have been up by 10,000 votes or so those provisional ballots would have NEVER been looked at.

trc

(823 posts)
42. As I understand this situation
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 05:21 PM
Oct 2018

They can't vote provisional or at all because they were completely deleted from the voter rolls. If they show up to vote they will be treated as if they were out of state unregistered voters and be denied their vote.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
2. That's heart breaking
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:54 PM
Oct 2018

So they absolutely cannot vote on election day? What a kick in the teeth. I've really wanted Ms. Abrams to win. She's just sensational. And yet - not only does she get cheated - but so do the voters.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
21. I think they can request a provisional ballot. Then they can force the state to prove THEIR case.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:40 PM
Oct 2018

At least I think that's been decided by a judge recently.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
3. Mind boggling.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:54 PM
Oct 2018

Imagine what they did in 2016 when everyone was semi lulled. They are under a microscope now. Why wouldn't they re-count MI and Penn? Shenanigans. Don't golf or play cards w repubs...they have already justified any guilt they have to do it . And they'll probably cheat you too.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
4. Not "on the take"
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:56 PM
Oct 2018

He is doing it for himself. He is the GOP candidate for Governor in a race that is 50/50.

diva77

(7,643 posts)
5. I guess I have a different understanding of the vernacular --
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:00 PM
Oct 2018

I found this: on the take meaning: trying to profit in a personal and usually financial way from a situation

from the Cambridge English Dictionary

I agree, 100% with you -- he is trying to get himself elected. But he is also connected to all the rethug thuggery.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. Strictly speaking it's not inaccurate, but in the common vernacular it involves 'taking' from ...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:19 PM
Oct 2018

someone else.

Generally, that'd be someone in a position of authority taking money ... in exchange for a benefit to the person who gave it to them.

Such as a corrupt prosecutor taking bribes from a Mob boss to reduce charges on one of their underlings who's been arrested, that sort of thing.

diva77

(7,643 posts)
14. aha - thanks for clarifying and thanks to SCantiGOP for pointing out my error in the first place
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:21 PM
Oct 2018


(I edited my OP to remove the error)
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
41. I agree
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 05:14 PM
Oct 2018

the only fix is to suspend the election. Those thousands of people who were purged should block the doors, chain themselves, to polling places.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
62. DAMN right!! Saying it'll all be "fixed" next time ISN'T good enough.........
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 07:43 AM
Oct 2018

That election should be STOPPED until those who should be on the voting rolls are put back on. This GD SHIT has to stop!!

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
38. You have it backwards, the experts ran the "advanced address hygiene process" to
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 05:08 PM
Oct 2018

verify that 300K in fact hadn't moved but were at their existing address.

Had the GA SOS ran the same process they would have found that there was no reason to remove them.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
11. This is why THE FIRST THING WHEN WE GAIN POWER is to write bulletproof election laws with HUGE
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:19 PM
Oct 2018

penalties! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS AS MUCH, the will of the people trumps anything else, without guaranteed ACCURATE voting, we will never have the actual majorities needed to get everything else done.

Penalties must include MANDATORY Federal Prison sentences for anyone tampering with the vote!

Once that is secured, we can move ahead, but without it, we'll never actually achieve anything.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
27. Something needs to be done about this issue in GA now. Once the vote takes place...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:56 PM
Oct 2018

it'll be hard to THEN have those voters vote. He's illegally taking away citizens' right to vote.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
28. And who's going to stop him? THis is why we need FEDERAL LAWS FOR FEDERAL ELECTIONS that will put
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:00 PM
Oct 2018

fraudulent vote manipulators UNDER the jail!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. The ACLU, the Democratic Party. I don't know who else. Injunction to stop it, first.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:02 PM
Oct 2018

Then lawsuit to reinstate the registrations.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
16. Brian Kemp is giving Kris Kobach a run for his money for the title of worst human being in America.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:28 PM
Oct 2018

eom

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
23. LOL, good catch. I have baseball on my mind these days. Matt Kemp plays for the Dodgers. (eom)
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:44 PM
Oct 2018

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
54. If you like Trump, you'll love Kris Kobach. He hates democracy like no one else I have ever seen.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 07:25 PM
Oct 2018

eom

DFW

(54,397 posts)
19. Kemp deserves a day in federal jail for every voter he wrongly purged
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:36 PM
Oct 2018

Preferably one in a miserable climate with lots of people of the kind he tried to purge.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. What are the Dems in GA going to do about it? This is unbelievable.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:55 PM
Oct 2018

Kemp should be criminally charged.

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
33. When does Kemp's action cross the line from his job
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:19 PM
Oct 2018

To just miss use of a public office?

This is going far beyond being overzealous in purging voters.

robbob

(3,531 posts)
35. ReThug voters view this as all part of the game
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:34 PM
Oct 2018

A “game” they must win at all cost. Hell, a significant percent of them probably don’t think minorities should even HAVE the right to vote...

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
59. I think you meant to say "hope" Georgia voters get smart. And Kemp, like Kris Kobach, is terrifying.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 01:35 AM
Oct 2018

It scares me to think that one of these guys could be president some day.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
52. Why isn't DOJ all over this?
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 07:13 PM
Oct 2018

Racist beauguard, caring if black folks vote?

IF the voting was on the up and up in Georgia, Stacey Abrams would have a great chance to win the governorship. But with thuglican Kemp she's running against purging Dems off of voter rolls with perfect match, with him playing hide and go seek with Dem registrations/ballots, I don't think she can overcome all of that cheating. I mean, the over 850,000 voters have already been removed off of the voting rolls due to:

GEORGIA’S ‘USE IT OR LOSE IT’ VOTER PURGE FORCED MORE THAN 850,000 ELIGIBLE VOTERS OFF THE ROLLS.

https://www.letamericavote.org/news/blog/2018/georgias-use-it-or-lose-it-voter-purge-forced-more-than-850000-eligible-voters-off-the-rolls/

And Stacey's still hanging tough vs that racist, cheating pig, in Georgia. Okay, add those removed votes ☝🏻 (Mostly Dem/AA votes of course) plus the 107,000 THOUSAND Dem votes Kemp removed off of wherever, that's almost 1 million votes Kemp was able to get rid of, mostly for Stacey no doubt. He KNOWS he'd probably lose in a fair election. A few days ago a judge ordered Georgia officials (Kemp) to stop rejecting absentee ballots without letting voters fix them first so that they CAN be counted before Nov. 6th.

Lord have mercy, that racist, cheating, thuglican Kemp has something else up his crooked sleeve before Nov. 6th🙄

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
55. Yes .re sessions ...but this is so blatant. Have we
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 07:50 PM
Oct 2018

no recourse against DOJ?

And throw in TX. Machines showing Cruz when u pick straight Dem. Yet supposedly doing it the other way too.

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
39. It pains me to see jopkers like this in the government.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 05:10 PM
Oct 2018

The lowest government employee would be fired and many charged for taking a gift of any value, taking part in a decision which may effect them fictionally or professionally, etc. etc.

I finished my yearly ethics training yesterday for the State of Louisiana (I'm a prof. at a state univ.) and I was amazed to once again realized what crooked politicians like Trump, Kemp, and Kobach, get away with.

These are state and federal laws. Why are they only applied to the middle and lower rank of government officials and employees?

Is it dependent on the power of the crook? If so state and federal prosecutors are responsible for this criminality to become the norm for the strongest, especially Republicans. (When did we last see, after Chicago's Mayor Richard J. Daily of the 50's through 70's. such obvious corruption and illegality?)

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
47. Any denial of voting privilege should be jail time for that person/or group/committee/commission
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 06:41 PM
Oct 2018

Abuse of power can be for any number of purposes. To me, it is a white collar crime.

Anyone abusing a circumstance or to stack the deck in favor of the abuser/corporation should spend time in prison.

We had challenges back in 2007 and 2008. There were abuses and losers as a result poor judgement.

Iceland had a similar problem. The leaders (white collars) of those bank have gone to jail. I don't remember about fines in Iceland.

I don't think our white collar criminals went to jail. My point, is anyone abusing their elected/appointed power should go to jail. No bargaining.

safeinOhio

(32,685 posts)
49. If you can't vote, you should not have
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 06:43 PM
Oct 2018

to pay state and local taxes for 4 years after denied. Then republicans would beg to be denied.

No taxation without representation.

Qutzupalotl

(14,313 posts)
51. Maybe SoS should be a one-term position, and they should be barred
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 07:12 PM
Oct 2018

from running for any office while SoS. No one should be in charge of an election while standing as a candidate in that same election. That’s an inherent conflict of interest.

If only the left had an ALEC, we could introduce this in every state, starting with Georgia and Kansas.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
53. The higher you go in politics, the more dirt you collect on those beneath you.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 07:20 PM
Oct 2018

That's how the "political" ladder is climbed. The more honest one is, the quicker one is purged. It's not being cynic...it's what is.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
56. 340,134 is a lot less than half a million.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:06 PM
Oct 2018

Not that purging voters claiming they'd moved when they hadn't is better because fewer were purged, but still. Don't be careless with numbers. As my college math teacher used to say: Numbers are your friends.

mahina

(17,663 posts)
57. So what?
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:42 PM
Oct 2018

I mean it’s obviously outrageous, un-American, should see him in prison fir a looong time. But what are we going to do about it?

Who are we waiting for to tell us what the hell to do?

Flash953

(85 posts)
58. I like what the Daily show guy said about this
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 12:12 AM
Oct 2018


The Daily show guy suggested that African Americans should register as Republicans then they wouldn't have all the problems with voter ID and what not. GOPers would be courting them into the ballot boxes. Once your in there you can do what you want.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
61. I just emailed my dem senator from another state to yell and scream and allow them to vote.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:55 AM
Oct 2018

Demand democracy. Dammit!!! Email your reps!!!

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
63. That junk mail looking postcard is BS........
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 07:46 AM
Oct 2018

You have the RIGHT as a legal citizen to VOTE in this Country. NO ONE should be able to send you some phony junk mail looking postcard stating YOU have to send this back or be scrubbed from voting.

That card in itself is Unconstitutional...but that's why the CONS want to load the SC with their "activist" Judges.

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