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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 12:53 PM Jan 2019

Trump denies knowledge of Manafort's correspondence with Russian associate

Source: Politico


By MATTHEW CHOI 01/10/2019 11:17 AM EST

President Donald Trump on Thursday denied any knowledge of his former campaign chairman's sharing of polling data with a Moscow-linked associate, distancing himself from a possible tie to the Russian government during the 2016 presidential election.

Attorneys for former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort accidentally revealed in a court filing unsealed Tuesday that their client shared 2016 polling data and discussed a peace plan for Ukraine with Konstantin V. Kilimnik, a business associate of Manafort's with ties to the Russian government. The filing was in response to a charge by special counsel Robert Mueller's team that Manafort lied during Mueller's investigation into the 2016 election.

The correspondence with Kilimnik, which was unknown before the court filing was revealed Tuesday, could offer a path for Mueller to establish coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign to swing the election in the president's favor. Trump has denied there was collusion between his campaign and the Kremlin.

Several operatives with Russian ties have already been reported to have penetrated Trump's 2016 circle, including a meeting between members of Trump's team and a Russian lawyer promising Kremlin-sourced damaging information on Hillary Clinton. But the correspondence between Manafort and Kilimnik is seen by many as perhaps the closest suggestion to date of active coordination with Russia. Still, Mueller has yet to publicly establish that Trump himself had any knowledge of the correspondence or that he coordinated with Russian operatives.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/10/trump-denies-knowlege-manafort-correspondence-1094845

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Trump denies knowledge of Manafort's correspondence with Russian associate (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
Manafort who? Never heard of him. Is he a coffee boy? nt Xipe Totec Jan 2019 #1
Trump better hope that Mueller doesn't have any watoos Jan 2019 #2
I have often wondered why the Mercer family is not mentioned more Vinnie From Indy Jan 2019 #5
It's not their time yet. I think they will deal with the government portion of GemDigger Jan 2019 #17
Trump. Tower. Server. Zoonart Jan 2019 #12
It only takes 5 seconds w/the google to prove this false Botany Jan 2019 #3
Pay wall Izzy Blue Jan 2019 #7
No mention of Gates in that article but we do have this Trump quote from Feb. 2017. Botany Jan 2019 #10
Thanks! I found it. Izzy Blue Jan 2019 #15
Steve Schmidt: "There is no way the Russians could utilize the voter file without fairly ... Botany Jan 2019 #20
Of course. Anyhow, Manafort was just a volunteer who brought coffee and doughnuts The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #4
And he (Manafort) would work for free too. Botany Jan 2019 #8
For being the smartest man in the world, tRump admits to not knowing anything a lot... PeeJ52 Jan 2019 #6
Denies? Probably means he was in the thick of it. Like he denied letter denying Tower meeting. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #9
Nixon denied knowing about the Watergate break-in too YessirAtsaFact Jan 2019 #11
Amazing that Donny Dollhands was known as a HUGE micromanager his entire life NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #13
Trump & company know nothing. Botany Jan 2019 #14
When the denial (lie) is proven false, will that lie mean LEGAL trouble, or just public humiliation? NurseJackie Jan 2019 #16
No....You'd have to ask Michael Cohen. Michael's he's my... he's my lawyer" JDC Jan 2019 #18
Breaking: Mueller interviewed Trump camapign private pollster Izzy Blue Jan 2019 #19
Let him tell that to Mueller OR the DEM. house bluestarone Jan 2019 #21
Trump lies Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #22
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
2. Trump better hope that Mueller doesn't have any
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 12:58 PM
Jan 2019

intercepts of communication between Trump Tower and Alfa bank.

The Mercers need to go to jail over this also.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
17. It's not their time yet. I think they will deal with the government portion of
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:38 PM
Jan 2019

helping the Russians first and then all the money bags that helped the Russians after we have the government dealt with. Just my thoughts.

Botany

(70,539 posts)
10. No mention of Gates in that article but we do have this Trump quote from Feb. 2017.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:11 PM
Jan 2019

"Now, Manafort has totally denied it. He denied it. Now people knew that he was a consultant over in
that part of the world for a while, but not for Russia. I think he represented Ukraine or people having
to do with Ukraine, or people that -- whoever. But people knew that. Everybody knew that."

******

The Ukrainian people that Manfort worked with were all known as pro Putin people.

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
15. Thanks! I found it.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:23 PM
Jan 2019

Gates could be the one who knows if Trump knew and curious if the campaign's private polling firm involves the sleaze Brad Parscale?


"Both Mr. Manafort and Rick Gates, the deputy campaign manager, transferred the data to Mr. Kilimnik in the spring of 2016 as Mr. Trump clinched the Republican presidential nomination, according to a person knowledgeable about the situation. Most of the data was public, but some of it was developed by a private polling firm working for the campaign, according to the person.

Mr. Manafort asked Mr. Gates to tell Mr. Kilimnik to pass the data to two Ukrainian oligarchs, Serhiy Lyovochkin and Rinat Akhmetov, the person said. The oligarchs had financed Russian-aligned Ukrainian political parties that had hired Mr. Manafort as a political consultant.

A representative for Mr. Akhmetov said he did not request or receive any data from Mr. Kilimnik and has had no contact with either Mr. Kilimnik or Mr. Manafort since before the 2016 presidential campaign. Mr. Lyovochkin did not respond to a request for comment."


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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/manafort-trump-campaign-data-kilimnik.html?pgtype=Homepage

Botany

(70,539 posts)
20. Steve Schmidt: "There is no way the Russians could utilize the voter file without fairly ...
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 02:34 PM
Jan 2019

... consistent contact and guidance from the campaign."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211647066

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,782 posts)
4. Of course. Anyhow, Manafort was just a volunteer who brought coffee and doughnuts
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jan 2019

to a couple of meetings. Didn't know the guy.

Botany

(70,539 posts)
8. And he (Manafort) would work for free too.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:06 PM
Jan 2019

On the link @ my post Trump admitted to knowing about Manafort and the Ukraine
during the campaign.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
6. For being the smartest man in the world, tRump admits to not knowing anything a lot...
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jan 2019

that's usually the first thing he says... I don't know anything about that...

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
11. Nixon denied knowing about the Watergate break-in too
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:11 PM
Jan 2019

Trump’s denials are going to be fun to watch. Between he and Ghouliani, the goalposts will be dancing the polka.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
13. Amazing that Donny Dollhands was known as a HUGE micromanager his entire life
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:15 PM
Jan 2019

but, was suddenly hands off starting when he ran for president at 69 years of age.

Seems legit.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. When the denial (lie) is proven false, will that lie mean LEGAL trouble, or just public humiliation?
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:38 PM
Jan 2019

Yeah... I know... I realized the silliness of what I wrote after I added the question-mark. They have no pride, no decency and cannot be humiliated.

But, I still wonder... are these types of public and "official" declarations (when false) likely to land him in legal hot-water?

JDC

(10,130 posts)
18. No....You'd have to ask Michael Cohen. Michael's he's my... he's my lawyer"
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:42 PM
Jan 2019

this guy's lies never improve. For someone that lies so often and easily, he sure is bad at it.

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
19. Breaking: Mueller interviewed Trump camapign private pollster
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 02:12 PM
Jan 2019

Tony Fabrizio

"Campaign for President: The Managers Look at 2016"

snip:


"Representatives from the Trump and Clinton campaigns joined together to discuss the general election. The roundtable was moderated by Dan Balz of The Washington Post, Katherine Miller of Buzzfeed, and Andrea Mitchell of MSNBC."


Participants

Clinton: Robby Mook, Mandy Grunwald, Teddy Goff, Karen Finney, Jennifer Palmieri, Joel Benenson

Trump: Kellyanne Conway, David Bossie, Tony Fabrizio, Brad Parscale, Corey Lewandowski



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