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hue

(4,949 posts)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:41 PM Sep 2012

GOP's Ryan to go up with TV ads _ for House seat

Source: Associated Press

HUDSON, Wis. (AP) -- Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan plans to begin airing ads in Wisconsin as he asks voters to elect him to an eighth House term that he hopes to never serve.

Contracts formalized Tuesday with at least one Milwaukee television station show that Ryan's congressional ads will start airing Wednesday morning and go initially for two weeks. The Ryan congressional ads start in the same week as presidential ticket mate Mitt Romney's commercials went on air in Wisconsin, although the cost for the two sets of ads are drawn from different campaign accounts.

Wisconsin law allows Ryan to seek both offices simultaneously but only serve in one if he wins the pair. His Democratic opponent in the state's 1st District is Rob Zerban, a former county official.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_RYAN_ADS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT



Looks like Ryan doesn't want to be unemployed!!
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GOP's Ryan to go up with TV ads _ for House seat (Original Post) hue Sep 2012 OP
What are his opponent's chances? cosmicone Sep 2012 #1
we all should donate riverwalker Sep 2012 #3
Thanks! n/t cosmicone Sep 2012 #6
I heard that there are 4 PACs getting ready to spend +600 million against Ryan for that seat cstanleytech Sep 2012 #8
Sounds good! elleng Sep 2012 #10
All I can say is that its a very reliable source, sorry. nt cstanleytech Sep 2012 #12
HAHAHAHA! elleng Sep 2012 #13
agree! lunasun Sep 2012 #16
I don't think the voices in your head are really a reliable source onenote Sep 2012 #20
Nope not in my head and it makes sense because it could also have the added effect of costing cstanleytech Sep 2012 #24
Its absurd in the extreme. onenote Sep 2012 #25
Doh, I just scrolled up my bad lol cstanleytech Sep 2012 #27
still a ridiculous waste of money onenote Sep 2012 #29
Are they republican pacs? :) aletier_v Sep 2012 #28
His Dem opponent is Rob Zerban (1st District) n/t hue Sep 2012 #4
How great would it be to get rid of this asshole altogether? MrSlayer Sep 2012 #2
I keep hoping tartan2 Sep 2012 #5
he must not be feeling too confident about his chances of becoming the VP. olddad56 Sep 2012 #7
Would you have said the same thing... harrose Sep 2012 #18
I agree with you... DonViejo Sep 2012 #19
CONTRIBUTE TO RYAN'S OPPONENT ROB ZERBAN! elleng Sep 2012 #9
Congress AND Pres./VP ads for the same guy. Isn't Kenosha sick of this tool yet? SunSeeker Sep 2012 #11
Media seize on this! Strat0 Sep 2012 #14
Too bad, Ryan is out on both sides. Panasonic Sep 2012 #15
LBJ ran for VP and Senate at the same time. Gruenemann Sep 2012 #17
So did Biden. It's not that uncomon. n/t totodeinhere Sep 2012 #22
maybe he should run for state senate too, just in case. nt julian09 Sep 2012 #21
even HE doesn't believe in his own ticket -- tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 #23
Can he run for two offices at once? notadmblnd Sep 2012 #26
Of course. Biden, Lieberman, LBJ, and Bentsen are all examples. onenote Sep 2012 #32
Absolutely. sofa king Sep 2012 #34
If I were superstitious, I'd say he's jinxing his vice presidential chances. David__77 Sep 2012 #30
Didn't hurt LBJ or Biden. onenote Sep 2012 #33
lolz Not too confident about the WH, eh? JNelson6563 Sep 2012 #31
Please, Please, Please Liberalynn Sep 2012 #35

cstanleytech

(26,294 posts)
8. I heard that there are 4 PACs getting ready to spend +600 million against Ryan for that seat
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:05 PM
Sep 2012

just so he will lose his home state but ya why not donate since the more a beating he takes the better imo.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
20. I don't think the voices in your head are really a reliable source
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:01 PM
Sep 2012

The idea that there are PACs prepared to spend $600 million on Ryan's house seat is obviously your attempt at humor, although for the life of me I can't figure out what the punch line is.

cstanleytech

(26,294 posts)
24. Nope not in my head and it makes sense because it could also have the added effect of costing
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 07:27 PM
Sep 2012

the state for Romney as well if Ryan loses, sure my source could be wrong but I doubt it.
That aside by all means everyone should donate as much as they can to Zerban so as to make sure that Ryan wont be serving another term as the country cant afford that asshole to be in any position of power in the government anymore.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
25. Its absurd in the extreme.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:22 PM
Sep 2012

The amount spent by one side in the most expensive House race in 2010 was less than $12 million. As of the end of July, President Obama had raised around $350 million. In the 2008 election, the combined spending was $1.3 billion. You think that one Congressional district in Wisconsin is going to receive twice as much money as President Obama has raised for his national campaign and nearly half of what President Obama and McCain spent in 2008? THe entire population of the First Congressional District in Wisconsin is around 670,000, including children. The largest number of voters in any First District election has been around 350,000. So you think that over $1500 per voter is going to be spent in the district? There isn't enough TV time in Kenosha to spend that much.

Your source is pulling your leg or deluded.

cstanleytech

(26,294 posts)
27. Doh, I just scrolled up my bad lol
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:38 PM
Sep 2012

I walking talking to my friend a bit ago and I misunderstood him it was 60 million not 600 million, my apologies.
60+ million though isnt bad though.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
2. How great would it be to get rid of this asshole altogether?
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:52 PM
Sep 2012

I would so enjoy seeing him smacked out of the political arena.

harrose

(380 posts)
18. Would you have said the same thing...
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 05:00 PM
Sep 2012

... about Biden (who ran for VP and the Senate) in 2008 or Lieberman (who also ran for VP and Senate) in 2000?

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
11. Congress AND Pres./VP ads for the same guy. Isn't Kenosha sick of this tool yet?
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:15 PM
Sep 2012

Rob Zerban looks great--even when not standing next to that tool Ryan. He cares about the people in his district and he's a real small business owner. The anti-Ryan.



www.robzerban.com

Strat0

(34 posts)
14. Media seize on this!
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:25 PM
Sep 2012

I've been waiting for some intrepid reporter to do this, whenever Ryan ducks a question about his record, deferring to Romney's policies as head of the ticket, Ryan can and should be pressed to answer any and all questions based on his status as a congressional candidate, not as a VP candidate.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
15. Too bad, Ryan is out on both sides.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:33 PM
Sep 2012

House and VP slots denied.

He will have to go back to Oscar Mayer and beg for a job driving the Weinermobile - the only outside experience besides lying.

Gruenemann

(984 posts)
17. LBJ ran for VP and Senate at the same time.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:55 PM
Sep 2012

When Kennedy was elected, LBJ had to resign his senate seat, and in a special election he was replaced by <gag> John Tower.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
32. Of course. Biden, Lieberman, LBJ, and Bentsen are all examples.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:53 PM
Sep 2012

Nothing wrong with it. Often a strategically sound move.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
34. Absolutely.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:29 PM
Sep 2012

Bob Dole famously resigned his Senate seat in June, 1996, to focus on losing to President Bill Clinton. The Republican hold on Kansas was never seriously in question and in fact Kansans returned two Republican Senators to Congress that year, which doesn't happen very often.

We still came out ahead because Dole was eventually replaced with Sam Brownback, who is a typical four-martini Republican politician who knows all about evil but little about his actual job, while Dole was a formidable opponent. Dole's departure did not harm the Republican majority in the Senate, but it did increase the "cleverness deficit" in the Senate, which has been freely exploited by Democrats ever since. Anything we have left at this point is largely thanks to Republicans not being smart enough to exploit their advantages when they had them.

But since then, most Members of Congress who have run for national office have hedged their bets, including Kucinich, Kerry, McCain, and President Obama (who, along with Hillary Clinton, ran as a sitting Senator). Kucinich, being from the House, was always up for reelection whenever he ran nationally, so he always ran his campaigns concurrently.

It works well for us this time around because it's a free shot at the Republicans, and we would be fools not to take it. But conventional wisdom suggests that a candidate running for national office can help his campaign by also running for his usual position in Congress, or holding onto the position in Congress if he or she is not up for reelection.

David__77

(23,421 posts)
30. If I were superstitious, I'd say he's jinxing his vice presidential chances.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:43 PM
Sep 2012

Really, I'm not superstitious, but I felt like Al Gore was doomed once he chose Joe Lieberman in 2000 - and that the deal was sealed when Lieberman proceeded to run for both US senate and vice presidency.

If you are so confident of victory, don't run for the lesser office.

If you are not so confident of victory, you must behave as if you are, or people will pick up on this and view if unfavorably.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
33. Didn't hurt LBJ or Biden.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:59 PM
Sep 2012

And while they weren't having to campaign for reelection, it didn't hurt Obama or Kennedy to not resign their Senate seats while they ran for President (while Bob Dole chose to resign his seat while he mounted a national campaign and he ended up without either a national office or a Senate seat).

I don't think one can find much of a pattern. Its often a smart move strategically -- it will be interesting to see whether the ads that are run in ryan's district are really aimed at reelecting him to Congress or are thinly veiled ads for the presidential campaign (using funds donated to his congressional campaign, which means donors who have reached their limit in the presidential campaign can funnel more money to them through ryan's congressional campaign).

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