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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:06 PM Mar 2019

Mueller Told Barr Three Weeks Ago He Wouldn't Reach Obstruction Conclusion

Source: Talking Points Memo



By Allegra Kirkland

March 25, 2019 1:27 pm

Attorney General Bill Barr has known for three weeks that special counsel Robert Mueller would not be making a determination on whether President Trump obstructed justice, multiple outlets reported Monday. bA source told CNN that this “unexpected” move on Mueller’s part left it to Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to determine how to weigh in on the issue.

There has been much speculation over how it took Barr only 48 hours from the time Mueller’s final report was submitted on Friday to release his Sunday afternoon summary, in which he said he and Rosenstein concluded there was “not sufficient” evidence to bring such a charge. This new development reveals the two Justice Department officials had more time to reach this conclusion. It’s not clear how much of the evidence Barr and Rosenstein were shown before Friday.

Barr noted in his four-page letter that Mueller laid out the evidence on both sides of the obstruction question, stating that, “‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”

Lawmakers from both parties are still pushing for the full report to be released so the public can know exactly how Mueller determined that the Trump campaign did not coordinate with Russia in 2016, and his reasoning on the obstruction question.

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Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/mueller-told-barr-no-decision-obstruction

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Mueller Told Barr Three Weeks Ago He Wouldn't Reach Obstruction Conclusion (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2019 OP
Mueller should have forced Trump to be sworn under oath or take the 5th and because he did not press cstanleytech Mar 2019 #1
Don't assume Barr's spin on Mueller is accurate. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #5
I am simply saying that in respect for the whole obstruction aspect he appears to have done cstanleytech Mar 2019 #11
I don't see any reason to believe Barr's claim that Mueller was never blocked. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #12
You forget angrychair Mar 2019 #19
I agree with all of that. But I am not ready to condemn Mueller based on Barr's BS. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #22
Yup. zentrum Mar 2019 #8
I have been watching MSNBC and the pundits BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #17
Yet, several weeks ago it was reported that Barr had not spoken with Mueller. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #2
If you can't trust a fix, what can you trust? Turbineguy Mar 2019 #3
That explains how they knew the end of the investigation was looming FBaggins Mar 2019 #4
Come on now. What bullshit! DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #6
This so-called investigation was a white wash. rockfordfile Mar 2019 #13
+1 That's right, plain and simple. nt DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #20
Just Like Comey Staying Silent On Russian Penetration & Shouting DallasNE Mar 2019 #15
And now we have the traitor and the gop ready to start new investigations DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #21
So tRump knew 3 weeks ago that he would get off scot-free yaesu Mar 2019 #7
Well if he can't then i'm sure bluestarone Mar 2019 #9
Are we still trusting reports based on unidentified "sources"? When will we learn? onenote Mar 2019 #10
Did Mueller tell Barr, or did Barr tell Mueller not to bother with a decision on obstruction? Lonestarblue Mar 2019 #14
If the report exonerates trump, then rethugs have no reason not iluvtennis Mar 2019 #16
Sorry...but republicans are republicans. Basement Beat Mar 2019 #18

cstanleytech

(26,318 posts)
1. Mueller should have forced Trump to be sworn under oath or take the 5th and because he did not press
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:08 PM
Mar 2019

it he failed this nation imo.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. Don't assume Barr's spin on Mueller is accurate.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:22 PM
Mar 2019

The truth will emerge, and it won't be favorable to Barr.

cstanleytech

(26,318 posts)
11. I am simply saying that in respect for the whole obstruction aspect he appears to have done
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:57 PM
Mar 2019

a disservice to the country as he should have pressed Trump to testify or face the potential consequences for refusing.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. I don't see any reason to believe Barr's claim that Mueller was never blocked.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 04:21 PM
Mar 2019

That remains to be seen.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
19. You forget
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:05 PM
Mar 2019

That Mueller is a Republican.

Rosenstein is a Republican.

Barr is a Republican.

The law to create a Special Counsel is absurd on its face: it gives full control of the investigation to an appointee of the person being investigated.

We have a law, written by a Republican, to allow a bunch of Republicans to investigate some other Republicans and say "we are all innocent. Investigation complete. Bonus for everyone."

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
17. I have been watching MSNBC and the pundits
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 05:17 PM
Mar 2019

have ALL been saying they do not understand why Mueller didn't have him testify. None of them can figure out why and they worked with the guy in the past and respect him. This is why Mueller must testify as well as releasing the entire report.

Some are also saying that Rosenstein may have been protecting himself from obstruction charges by working on this "summary and release" with Barr.

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
4. That explains how they knew the end of the investigation was looming
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:14 PM
Mar 2019

It probably also explains why they were optimistic re: "no collusion". Obviously, if there was going to be a charge of collusion made, then it would be pretty hard to deny obstruction given just what was public.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
6. Come on now. What bullshit!
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:23 PM
Mar 2019

mueller couldn't reach a conclusion on OBSTRUCTION???

We all read and saw enough evidence with our own eyes but mueller, with a room full of attorneys and the power of special counsel couldn't find evidence of obstruction.

Ask yourself, be honest, no one else has to know your answer but you - what does all this tell you?

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
13. This so-called investigation was a white wash.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 04:30 PM
Mar 2019

Mueller a republican and Barr a republican. The history is that Republicans don't prosecute Republicans.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
15. Just Like Comey Staying Silent On Russian Penetration & Shouting
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 04:47 PM
Mar 2019

New Clinton email uncovered when all he had was an old backup file that might have some of the email Clinton deleted before turning her server over to the FBI. On a scale of 1-10 the Russian interference was a 10 and the Clinton email was a 1.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
21. And now we have the traitor and the gop ready to start new investigations
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:11 AM
Mar 2019

Into Clinton! Obama! Everyone with a (D) after their name, it seems.

The first phase of the dictatorship is over. They've cemented control over all branches of government. Next phase is when they start jailing their opposition over false or "trump"ed up charges. By then, we Democrats will have to escape across the border to run a government in exile. Just like Germany in the 1930s.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
7. So tRump knew 3 weeks ago that he would get off scot-free
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:27 PM
Mar 2019

I wondered why he had that extra snap in his walk back then.

Lonestarblue

(10,053 posts)
14. Did Mueller tell Barr, or did Barr tell Mueller not to bother with a decision on obstruction?
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 04:40 PM
Mar 2019

Barr was appointed for a reason, and he has lived up to expectations. I can only hope that we have a patriot somewhere who will leak the full report. Otherwise, we will not know the truth.

Another question I have is what happened to the counterintelligence investigation. Is Trump a Russian asset or not? He sure acts like one.

iluvtennis

(19,868 posts)
16. If the report exonerates trump, then rethugs have no reason not
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 04:54 PM
Mar 2019

to release it to the public. I won’t hold my breath for the rethugs to do the right thing

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