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Initech

(100,097 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:00 PM Jan 2019

'Empire' star hospitalized after possible homophobic attack in Chicago

Last edited Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Fox 5 New York

"Empire" star Jussie Smollett was brutally attacked by two men who beat him up, put his head in a noose and screamed, "This is MAGA country," TMZ is reporting.

Sources directly connected to Smollett tell TMZ, the actor arrived in Chicago from New York late Monday, and at around 2 a.m. he was hungry and went to a Subway. TMZ was told when he walked out, someone yelled, "Aren't you that f***ot 'Empire' n*****?"

The two men -- both white and wearing ski masks -- viciously attacked Smollett as he fought back, but they beat him badly and fractured a rib. They put a rope around his neck, poured bleach on him and as they left they yelled, "This is MAGA country."

Smollett was taken to Northwestern Memorial where he was treated. He was discharged later Tuesday morning.

Chicago Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi released this statement about the attack: "Overnight, the Chicago Police Department received a report of a possible racially-charged assault and battery involving a cast member of the television show Empire. Given the severity of the allegations, we are taking this investigation very seriously and treating it as a possible hate crime. Detectives are currently working to gather video, identify potential witnesses and establish an investigative timeline. T

Read more: http://www.fox5ny.com/entertainment/tmz-empire-star-hospitalized-after-possible-homophobic-attack-in-chicago



Sigh... more Trump inspired terrorism.
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'Empire' star hospitalized after possible homophobic attack in Chicago (Original Post) Initech Jan 2019 OP
What, the thugs just happened to have masks and a rope with them? Achilleaze Jan 2019 #1
They must be into that sort of thing. Initech Jan 2019 #3
Out there looking to impress "dear leader." nt Ilsa Jan 2019 #6
According to a gossip site, he recieved this threat earlier: demmiblue Jan 2019 #13
I wonder how they would know unless they were stalking him? Initech Jan 2019 #23
Looks like it was premediated dbackjon Jan 2019 #17
I think you mean premeditated... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #44
Premedication might have stopped it, too. marble falls Jan 2019 #60
"Economic anxieties" strike again Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #21
And bleach, and just happened to ambush him leaving a Subway at 2am? Anon-C Jan 2019 #38
And a jug of bleach? Harker Jan 2019 #42
To bleach him white? generalbetrayus Jan 2019 #48
That crossed my mind as a really sick possibility. n/t Harker Jan 2019 #51
again, idiots making themselves judge , jury and excoutioner. AllaN01Bear Jan 2019 #2
Yikes! Freethinker65 Jan 2019 #4
Very scary dbackjon Jan 2019 #5
I'm not that surprised unfortunately ZeroSomeBrains Jan 2019 #7
The sad thing is Trump could denounce this shit. Initech Jan 2019 #10
He never will denounce these types ZeroSomeBrains Jan 2019 #15
Hell no thegoose Jan 2019 #36
Gee, Cold War Spook Jan 2019 #41
trump's thugs strike again. mwb970 Jan 2019 #8
Fox NY SoCalNative Jan 2019 #9
Bleach, rope, ski masks at 2 am at Subway? jaysunb Jan 2019 #11
You can store a lot of crap in a rusted out '57 Chevy. Initech Jan 2019 #12
Yeah, they were awfully prepared for a random maga nutjob hit. Calista241 Jan 2019 #14
It was premeditated dbackjon Jan 2019 #19
It's sorta believable, but i still have questions. Calista241 Jan 2019 #47
Nooses maybe. But it's very cold in Chicago-- dawg day Jan 2019 #56
Premeditated or not, I have a baraclava and plenty of rope in my car. And I've been know to stop ... marble falls Jan 2019 #61
He had received threatening letters dbackjon Jan 2019 #18
I didnt want to be the first to notice that. oldsoftie Jan 2019 #25
And another dbackjon Jan 2019 #31
Pointing out glaring oddities in a reported crime isnt unreasonable at all. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #73
Maybe he makes 2 am Subway runs regularly TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Oneironaut Jan 2019 #39
Thank goodness he's not permanently injured. Hortensis Jan 2019 #16
Wow! Things are getting out of control. JohnnyRingo Jan 2019 #20
Deep wound of America Traildogbob Jan 2019 #59
Right on. nt greyl Jan 2019 #64
It's pretty sad that the first reaction from multiple posters dbackjon Jan 2019 #22
yup, sickening obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #24
This NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #26
It's not that unreasonable to question this story, esp. since the OP doesn't explain the previous mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #29
Rational skepticism (by definition) would lead to research of sum or story in question LanternWaste Jan 2019 #30
Yup dbackjon Jan 2019 #32
Nobody downplayed racism and homophobia, dude(tte) ... mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #35
Yes, they are downplaying racism and homophobia by questioning the story. dbackjon Jan 2019 #68
I'm hoping that, if recent developments turn out to be true, that you will apologize LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #86
good to know you are on the case, detective. Inkfreak Jan 2019 #67
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #69
Skepticism in case with very odd circumstances isnt odd at all; follow up is done. Apology accepted. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #74
Yes he is gay tulipsandroses Jan 2019 #34
Yes -noted and who happy feet Jan 2019 #43
+1 it's par for the course here n/t FreeState Jan 2019 #65
My thought exactly (nt) Cass Jan 2019 #70
I am trying to compose myself after seeing this on MSNBC tulipsandroses Jan 2019 #27
Oh right, Chicago is definitely 'MAGA country.' elleng Jan 2019 #28
Are you saying this is false? dbackjon Jan 2019 #33
I'm saying that Chicago (where I lived for 10 years) elleng Jan 2019 #37
Some of the most racist people I know came from Chicago dbackjon Jan 2019 #45
Sad. I lived in Hyde Park (Obabma's neighborhood, elleng Jan 2019 #49
Well, in just trying to develop a hip pocket profile I would note that Chicago... Anon-C Jan 2019 #55
"This is MAGA country" TeapotInATempest Jan 2019 #46
Thanks elleng Jan 2019 #50
Been in Chi since 1973; it's not MAGA country. Chi stopped all MAGA hopes of a 2016 rally, remember? ancianita Jan 2019 #52
Not that I want to necessarily go into conspiracy territory . . . ChicagoRonin Jan 2019 #53
Didnt think of that but it would make a lot of it "fit" oldsoftie Jan 2019 #63
Homegrown terrorism bdamomma Jan 2019 #54
You know they say a leader is reflective of the people who chose them to lead. Initech Jan 2019 #58
Maybe not homegrown. Dr. Strange Feb 2019 #71
thanks for bdamomma Feb 2019 #72
Police sources are telling CNN that the suspects claim Smollett paid them madville Feb 2019 #78
Any pictures of Smollet flipping the bird and mugging on social media? John Fante Jan 2019 #57
I read that the FBI is taking over the investigation madville Jan 2019 #62
Yes let's hope they catch the perpetrators soon n/t FreeState Jan 2019 #66
Police sources: New evidence suggests Jussie Smollett orchestrated attack madville Feb 2019 #75
Plot twist! Initech Feb 2019 #76
Chicago PD is pushing back against this narrative but time will tell. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #77
They're trying to be neutral madville Feb 2019 #82
It's only two sources. and the major networks just feed off one another. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #83
seemed obvious that it was faked janterry Feb 2019 #80
This story is two weeks old snowybirdie Feb 2019 #79
Cops are thinking he orchestrated it. underpants Feb 2019 #81
Whoops at140 Feb 2019 #84
The wasted police man-hours? metalbot Feb 2019 #85
+1 dalton99a Feb 2019 #87
Police wasted time on a fake homophobic attack instead at140 Feb 2019 #88
But how would they have known it was fake when he first reported it? jcmaine72 Feb 2019 #89

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
38. And bleach, and just happened to ambush him leaving a Subway at 2am?
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:47 PM
Jan 2019

They must have left Kanye's Superman Cape in the truck.

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
7. I'm not that surprised unfortunately
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:22 PM
Jan 2019

There's a lot of racist people here in Chicago. These actions are reprehensible and those who did this to him should be held responsible and thrown in jail.

Initech

(100,097 posts)
10. The sad thing is Trump could denounce this shit.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:31 PM
Jan 2019

But he hasn't, probably won't say anything. And if he does it will probably be completely insensitive and he'll invite the MAGAts to the White House.

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
15. He never will denounce these types
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:45 PM
Jan 2019

He wants these people to do horrible things so that he and only he can fix it by bringing in the National Guard or the military. This presidency can't end fast enough.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
41. Gee,
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jan 2019

I was driving through Chicago in 1967. I was stopped for speeding. I had a friendly chat with the cop and he didn't even give me a ticket? Oh I forgot to mention, I am White, in uniform and had my orders on me since I just got back to the states.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
14. Yeah, they were awfully prepared for a random maga nutjob hit.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:44 PM
Jan 2019

He had just traveled to Chicago, and was only outside his hotel because he was hungry at 2:00 am. And two random white dudes not only recognized him, but were fully equipped with ski masks and a noose?

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
19. It was premeditated
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:24 PM - Edit history (1)

He was in Chicago for filming

https://thatgrapejuice.net/entertainment/2019/01/jussie-smollett-hospitalized-homophobic-hate-attack/


Details are incoming, however it appears the horrendous incident was premeditated.

For, sources say Smollett first received this chilling threat through the post.


Sources add that the 35-year-old, who resides in Chicago while filming the hit FOX series, was later attacked around 2am this morning by two men in ski-masks. Both of whom placed a noose around his neck.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
47. It's sorta believable, but i still have questions.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:31 PM
Jan 2019

For instance, it was a random trip. What were they going to do if he didn't get hungry at 2:00 am, or if he was sleepy? Just sit around and wait for him to exit his hotel, perhaps in broad daylight? Police tend to ask people questions if they're loitering, even of white people. And it would be hard to explain away ski masks and nooses.

marble falls

(57,144 posts)
61. Premeditated or not, I have a baraclava and plenty of rope in my car. And I've been know to stop ...
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 04:53 PM
Jan 2019

late at night for bite. And I haven't committed any crimes outside of a doobie habit.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
18. He had received threatening letters
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:55 PM
Jan 2019

He was in Chicago for filming

https://thatgrapejuice.net/entertainment/2019/01/jussie-smollett-hospitalized-homophobic-hate-attack/


Details are incoming, however it appears the horrendous incident was premeditated.

For, sources say Smollett first received this chilling threat through the post.


Sources add that the 35-year-old, who resides in Chicago while filming the hit FOX series, was later attacked around 2am this morning by two men in ski-masks. Both of whom placed a noose around his neck.

oldsoftie

(12,583 posts)
25. I didnt want to be the first to notice that.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:11 PM
Jan 2019

Even if it was known he was going to be in town, would people really be waiting at 2am for him to randomly exit his hotel?
There should also be cameras around too.
We'll see.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,208 posts)
40. Maybe he makes 2 am Subway runs regularly
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jan 2019

Shooting TV shows can make for weird hours, especially something like Empire that has a lot of night shoots. 2 am might be his 8 pm.

Response to jaysunb (Reply #11)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Thank goodness he's not permanently injured.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jan 2019

This must have been truly terrifying, though, and that trauma won't quickly mend.

JohnnyRingo

(18,638 posts)
20. Wow! Things are getting out of control.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jan 2019

Racism and racial intimidation have been with us forever, but the actions seem bolder of late. It's possible that a spotlight has been more focused on the problem in the age of Trump, but I believe there's been at least a modest uptick in the underlying hatred.

I note this isn't the deep south here, but an area with a considerable minority population that usually receives modest tolerance, further evidence that this is inspired by the Pardoner in Chief.

Traildogbob

(8,790 posts)
59. Deep wound of America
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 04:31 PM
Jan 2019

The deep infected wound of America, from the beginning, is whites taking, and killing anyone of color in their way. Indegionous genecide from the get go. Give me the resources, worship my white God, speak my language and enslave a race to do the work for my wealth. It has always been there and after civil rights laws were passed a huge bandage was placed over the rotting wound to keep it on the down low. Trump ripped the bandage off, and the MAGAT's (baby fly larva) came rushing into the light and now creating many more wounds to feast on. And the white GOD told em it is his message and they will be with him in heaven for following his demands. Fuck whites and their white God. Sick of it all. (I am White, I served with very many nationalities, during and after the draft. Those nationalities joined to fight for this country even after the disgraceful VietNam war. These MAGAT's have served nothing, except a sick white rule idealogogy under a cloak of a fucked up God. Making AmurKKKa Great. 🖕🏼🐘💩

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
22. It's pretty sad that the first reaction from multiple posters
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:59 PM
Jan 2019

Is to NOT condemn the violence, but to question the story.


 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
29. It's not that unreasonable to question this story, esp. since the OP doesn't explain the previous
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:25 PM
Jan 2019

receipt of hate-mail, nor the fact that the actor apparently resides in Chicago when the show is in filming, i.e. this wasn't a one-off type of arrival in the city as the OP suggests.

It does 'sound fishy' without that bit of info.

Dudes had rope, ski-masks and bleach, and just happened upon this actor at 2AM at Subway when he JUST arrived in Chicago?

Once you understand he lives in Chicago at least part-time, and that he received a threatening letter ... it starts to make more sense as a premeditated attack by a couple MAGA hate-filled stalkers who probably knew where he lives when he's in Chicago.

Me, if I were the cops? Unless the victim has never been to that Subway, I'd be looking closely at the employees at that establishment for any Nazi types.

I have a question: I know there's a gay character on Empire, but is the actor himself also gay IRL?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. Rational skepticism (by definition) would lead to research of sum or story in question
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:28 PM
Jan 2019

Rather than simply stating "I'm skeptical... but too lazy to do any follow-up at all on it."

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
32. Yup
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:29 PM
Jan 2019

The links I posted were readily available with a 10-second search.


But instead, our resident "Progressives" choose to downplay racism and homophobia.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
35. Nobody downplayed racism and homophobia, dude(tte) ...
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:34 PM
Jan 2019

Going a bit far with that accusation.

Accusing your fellow progressives of 'being lazy' might be fair in this case, but accusing of them by extension of essentially not caring about horrible violence against gay black people due to their orientation and race is quite a leap.

IMHO.

Response to Inkfreak (Reply #67)

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
34. Yes he is gay
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:31 PM
Jan 2019

And also an activist
I don't doubt that he was attacked for being all the above. Black, Gay and an activist that speaks out against this administration

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
27. I am trying to compose myself after seeing this on MSNBC
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:21 PM
Jan 2019

Jussie has been very outspoken regarding so many issues. He is a fearless activist. This is so shocking and chilling. He was on Rev A's show just this past Sunday and Rev Al remarked that he puts himself out there on the frontline moreso than many in Hollywood. Jussie doesn't only talk, he walks the walk.

I'm so shook up by this. I know Jussie will come back even stronger against this heinous attack. We will not be silenced!!!!

elleng

(131,043 posts)
37. I'm saying that Chicago (where I lived for 10 years)
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:41 PM
Jan 2019

doesn't strike me as fertile ground for the MAGA bunch, but I recognize the power of propaganda of the right, and it's been pulling on our culture for many years.

elleng

(131,043 posts)
49. Sad. I lived in Hyde Park (Obabma's neighborhood,
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:33 PM
Jan 2019

represented by Abner Mikva for years,) worked in the loop, and attended DePaul College of Law.

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
55. Well, in just trying to develop a hip pocket profile I would note that Chicago...
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 04:08 PM
Jan 2019

...does have a locus of gang activity that overlaps with white supremacists...Aryan Brotherhood, Gaylords, Peckerwoods, etc.

TeapotInATempest

(804 posts)
46. "This is MAGA country"
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:29 PM
Jan 2019

The hell it is. Chicago is a deep blue city and we are NOT going to put up with this kind of crap.

If these guys they think they're so tough...well, I suspect they're going to be disabused of that notion.

ancianita

(36,130 posts)
52. Been in Chi since 1973; it's not MAGA country. Chi stopped all MAGA hopes of a 2016 rally, remember?
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jan 2019

ChicagoRonin

(630 posts)
53. Not that I want to necessarily go into conspiracy territory . . .
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:48 PM
Jan 2019

Assuming everything reported is true, my personal theory is that someone (one or more) involved in the production of "Empire" either tipped off these bozos as to Smollett's routine or movements, or were involved in the beating itself.

Chicago (my home) doesn't generally feel like MAGA territory, but I know there's Trump supporters here and there.

And although show business is generally a pretty liberal-leaning business, there's a lot of blue collar types working crew (lights, trucks, etc.).

Not that I want to slam blue-collar types, but I'm also an actor of color, and I've heard my share of reactionary, racist, crass sh*t from the guys working behind the scenes. And I'm sure some of them get pretty resentful carting stuff for seemingly pampered, successful TV stars and their liberal-leaning politics and ways.

oldsoftie

(12,583 posts)
63. Didnt think of that but it would make a lot of it "fit"
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 10:51 PM
Jan 2019

It would certainly help explain how 2 guys with masks, rope, bleach, etc, would be right there at 2am when he wanted a sandwich. Not to mention acting like they "just" recognized him; its below zero in Chicago; he'd be wrapped up too tight to SEE who he was.

But if someone working on the show who didnt like him was involved, they could be tipped off easily.

Initech

(100,097 posts)
58. You know they say a leader is reflective of the people who chose them to lead.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 04:29 PM
Jan 2019

So if Trump is the biggest asshole on the planet, what does that say about the people who voted for him?

madville

(7,412 posts)
78. Police sources are telling CNN that the suspects claim Smollett paid them
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 08:43 PM
Feb 2019

to stage the attack. Smollett could be charged with a class 4 felony carrying a 1-3 year sentence if this is true.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
57. Any pictures of Smollet flipping the bird and mugging on social media?
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 04:13 PM
Jan 2019

The media needs to find out - it's extremely important in a case like this.

madville

(7,412 posts)
62. I read that the FBI is taking over the investigation
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 08:06 PM
Jan 2019

They are really good at figuring these kinds of incidents out, hopefully they can get to the bottom of it quickly.

madville

(7,412 posts)
75. Police sources: New evidence suggests Jussie Smollett orchestrated attack
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 08:36 PM
Feb 2019
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/entertainment/jussie-smollett-attack/index.html

Two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the investigation told CNN that Chicago Police believe Jussie Smollett paid two men to orchestrate the assault.

The brothers, who were arrested Wednesday, were released without charges Friday after Chicago police cited the discovery of "new evidence." The sources told CNN that the two men are now cooperating fully with law enforcement.

Smollett told authorities he was attacked early January 29 by two men who were "yelling out racial and homophobic slurs." He said one attacker put a rope around his neck and poured an unknown chemical substance on him.

The sources told CNN that there are records that show the two brothers purchased the rope found around Smollett's neck at an Ace Hardware store in Chicago.

madville

(7,412 posts)
82. They're trying to be neutral
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 08:49 PM
Feb 2019

But the internal leaks are starting to make their spokesperson look ridiculous. All major media networks are reporting this now.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
83. It's only two sources. and the major networks just feed off one another.
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 09:01 PM
Feb 2019

but they still may be right. we will see.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
80. seemed obvious that it was faked
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 08:46 PM
Feb 2019

I was surprised that so many believed this.

I guess with all those investigators, we'll find out more details - soon.

snowybirdie

(5,232 posts)
79. This story is two weeks old
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 08:46 PM
Feb 2019

Latest today is tv star is accused of hiring two black men to beat him up. Sad if true

at140

(6,110 posts)
84. Whoops
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 09:06 PM
Feb 2019

I hope he will be required to pay for all the wasted police manhours,
which could have been used to catch real criminals.

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
85. The wasted police man-hours?
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 09:46 PM
Feb 2019

That's the least damaging part of making up an attack like this.

Two weeks ago in Austin, a gay couple was beaten leaving a bar in what was an actual homophobic attack. Two years from now, few people will remember that attack, but nobody is going to forget "that time when a gay actor made up a story about being the victim of an attack". False reports like this are _incredibly_ damaging to people who are actually victims of horrible crimes.

at140

(6,110 posts)
88. Police wasted time on a fake homophobic attack instead
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:17 PM
Feb 2019

they could have spent that time investigating real homophobic attacks, which in a big city like Chicago many not be hard to find. That is the real waste of man power.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
89. But how would they have known it was fake when he first reported it?
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 12:51 AM
Feb 2019

I'm no fan of the police, but I'll at least credit them with doing their due diligence here. It sounds like they took the (alleged) attack on Smollett very seriously and investigated this case pretty vigorously, which is precisely what we should want the police to do in a case like this.

In the end, any negative consequences, such as wasted manpower and OT, that may have resulted from this being a staged incident should fall squarely on Smollett's shoulders.

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