UPDATE: Sen. Bernie Sanders will seek the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020
Source: Washington Post
Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, whose 2016 presidential campaign grew from a left-wing insurgency to a force that reshaped the Democratic Party, announced Tuesday that he will seek its nomination for president again in 2020.
We began the political revolution in the 2016 campaign, and now it's time to move that revolution forward, Sanders told Vermont Public Radio in an interview airing Tuesday morning.
Sanders, who has held dozens of political rallies across the country since the 2016 election, enters the race with the biggest social media following and biggest mailing list of any candidate for the Democratic nomination. His decision came after a number of groups that spun out from his 2016 run, such as Our Revolution and People for Bernie, held house parties to mobilize his old supporters, and to find new ones.
After coming a few hundred delegates short of victory in 2016, Sanders begins a 2020 race with some advantages. He is one of the best-known and most admired figures in Democratic politics, though he is not a member of the party. He built campaign operations in every primary and caucus state.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/sen-bernie-sanders-will-seek-the-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2020/2019/02/19/be5b0216-002e-11e9-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html
Official now.
Original article -
By Washington Post Staff
February 19 at 6:34 AM
Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont whose 2016 presidential campaign grew from a left-wing insurgency to a major political force, will seek the Democratic Partys nomination again in 2020.
After Donald Trump became president, Sanders began to take a bigger role shaping the party, reintroducing ambitious bills, starting with Medicare-for-all legislation. Those ideas have gained popularity since his 2016 run, but he now faces a diverse field of candidates, many of whom share his policy positions if not his democratic socialist beliefs.
This is a developing story. It will be updated.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/02/19/sen-bernie-sanders-democrats-2016-runner-up-to-make-another-presidential-bid/?utm_term=.5e75abb6c15b
dhol82
(9,353 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....BEFORE his announcement.
He still shows as an "I" in Vermont, and before anyone tells me Vermont has no party affiliation, Patrick Leahy has been a "D" in Vermont for more than 40 years.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
George II
(67,782 posts)If it's been a whole ten minutes since he declared, I presume he's been a Democrat for at least 11 minutes?
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)samnsara
(17,623 posts)BostonBlue
(53 posts)Botany
(70,523 posts)n/t
we can do it
(12,189 posts)Response to we can do it (Reply #10)
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we can do it
(12,189 posts)And Russia.
chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)Please stop gaslighting.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)x2
justie18
(169 posts)Not ready for a rerun
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)A view from the north: Whenever Sanders is interviewed -- whether on a news program, or a late night talk show -- I know exactly (and I mean EXACTLY) what he is going to say. It's the same old song, even sung in the same key. And that song isn't worth being sung by him anymore. There are plenty of great progressive candidates in the race, and the U.S. deserves a more exciting tune.
And practically speaking, think of who you would like to represent you on the world stage. Of the declared candidates, and if I were an American, my #1 choice would be Kamala Harris.
But that's just me!
Gothmog
(145,345 posts)Book sales are down
obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)the same way. Im in my 60s and I dont want someone that age running for president. He should also be a member of the party, which at last check he is not.
Lonestarblue
(10,024 posts)All he will do is divide the party, to which comments here attest. I appreciate that Bernie brought out the need for more progressive policies, but we now have several good progressive candidates who will appeal to all wings of the Democratic Party, including the significant bloc of minority voters, a constituency that did not warm up to Bernie last time.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)to "we need new blood" and "we need younger candidates?"
Iggo
(47,558 posts)It always comes back, though.
EarthFirst
(2,900 posts)Extra butter; anyone?
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)He should not run for president. He was borderline too old in 2016.
He turns 83 in Sep 2024, near the end of his first term.
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)As much as I like Biden, he should not run. I believe the Democratic party already has a lot of good candidates, we don't need Bernie or Biden.
Now, why is it that Adam Schiff is not running? I believe he would be a great candidate and a great President.
Adam Schiff/Kamala Harris ---> That is the ticket.
Biden too, but again, it is the age thing that bothers me. We have so many great, younger people running we should pick one of them. Im in my 60s and its time for younger people to be running for president like Obama did.
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)is older than Bernie. So by your logic, if for some reason Trump and Pence were gone, then Nancy Pelosi should not be president?
Martin Eden
(12,872 posts)90?
100?
The presidency (with the possible exception of a sociopath like tRump) is a highly stressful demanding job with a tremendous set of responsibilities.
Like it or not human beings decline with age, and the older you get the more likely your abilities can be unexpectedly cut short. It's a fact of our mortal existence.
I like Bernie Sanders. I voted for him in the 2016 primary, but now he would be 87 at the end of a 2nd term.
If Nancy Pelosi had to fill in to finish a term I would have no immediate concerns, but she wouldn't get my primary vote in a presidential race.
LudwigPastorius
(9,156 posts)The loss of abilities with age is a scientific fact, not an opinion.
The onset and speed of the decline, and the order in which certain abilities are effected, is largely dependent on the individual, but it is inevitable.
There is a reason airline pilots have a mandatory retirement age of 65.
potone
(1,701 posts)the presidency, if the president actually workswhich Trump doesn'ttakes a very heavy toll on people. Presidents age fast in office. I like Bernie, but I think he is too old, and the same goes for Biden. It is extremely unlikely that Pelosi would ever become president, so I don't worry about that. We need younger people who have the stamina to govern, and who can inspire young people to vote! Biden is not only too old, but he also will not inspire young people. But whoever emerges as the eventual nominee better have a progressive agenda to repair at least some of the damage that Trump and the Republicans have done.
Martin Eden
(12,872 posts)+1
Plus, the nominee needs to have an outstanding set of qualifications with a policy agenda to go with inspiring leadership.
Maven
(10,533 posts)Not an independent who rigs the primary in his state to prevent a real Dem from running.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)to tell him that he cannot divide and criticize us and then turn around and take advantage of our resources. Let him run as an independent. He is not one of us.
He reminds me of the people who go to church on Christmas and Easter, who turn to the church when their daughter is getting married or when grandma dies. The want the church then, but won't support it the rest of the year. They claim church membership quite indignantly if anyone questions their commitment. A lot of their friends agree with that position as well. Do they give money? Do they mow the lawn? Do they teach Sunday School? Oh, but they're Christians. Of course they are.
Go away, Bernie. You had your chance. Not this time, Bernie.
George II
(67,782 posts)...almost an hour earlier to avoid the "Holiday" rush. Interesting, the Catholic Church revamped some of the readings about three years ago, but on holidays half the people still mutter the old ones.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)So true.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)That would just guaran-damn-tee the tRumpster Fire's re-election.
safeinOhio
(32,695 posts)Let the primaries decide, and it won't be Bernie.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)We get him running as an 'I' and pulling off just enough votes to ensure Trump wins.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)Don't put words in my mouth.
Bernie should not be running at all. Any way he runs makes 45's reelection more likely.
we can do it
(12,189 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)He has my email address, but I never gave it to him. I wonder where he got it from?
BumRushDaShow
(129,151 posts)and for some reason, I was suddenly on the "progressivepartyusa" list as of 12/23/18, so getting a lot from them (which includes Bernie stuff).
George II
(67,782 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,151 posts)obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,960 posts)
it's official. Also, it's good that he said he's running as a Democrat. Imagine the result if he were to NOT run as a Democrat. That would be a disaster....
we can do it
(12,189 posts)henbuck
(46 posts)we can do it
(12,189 posts)PatSeg
(47,517 posts)though I really wish he just wouldn't run. He did help start a revolution on the left and I think he should take pride in that, but being president was not meant to be for him. This time he could have taken on a different role and become a kingmaker or preferably a queenmaker.
I don't know what on earth he was thinking, but this was a terrible decision. The Democratic party was so torn in 2016 and it is just now starting to come together for a common purpose. Bernie in the race will not help and I'm afraid history will not remember him fondly because of it.
Mike Nelson
(9,960 posts)
he could still play a positive role and avoid bitter stuff with the other candidates... and possibly be a force for good in the Senate.
PatSeg
(47,517 posts)I always had a high opinion of Bernie, but I didn't support his run for president. Some people just aren't presidential material. It takes more than great ideas and compelling rhetoric to be the most powerful person on the planet.
Sadly, now my opinion of him is less than it used to be, as it feels like he got bitten by the president bug and he is doing this for all the wrong reasons. He should look back at all the failed candidacies in the Democratic party and see how others handled their loss with grace and dignity and went on to serve in other ways - Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clint (twice), John Dean (best DNC chair ever and helped get Obama elected), Joe Biden. And of those, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and probably had the election stolen from them.
This is starting to feel like one huge ego trip. He could and should do better than that.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)djg21
(1,803 posts)Bernie should go away.
SCRUBDASHRUB
(7,252 posts)Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)I'm just going to say, no. He's too old. I appreciate the fact that being president is on his bucket list, but no, just no.
babylonsister
(171,075 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)babylonsister
(171,075 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)BERNIE'S NOT A DEMOCRAT DAMNNIT!!11!!!111!!!.
babylonsister
(171,075 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)How old is too to be president? 90? 100?
If it's possible for someone to be too young to be president, then the reverse is also true.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)This is being said by a 64 year old woman so no ageism here. If Biden were the nominee I would work hard for him. Unlike Bernie, he has been a DEMOCRAT his entire life!
yaesu
(8,020 posts)OldManTarHeel
(435 posts)Hopefully, he'll get the message early on and drop out.
WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)And on a different topic, can I be the PR director for every democratic candidate so that I can make them all stop saying stupid crap all the time. Every single freakin one of them is killing us.
dem4decades
(11,297 posts)Again.
George II
(67,782 posts)dem4decades
(11,297 posts)Celebrating the news Bernie was announcing today.
It's a pretty tough and tumble place and sometimes i get on trouble when i go from there to here.
2naSalit
(86,650 posts)What a lot of money that's going to go down the toilet in this next couple years.
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obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)Fuzzpope
(602 posts)Signal to noise ratio between dem candidates just got cranked to 11.
Fwiw, I was a vigorous supporter (NOT a Bernie bro, thanks) of his in 2016, this is the only person I've ever made a campaign contribution to, but I don't know how I feel about him running now.
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obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)Lots of Southern states also early in the mix. Sanders will not have basically just Hillary this time, and I expect the results will drive him even further away from the nom than 2016, and earlier, too. Will he stay in as long this year? Will the "Bros" be as awful as last time? What will happen at the convention?
WILL HE RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS???
jalan48
(13,872 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)jalan48
(13,872 posts)will show at the ballot box.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)We'll see how Democrats feel at that ballot box.
Democrats have to be convinced first, and we're to the left of the general population.
jalan48
(13,872 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)What do you mean by "2020's more robust debate format?"
Issues are always debated in primaries, no matter who is debating. Not sure why you think they wouldn't be, or who thinks it wouldn't "be good" to debate the issues.
jalan48
(13,872 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Issues are always debated in primaries, no matter who is debating or how many debates there are. They aren't debating recipes. Not sure why you think they wouldn't be, or who thinks it wouldn't "be good" to debate the issues.
And why do you think there will be more debates in 2020?
jalan48
(13,872 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Not surprised.
George II
(67,782 posts)jalan48
(13,872 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)I welcome his input and welcome him to the 2020 race. As for me, I'm going to be sexist & only support a women candidate during the primaries but will vote for the party choice during the GE.
jalan48
(13,872 posts)this time.
George II
(67,782 posts)....what will be accomplished by "pushing to the left" even further. The result will be losses, but by a greater margin.
birbeus
(1 post)Republicans, and if you fail to see that a general leftward shove of the democratic party could be what America needs right now, a counterbalance to the fairly heavily right-wing Republican party.
George II
(67,782 posts)...or states will have a tough time winning vs. a centrist Democrat.
Do you think any of our current "leftward" Democratic Senators could win election in West Virginia, or Alabama, or Montana, or even Arizona?
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stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)still_one
(92,251 posts)West, and others who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016?
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)NJCher
(35,688 posts)You will pass?
George II
(67,782 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)NJCher
(35,688 posts)Thanks to Bernie's success with Our Revolution, you'll be voting for him. His ideas are now mainstream Democratic, so whomever you vote for, you're really voting for Bernie.
Congratulations, and welcome to the fold.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)was expected of Bernie to answer why Vermont has not implemented his ideas. Why should he have all the fun. It looks others have picked up on this strategy.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)I promise I won't be. And I won't be joining 'our revolution' either. But good luck with continuing annoying and off putting tactics
NJCher
(35,688 posts)It was meant to annoy. I don't know if it was as good as your tactic of deflecting an answer with a psychic prediction, however.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)So happy you met your goal. Small things and all
cab67
(2,993 posts)when his victory becomes mathematically impossible?
not holding my breath on that.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)That's all I have to say on ol' Bern specifically...well, publicly...as I rather enjoy serving on juries again.
Speaking of, the click-and-report crowd has been extra-busy last night and this morning, so be measured in your statements, all.
hurple
(1,306 posts)He's back with his hand out for money.
He is NOT a Democratic Party member. (except when he wants their money)
Go away already!
AkFemDem
(1,826 posts)After coming a few hundred delegates short of victory in 2016, Sanders begins a 2020 race with some advantages. He is one of the best-known and most admired figures in Democratic politics, though he is not a member of the party.
What the author failed to mention in their excessive fawning is he is also the most divisive of the candidates....
His old age and divisiveness aside, the last part of this statement is what matters most. He is not a democrat. Hard pass!
Squinch
(50,956 posts)katmondoo
(6,457 posts)What were you doing all the years Hillary was working for America and it's people
TNNurse
(6,927 posts)It is that he is a SEASONAL DEMOCRAT AND HE IS TOO DAMN OLD.
at140
(6,110 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:57 PM - Edit history (2)
Their mental health is in good shape.
I can't believe how many are discriminating based on age. There is even a law against age related discrimination.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)Proper sequitor!
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)Many of the justices on Supreme Court are older than Bernie, and still on the job.
Surely Bernie is too old to be a fireman for example. But not too old to be a judge or a senator,
or president of the United States.
mountain grammy
(26,626 posts)chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)Just playing devil's advocate here. Yes or no, would you vote for Bernie in the general election if he wins the Democratic nomination?
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,151 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)no matter who it is.
I am confident that the nominee will be chosen by the majority of Democratic voters, in particular women of color, so I doubt I will have problems with the nominee.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)Anyone who wouldn't is a complete fucking moron.
You vote for the Dem candidate in the general election, no matter what.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Though it would piss me off if he went back to being independent as soon as he gained the WH.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)namahage
(1,157 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)namahage
(1,157 posts)It would be nice to have some assurances that our nominee for President would accept the Democratic nomination and not, say, refuse it and run as an Independent.
But we all know Bernie would NEVER do that...
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lunamagica
(9,967 posts)OhZone
(3,212 posts)Let them show who can attack non-democrats like Trump - and Bernie, the best.
ha
kennetha
(3,666 posts)Squinch
(50,956 posts)apcalc
(4,465 posts)LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Yeah, really coming back to bite us in the ass.
onetexan
(13,043 posts)At 76 Joe Biden shows no obvious sign of mental or physical decline and is still going strong. As he's said, no one is more qualified in the field than him. I'm with Joe. Hopefully Beto or Kamala will be on his ticket as VP.
This is what Bernie had to say in response to Barbara Boxer commenting that he's a Democrat ;some days':
"Of course I am a Democrat and running for the Democratic nomination."
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/feb/23/bernie-sanders-democrat/
To say that and then come out and hypocritically pronounce he's not after the 2016 election was just appalling to me.
Gothmog
(145,345 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)...because I liked saying McThuselah.
I'll vote for a 110 year old Dem in the general election.
No doubt. No problem.
bottomofthehill
(8,335 posts)The tRump tax returns and the Sanders tax returns.
RobertDevereaux
(1,857 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)We have a great field of candidates. Plus we are smarter this time. Most of the Bernie people I know say he had his moment it is time for a young democrat to take over. Bernie is only a Democrat when it is convenient.
treestar
(82,383 posts)This is virtually the same. And he won't have just one person to debate now. He won't get the same amount of attention.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)It is time for our party to look to the future, I'm an OLD broad but I like lots of the young candidates we have on deck.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)And that was to further demonize Hillary Clinton.
There will be none of that this time and his supporters will be surprised at how fast he will fall under real scrutiny.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I got crucified for saying that he was not being fully scrutinized. Just wait until they get into what his wife did to the College she was President of that had to close. That is a can of worms for sure. Not to mention some of the things former staff have to say about him.
I predict he will be out by June if not before. The money will be more spread out this time too.
Gothmog
(145,345 posts)Senator Harris released ten years of tax returns when she announced
yaesu
(8,020 posts)until that candidate becomes the presidential nominee, a candidate who is assumed to be their party's nominee, but has not yet been formally nominated or elected by their political party at the party's nominating convention.
Gothmog
(145,345 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)I don't think any laws of this nature would survive the Supreme court imho. I do know Gov Brown of CA vetoed such a law back in '17.
solidLxxi
(26 posts)is if Bernie Sanders somehow wins the Democratic nomination, will you be voting for him over Donald Trump?
There were mid-West voters who voted for Bernie in the primaries but defected to Trump in the 2016 election, just as there were many Hillary supporters who defected to John McCain in 2008 instead of voting for Obama (despite the fact that she campaigned for Obama after she conceded to him).
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)There are far more appealing candidates who also aren't nearly 80. Bernie's 15 minutes of fame are up. I predict he bombs on the campaign trail and that'll be the end of his relevancy.
solidLxxi
(26 posts)from over 120,000 people, I'm not sure I can logically agree with your position.
Snellius
(6,881 posts)At this point even his supporters know he's a clown. They just hate the opposition more.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)TexasAggieDemocrat12
(14 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)"The Democratic National Committee (DNC) adopted a new rule on Friday....The new rule, adopted by the DNCs Rules and Bylaws Committee, requires all Democratic presidential candidates to be a member of the Democratic Party"
Link to tweet
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Politicub
(12,165 posts)DU turned into an ugly place four years ago. I hope history doesnt repeat itself.
David__77
(23,423 posts)...
angrychair
(8,704 posts)Whhhhaaaaatttttt!?!
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Because unless Hillary jumps in the race again, he's dead in the water.
machoneman
(4,007 posts)kimbutgar
(21,164 posts)apnu
(8,758 posts)Bernie will not have my support. It is unacceptable to be a Democrat when its convenient.
Also, we don't need another old rich white guy. For those who don't know, Bernie is a millionaire. Six figures, so "small" millions, but millions all the same.
Bernie is a step backwards.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)apnu
(8,758 posts)I hope those numbers change.
I like Biden, I supported Bernie in 2016. But its time we moved on. Right now, Harris has my support.
Panich52
(5,829 posts)1. He's another old white man
2. He's not a Democrat and never will be
3. I'm not sure he has the temperament to be POTUS
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)My next model will be a new modern one that will give me many years and miles of trouble free use.
UniteTheLeft
(49 posts)Can any of you tell me you'll let go of all fruitless bickering, and counterproductive jealousy this time no matter who wins the DNC 2020 primary ? Did you last time ? Because if you don't then you may as well be voting republican.
Age is not a reason not to vote for someone, gender is not a reason not to vote for someone, race is not a reason not to vote for someone. If we want to lose yet another election then the negativity I see in this post is exactly the losing formula. I understand many of you are worried, and you're right to be worried,but this kind of division can not be afforded this time at all. It's exactly what the Russian/trump trolls are licking their chops to cultivate. Stating the obvious...DU like any other site on the internet is not invulnerable to schill accounts trying to spread discontent and ill will among us.Their schill army sits back and laughs at stuff like this while the comment sections (like this one) do the work for them, and I have the succinct idea that is not what most people here want.
Personally I am not encouraged by the large field of candidates, not that I think any one candidate should not run, but because we have to take more time to narrow the field and unify behind one. You have to consider the fact that republican voters are as decided now as they were in 2016 who they are going to vote for... again... that i guarantee you. That being said I am far less encouraged by, and frustrated by democrat, progressive, and independent voters (whom all share more values with each other than they do these fascists now ruining our nation) still carrying on with all this counterproductive name calling, finger pointing, and generally childish behavior, and feuding with each other.
If as adults we can not all come together and find a consensus on this matter then WE WILL LOSE YET ANOTHER PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN 2020 if this attitude of defeatism, and resentment is not summarily dealt with by first flushing it down the toilet.. where it belongs.
The great majority of Republican/Trump voters in 2016 had no doubt who their vote was for... and look what that got them. We must be as decided as they were last time or we will lose again.
The candidates themselves also have the responsibility to deal with each other fairly if they all want OUR SIDE TO WIN and think that most them already are diplomatic enough to understand they are stronger together, and have a much better chance at winning an election if they know when to concede to each other and adopt each others strengths and combine them .. e.g. Think about it. .. regardless If It's Warren, Harris, Beto, Biden, or Bernie, as the nominee I have always thought the ultimate honor would be to pick one of the other candidates as their VP choice. IDK ...Just Imagine something amazing like Beto/Warren, or Sanders/Beto, Warren/Harris, Biden/Beto, Harris/Beto, frankly I'd take any of those over the nightmare we're all currently being forced to live through now...wouldn't you ?
SylviaD
(721 posts)SylviaD
(721 posts)Terminally_Chill
(76 posts)this shit is soooo stale.
we need someone else, change is good.