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riversedge

(70,270 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 10:11 PM Mar 2019

Justice Department now says courts should strike the entire ACA

Source: axios





Sam Baker 50 mins ago


The Justice Department now says the courts should strike down the entire Affordable Care Act — not just its protections for pre-existing conditions. The department signaled its new, broader position in a legal filing Monday, part of a lawsuit challenging the law's individual insurance mandate.

Why it matters: A ruling striking down the entire ACA would upend major parts of the health care system. Millions of people would lose their health care coverage, and a host of seemingly unrelated policies — including new experiments in how Medicare pays for care and an entire class of prescription drugs — would also go out the window.

How it works: A federal judge ruled in December that the ACA's individual mandate has become unconstitutional, because of the way Republicans zeroed out the penalty for being uninsured.

He said the entire ACA had to fall along with the mandate —.........................
At the time, ..........................

What's next: The case is pending before the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals — the most conservative appeals court in the country. From there it would go to the Supreme Court..................................

Read more: https://www.axios.com/justice-trump-court-affordable-care-act-unconstitutional-ab8bf281-65fc-4b91-8606-d1f3f65818d6.html



Cruel. And the Repugs have nothing to replace it with. damn. Just remember-this is Trumps DOJ!





Axios
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JUST IN: In a new filing, the Justice Department now says the courts should strike down the entire Affordable Care Act — not just its protections for pre-existing conditions.


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Justice Department now says courts should strike the entire ACA (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2019 OP
t-rump's supporters will lose thier medicals. . . . Iliyah Mar 2019 #1
"Huh-huh-huh, Trump's gonna own dem libs again! Hee-hee-wheeze! My chest! Glurk! Thump." Efilroft Sul Mar 2019 #3
Medicare is already feeling the effect of the changes tRump has begun to make. pazzyanne Mar 2019 #11
Ever hear or read of OSCAR HEALTH, guess who has his fingers in that plan, Joshua Kuscher turbinetree Mar 2019 #15
Thanks for the heads-up. pazzyanne Mar 2019 #21
It saddens me, that you and millions of others have to get a supplemental plan turbinetree Mar 2019 #22
All $$$ are per month, pazzyanne Mar 2019 #23
I am also on Medicare and refuse to go into the supplemental programs.................. turbinetree Mar 2019 #24
Totally agree with you about the need for Medicaid/ Medicare for all! pazzyanne Mar 2019 #25
Wado...................Thank you turbinetree Mar 2019 #26
They already tried this and lost DeminPennswoods Mar 2019 #2
This shows how out of touch with reality Trump is. RDANGELO Mar 2019 #4
This Is Hubris Vogon_Glory Mar 2019 #5
This should be a campaign issue for every Democrat dalton99a Mar 2019 #6
This should be THE campaign issue for every Democrat. BadgerMom Mar 2019 #8
Medicare for all instead sounds good Tech Mar 2019 #7
They're trying to change the subject...again. C Moon Mar 2019 #9
Well it seems Traitor tRump really hates the American Middle Class Farmer-Rick Mar 2019 #10
December 16, 1773 roamer65 Mar 2019 #18
trump is trying to kill people rdking647 Mar 2019 #12
Peculiar that conservative Christians don't see their leaders as the Devil. JudyM Mar 2019 #13
An act of genocide against the American people. By the genocidal maniac party. n/t progree Mar 2019 #14
+1 n/t area51 Mar 2019 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author turbinetree Mar 2019 #16
This will be used against repukes on 2020 kimbutgar Mar 2019 #17
52 MILLION with PEC would lose their health care. Eh...just another day in Trumpville...... Bengus81 Mar 2019 #20
The bastards are pushing for gilded age 2.0 The_Casual_Observer Mar 2019 #27

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. t-rump's supporters will lose thier medicals. . . .
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 10:18 PM
Mar 2019

Besides other fellow Americans. Why do the Republicans hate us?

Efilroft Sul

(3,581 posts)
3. "Huh-huh-huh, Trump's gonna own dem libs again! Hee-hee-wheeze! My chest! Glurk! Thump."
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 10:32 PM
Mar 2019

The MAGAbillies will die just to see others suffer first.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
11. Medicare is already feeling the effect of the changes tRump has begun to make.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:58 AM
Mar 2019

Medicare Advantage plans are greatly impacted and are being replaced with tRumpcare Supplement plans that are more expensive and provide less coverage than Medicare Advantage plans did a year ago. My rural county had fewer health plans available and only one Medicare Advantage plan was available. The tRump care supplement plans look good on the surface, but don't stand up to close scrutiny. tRump is an insidious virus that is worming his way into everything that we had come to expect in our lives, from medical insurance, to protections for the natural world, to human rights. Like a virus he seems to be impervious to any attempts to neutralize him by usual means. While we are looking in one direction, his administration is attacking us from several other areas under the distraction of the first.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
21. Thanks for the heads-up.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:41 PM
Mar 2019

I spent some time reading about Oscar Health and then googled Joshua Kushner. That answered a lot of my questions about Oscar Health and the trumpcare Medicare Supplements. My insurance went from $70.00 for my Medicare Advantage plan in 2018 to $302.00 for 2019 if I stayed with my original insurance provider. Thankfully, BC/BS offered a Medicare advantage plan (offered in my county) that gives me same coverage for a dollar more than my 2018 coverage. I had to switch insurance providers to get it however.

turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
22. It saddens me, that you and millions of others have to get a supplemental plan
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:28 PM
Mar 2019

is that per year for the $302.00 or is that per month. I do not have the supplemental plan.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
23. All $$$ are per month,
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:58 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:12 PM - Edit history (1)

and add to those the $134 premium for Medicare. The trumpcare Medicare Supplement @ $437 per month was totally undoable for my income. At this time I pay $205 per month.

turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
24. I am also on Medicare and refuse to go into the supplemental programs..................
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:08 PM
Mar 2019

even with very bad heart condition.....................I pay 135 for Medicare, and for Part D, $30.70 per month, my social security income says no, and this is why we need Medicaid / Medicare for everyone, to compete against the million(s) dollar a year CEO like at United Health Care and others:

https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/payer/ceo-pay-2017-342-million-unitedhealth-molina-cigna-aetna


Aetna Chairman and CEO Mark Bertolini received $41 million in compensation last year, with $38.2 million of the package due to gains in value on restricted stock granted from 2013 to 2015 and on stock options he was awarded 10 years earlier and exercised during 2016. The total was up from $27.9 million in 2015.


https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/rankings-and-ratings/18-of-the-highest-paid-ceos-in-healthcare.html


pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
25. Totally agree with you about the need for Medicaid/ Medicare for all!
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:19 PM
Mar 2019

My Medicare Advantage covers prescriptions and lowers most copays to $10 for primary care and $30 for specialists. It is a little more costly up front, but I have many doctor and specialist appointments over the course of the year so it does pay for me to do it this way. I also live on Social Security so I understand the struggle.

Thanks again for the links. Very informative information.

DeminPennswoods

(15,289 posts)
2. They already tried this and lost
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 10:24 PM
Mar 2019

with CJ Roberts being the deciding vote. Do they think Roberts is going to reverse himself?

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
4. This shows how out of touch with reality Trump is.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 10:41 PM
Mar 2019

The main reason he lost the house is health care. This is his biggest weakness. He thinks he is going to run on the wall and killing the ACA.

Vogon_Glory

(9,127 posts)
5. This Is Hubris
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 10:51 PM
Mar 2019

Those whom the gods would destroy they first make mad. Did Orange Julius learn ANYTHING from 2018?

I suspect that killing or even threatening the ACA would not only bring Democrats out in droves but might even inspire some of the Trump Chumps to either stay home or even vote for our people.

Farmer-Rick

(10,197 posts)
10. Well it seems Traitor tRump really hates the American Middle Class
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:54 AM
Mar 2019

First Trump takes away our tax exemptions and gives them to the infinitely greedy rich men who hate democracy. That personal exemption that you use to get is now going to people like Bill Gates and the Waltons. That's over $4,000 from every middle class person in the US going into the hands of the Koch brothers and Zuckerberg every year from now on.

Then he is going to make health care a game of chance again. Let's roll the dice, will your health insurance corporation let you get the medical attention you need at a livable cost? Or will they more likely claim pre-existing condition and charge you more than you can make in a lifetime? Or will you die from your disease before you are even halfway through fighting with the greedy bastards? Roll the dice and see if you survive this time around.

Welcome to tRump's and Putin's America a great place for mobsters, Nazis and criminals but I wouldn't want to live there. Ever wonder why our birth rate is dropping? it's because of this kind of crap.

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