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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 06:05 PM Mar 2019

White House slams 'Medicare for All' as bad for Americans' health and wallets

Source: cnn






Updated 5:25 PM ET, Tue March 19, 2019


(CNN)The Trump administration slammed "Medicare for All" in its annual economic review Tuesday, claiming that creating a new government-run health care program would be expensive, damage the economy and hurt Americans' health.
President Donald Trump and his top health officials have repeatedly blasted Medicare for All, which several Democratic presidential candidates and lawmakers are backing.

"M4A will be neither more efficient nor cheaper than the current system, and it could adversely affect health," said the report, which is prepared by the White House Council of Economic Advisers, using a shorthand acronym for the proposed reform.
Instead, the administration backs the typical Republican moves of increasing competition and requiring patients to foot at least part of their health care bills to keep their usage in check.

Sanders, who is expected to introduce an updated version of the bill in coming weeks, has offered different ways of paying the tab -- which some have estimated at $32 trillion over a decade -- by hiking taxes on the wealthy, as well as on all taxpayers. He argues that many people will ultimately save money because they'll no longer have to pay premiums and will enjoy better health because they will be able to access care without worrying about the bills............................

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White House slams 'Medicare for All' as bad for Americans' health and wallets (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2019 OP
They do not want change ! Their wallets might dry up! donkeypoofed Mar 2019 #1
+1000 Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #10
even more important than their wallets drying up is their control rurallib Mar 2019 #11
same here 47of74 Mar 2019 #12
Keeping health care usage in check results in better health care, right..... PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #2
With republicans around, who needs enemies? gtar100 Mar 2019 #3
Someone running for Pres in 2020 ought to voice funding it via tax raise on rich... NotHardly Mar 2019 #4
The people that claimed obama care Maxheader Mar 2019 #5
So...with rump lying so much, they (WH) actually mean that Medicare for All is good in ... SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #6
Yep. n/t area51 Mar 2019 #15
The tax cut for the 1% would have covered most of it Evolve Dammit Mar 2019 #7
There are Democratic Presidential candidates who agree with Trump on this. denverbill Mar 2019 #8
Sadly enough there are. Autumn Mar 2019 #9
You know we should thank Trump and the Repugnant members of the House and Senate though cstanleytech Mar 2019 #13
If it is Medicare, Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #14
Hopefully, it would be an improved Medicare. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #17
Hey Jared hows your brother's OSCAR program going .....................here let's enlightened turbinetree Mar 2019 #16
Their statement on this is pure propaganda duforsure Mar 2019 #18
We all pay for Medicare DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #19
"If ...financed through higher taxes, it would reduce GDP..." Grins Mar 2019 #20
A typical reply from a pathological lire . geretogo Mar 2019 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #22

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
11. even more important than their wallets drying up is their control
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 08:30 PM
Mar 2019

of workers and the poor and the disabled drying up.

I have a very good friend who would love to go out on her own but the health care keeps her tethered to her job.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
2. Keeping health care usage in check results in better health care, right.....
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 06:26 PM
Mar 2019

Competition between insurance companies results in better health care, OK.... I think the White House is only concerned with my wallet and doesn't give a damn about anyone's health care.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
3. With republicans around, who needs enemies?
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 06:29 PM
Mar 2019

They slam all ideas that are proposed for the common good and follow up with either no ideas of their own or bad ideas that cost everyone more, provide even less and enrich just a handful of people. Other than hating liberals, why working class people identify as republicans is a mystery I'll never understand. The GOP does nothing for them and only makes things worse for them (and us) every time they do something. Truly astounding.

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
4. Someone running for Pres in 2020 ought to voice funding it via tax raise on rich...
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 06:37 PM
Mar 2019
a tax on every $1000.00 valuation of stock traded at the rate of 0.001, and serious accounting of military expenditures... waste to forfeit an equal amount and paid back into federal funds.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
5. The people that claimed obama care
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 06:41 PM
Mar 2019

made their existing healthcare insurance more expensive..

Should like this idea...

Evolve Dammit

(16,741 posts)
7. The tax cut for the 1% would have covered most of it
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 07:12 PM
Mar 2019

And now they're greasing the skids for another tax cut. F' em all.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
13. You know we should thank Trump and the Repugnant members of the House and Senate though
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:52 PM
Mar 2019

as they have provided an avenue for it actually to become reality when the next Democrat is in office and declares a National Healthcare Emergency and takes military funding to fund medicare for all.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
17. Hopefully, it would be an improved Medicare.
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 05:45 AM
Mar 2019

Medicare only covers 80% of most expenses. Plus, Medicare (part D) is forbidden from negotiating better prices for drugs. So, there are things that need fixing. And, expanding, into dental, vision, hearing, etc.

And, Medicare isn't exactly a "health care" program, it's an insurance program. For a health care program, we could use the V.A. as a model.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
16. Hey Jared hows your brother's OSCAR program going .....................here let's enlightened
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 11:13 PM
Mar 2019

everyone to your family fucking scram ................................so you can really go FUCK YOURSELF Jared and your brother can go FUCK himself also, right along with your entire family

JARED KUSHNER’S BROTHER SELLING OBAMACARE INSURANCE THAT COSTS YOU $24,000 BEFORE IT STARTS WORKING

A new health insurance plan offered in Ohio through the Affordable Care Act exchanges (aka. Obamacare) provides a dramatic look at the pitfalls of the high-deductible health plans often aimed at lower-income families, revealing the financial barrier to actually receiving care.

In June, New York’s Oscar Health, a tech-focused insurance company co-founded by Josh Kushner—brother to President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner—announced plans to sell health insurance in expanded markets, including Florida, Arizona and Michigan, plus large metro areas in Ohio, Tennessee and Texas. While shopping for insurance coverage for himself, his wife and a 10-year-old child, Columbus-area web-comic creator Drew Fairweather, 39 and a nonsmoker, came across one of their new offerings on the exchange.

(A subsequent tweet corrected the claim that Oscar Health is a Jared Kushner company, correctly attributing it to Josh instead.)

With a sky-high deductible of $15,800, the plan could see families spending up to $24,488.84 before emergency room care or regular doctor’s visits, even to a primary care physician, would be covered. The Oscar Buckeye State Simple Bronze plan uncovered by Fairweather was an outlier, but it was far from the only plan offering little coverage in exchange for a huge annual deductible.

The plan offers minimal coverage until $15,800 has been spent, though all Oscar Health plans include the ability to speak to a doctor for diagnosis over the phone, with the option to attach pictures of your symptoms. Newsweek has reached out to Oscar for comment.


https://www.newsweek.com/high-deductible-health-insurance-plan-jared-kushner-affordable-care-act-1248297

Hey guess what Jared I pay $135.00 a mouth for Medicare through my Social Security check, that's around $1600.00 a year, so if everyone had MEDICARE for all, it would go down..........................

November 3, 2020 cannot get here fast enough............................for the next BLUE WAVE

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
18. Their statement on this is pure propaganda
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 06:11 AM
Mar 2019

Just look at what they've really done. Promised better health care plan covering more for less, and with lower costs, all lies . They've done the opposite of what they claimed they would do , and have caused premiums to go higher, after promising drug prices would be lower they've gone up a lot more, and promising more would be covered millions have lost their plan after their tax scam bill passed. Huge cuts to Medicaid , Medicare , and Social Security after promising they wouldn't touch it, and now they want people to believe their propaganda , again. They took millions from big pharma also. When supporters of them realize this is just more propaganda to take more away with , some are going to become very pissed , at them, and themselves allowing this to happen to themselves from voting for these liars anymore. trump and the hate group party behind him don't want you to have any health care plans, just don't listen to their propaganda , and look at the facts of what they're doing, and they'll see they never match up as the truth. Remember how the trump and gop tax plan is a scam, this is too.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
19. We all pay for Medicare
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 07:48 AM
Mar 2019

The payment is deducted from our Social Security checks every month.

Then I pay a secondary Part D for two. And prescription drug plan even though neither the wife or myself take no prescription drugs. We have a dental plan too.

Those four plans are costing us about $800 per month total. Almost $10,000 per year just for premiums for a married retired couple. This is the second highest outlay in our budget after property taxes.

Then there are the co-pays, deductibles, etc. We can't even use our insurance in many cases until we've paid the first $4,000.

That's just off the top of my head. There is more.

You tell me, what kind of a bullshit "health care" system is this? Where would the money come from for universal healthcare? I have a harder time figuring out where the money is coming from NOW! I'm certain universal health care would cost far less when all is considered.

We're paying insurance companies a twenty-five percent premium for nothing but to pay salaries and bonuses.

Grins

(7,218 posts)
20. "If ...financed through higher taxes, it would reduce GDP..."
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 11:19 AM
Mar 2019

From the link:

"...the White House calculates that if Medicare for All were financed through higher taxes, it would reduce GDP over the long run by 9%, and household income after taxes and health expenditures by 19%."

Bullshit, and bullshit.

And you know what really reduces "household income after taxes and health expenditures"? Getting so sick you file for bankruptcy.

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