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trailmonkee

(2,681 posts)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:48 AM Sep 2012

Spoiler alert: Poll finds small following for Libertarian candidate

Source: cnn

Washington (CNN) – Gary Johnson's poll numbers may not give him much-of-a shot at winning the presidency, but in the latest CNN/ORC Poll, he is registering enough of a following to possibly tip the balance in an increasingly close election.

Three percent of likely voters responded that they would vote for Johnson, the Libertarian Party's candidate for president, in November. That number is slightly higher among registered voters, with 4% identifying with the former governor of New Mexico.


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Obama leads Romney 52% to 46% when Romney and Obama are the only candidates in question, but Romney's support goes down three percentage points with the inclusion of the third party candidates. Obama's support only drops one point.

"The inclusion of the two minor-party candidates turns a six-point margin for President Obama into an eight-point lead," said Keating Holland, CNN's Polling Director. Since third party candidates are typically not on the ballot in all 50 states, those numbers can be slight deceiving when relating them to the support the candidates will receive on Election Day.

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Johnson is rarely included in national polls, something the Johnson campaign has long complained about.

"Our issue is that polls become self-fulfilling," said Hunter, before the latest poll numbers came out. Hunter went on to say that even if a poll shows only a small following, they create a conversation about the candidate and increase the campaign's profile.


Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/10/spoiler-alert-poll-finds-small-following-for-libertarian-candidate/



the long and short of it; Obama has a bigger lead than we can tell from the polling since the Libertarian candidate is not being polled as well... include Johnson and we would have something more along the lines of Obama 51%, Romney 43%, Johnson 4%.
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Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
1. The Paulbots are flocking to Johnson.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:53 AM
Sep 2012

That's going to hold Romney's numbers down in states where Paul has a big following, and might even impact downticket races if the Ron Paul Republicans stay home.

#ObFuckRonPaul

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. Yep. One of my best friends from high school in Georgia is voting for him.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:54 AM
Sep 2012

He's a gun totin' Paulbot.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
5. My Paulbot neighbor across the street
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:26 AM
Sep 2012

still has his sign up as of yesterday.

I think he's going to go to Gary too. I'll even encourage him to make sure Colorado is a lock for Obama.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
8. Johnson hurts Obama more than he hurts Romney in Colorado
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:05 PM
Sep 2012

When you add him to the mix, Obama loses three votes for every two Romney loses, according to a Public Policy Polling survey last week.

I think it's the marijuana issue that is giving Johnson an opening there.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
9. Yup, the parking lot at the gym I go to is full of Paul and Johnson bumper stickers, some w/ both on
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:18 PM
Sep 2012

the same car.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
2. angry Tea Partiers will protest Romney and pat themselves on the back
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:54 AM
Sep 2012

and then the day after the election will say 'uh, wait a minute... I see what I did there....'

I know of 3 former Newt backers that are going to protest vote against Romney - and frankly, he's earned it

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
6. "increasingly close"? 52 to 46 is not close and the gap has been widening, not narrowing.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:41 AM
Sep 2012

Weeks and debates to go, and there is always the important downticket House, Senate, and State races.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
7. Obama only loses 1% with Johnson in the race
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:55 AM
Sep 2012

while Romney loses 3%? Yeah, the Obama supporters of 2008 have really been jumping ship.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
10. I guess you and I take different lessons from this story.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:41 PM
Sep 2012

I think the main thing it demonstrates is how fucked up and flawed our democracy is, no thanks to the mass media. If there's ever a candidate who keeps one person/party from getting an absolute majority, it's evidence that our democracy is seriously flawed. I'd love to see the Democratic party, or at least some of its major figures, take up the call for instant runoff voting again.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
11. Romney and the GOP will be sorry they trashed these voters at the convention
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 05:20 PM
Sep 2012

Say what you want about Ron Paul but he had an amazing ground campaign of loyal supporters and connected with the youth. The GOP completely threw that away and went with the aging social conservative nuts, who are the shrinking part of the party.

So Romney thinks he's going to get votes by parading around with Pat Robertson? Are you kidding me??? Does the GOP pay any attention to the changing demographics of the country? They are playing this game as if it is still the 80s.

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