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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:14 PM Mar 2019

WH Pushes For Obama Probes: Those Who Want To Move On 'Got This Party Started'

Source: Talking Points Memo



By Nicole Lafond
March 26, 2019 11:08 am

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway joined Sen. Lindsey Graham in his calls for an investigation into the FBI’s handling of the infamous dossier, but took it one step further by pushing for a probe into the Obama administration’s handling of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

“I think we ought to know what happened in that last administration. What we do know didn’t happen is that the Obama administration and the President himself knew that Russia was trying to interfere in our election and did nothing about it,” she said, despite the fact that former President Barack Obama issued sanctions against Russia over interference in the election.

“Why did they do nothing about it is because they were sure Hillary would win, or they didn’t want to deal with it in the last months of their administration,” she continued. “So sure, let’s at least see who did what when because had she gotten elected we would never know any of this. … Those who want to move on, they got this party started. They had the phony dossier and have gone from there so let’s let it all hang out and we’re patient people we’ll be here for the next six years. so let’s at least take the time so that America gets the full story.”




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WH Pushes For Obama Probes: Those Who Want To Move On 'Got This Party Started' (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2019 OP
OK Kellyanne leftieNanner Mar 2019 #1
Let's ask McConnell!!!!! Freethinker65 Mar 2019 #2
Disgusting Nazi tactics. What they neglect to say is that the Obama administration..... George II Mar 2019 #3
They know what pisses us off! bluestarone Mar 2019 #4
Yep. This may be Trump's Waterloo. maryallen Mar 2019 #22
I say bring it on and embarrass the crap out of the repukes! kimbutgar Mar 2019 #5
Like I said DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #6
I've known lots of gay men over the years..some are women haters... Lindsey is one of them Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #7
Republicans are such swine they will use anything they can LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #8
They are ruthless and have no shame awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #9
It's kind of funny how on the one hand the gop wants to move forward DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #10
Oh, the Hyprocrisy and Gaslighting Fla Dem Mar 2019 #11
McConnell said that if they went public with the information he Perrenial Voter Mar 2019 #29
The shrieking loon herself. GOP can cry all they want. It's another ploy. 58Sunliner Mar 2019 #12
Go ahead. NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #13
Gives new meaning to the term Trumped-up charge sandensea Mar 2019 #14
This country will not recover in my lifetime hibbing Mar 2019 #15
The GOP use these kinds of investigations to take air time up from other stories. LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #16
THIS BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #28
Fine. Give us the Muller report & evidence and we'll work back from there! nt Jarqui Mar 2019 #17
Careful what you ask for, assholes. louis-t Mar 2019 #18
Knock yourselves out, boys leftynyc Mar 2019 #19
That part will be classified information. All we'll know is that Obama knew in advance. PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #23
Pres Obama will absolutely leftynyc Mar 2019 #24
Obama should DEMAND to testify in Public..... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2019 #27
Go for it!!!! GoCubsGo Mar 2019 #20
What they will do is hold the investigation in the Senate... PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #21
And what will stop Democrats leftynyc Mar 2019 #25
Another distraction because of all the Trump investigations going on.... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2019 #26
Bring it on! DeminPennswoods Mar 2019 #30
please proceed.. stillcool Mar 2019 #31
so nothing happened with the russians..... Takket Mar 2019 #32

leftieNanner

(15,137 posts)
1. OK Kellyanne
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:17 PM
Mar 2019

Why don't you go have a chat with Mitch and ask him why he blocked the bipartisan statement from the Obama administration notifying us of the Russian interference?

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. Disgusting Nazi tactics. What they neglect to say is that the Obama administration.....
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:23 PM
Mar 2019

....advised both campaigns that it was going on and they began investigating. Why do you think they got a FISA warrant to "wiretapp" [sic] trump tower? The wire taps were for phones in the headquarters of the Russian bank in that building (coincidence?).

maryallen

(2,172 posts)
22. Yep. This may be Trump's Waterloo.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:47 PM
Mar 2019

There are a lot of people in this country who will not take this move lightly. I think many will express their opinions loudly.

kimbutgar

(21,174 posts)
5. I say bring it on and embarrass the crap out of the repukes!
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:24 PM
Mar 2019

President Obama has more legitimacy than the orange maggot. He will be the truth teller we need to expose the Russian takeover of the orange maggot.


Remember the old adage, be careful what you wish for.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
6. Like I said
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:25 PM
Mar 2019

They've completed their takeover of government and now it's time to start prosecuting the opposition.

hitler would be very proud.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
8. Republicans are such swine they will use anything they can
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:29 PM
Mar 2019

As well as any angle. Like going after Obama for not protecting the country against Russian interference earlier. AFTER THE FACT. The epitome of having your cake and eating it too. No shame at all. Considering that McConnell refused to do it in a bi-partisan way (obviously because Russia was helping HIS party and not THEIRS)

But they know where to hit where it hurts. Because I agree...that Obama should have, in hindsight, raised the alarm more even if it was him with heads of all the intelligence agencies standing behind him on stage backing him up. Make it a media event as dire as Bush's (both) war pronouncements. Fuck Mitch if he didn't want to be there. In fact a more aggressive Obama would have during that presser, called out McConnell for not being there. I just knew after Trump "won" that they would use that against Obama, and by extension all Democrats.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
9. They are ruthless and have no shame
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:29 PM
Mar 2019

Dems need to take off the gloves.

**** the "when they go low we go high" sillyness.

The gop is now unified and emboldened by the Barr opinion letter. Those in the gop who may had been closet "never trumpers" will now throw their full support behind trump.

No time to sulk and give up. Time to wake up, get very well informed and help counter the propaganda which will not only come from the usual suspects like brainfart and fox news but from CNN and other DINOs.





 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
10. It's kind of funny how on the one hand the gop wants to move forward
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:33 PM
Mar 2019

It's kind of funny how on the one hand the gop wants to move forward from the mueller "probe" while at the same time they want to go backward into the Obama administration, don't you think?

Fla Dem

(23,723 posts)
11. Oh, the Hyprocrisy and Gaslighting
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:33 PM
Mar 2019
Why Didn’t Obama Reveal Intel About Russia’s Influence on the Election?
His decision may have cost Clinton the presidency.

KAVEH WADDELL
DEC 11, 2016

<<<snip>>>

If that’s true, why didn’t the Obama administration push to release it earlier?

For one, the White House was probably afraid of looking like it was tipping the scale in Hillary Clinton’s favor, especially in an election that her opponent repeatedly described as rigged. Though Obama stumped for Clinton around the country, the administration didn’t want to open him up to attacks that he unfairly used intelligence to undermine Trump’s campaign, the Post reported.

Instead, top White House officials gathered key lawmakers—leadership from the House and Senate, plus the top Democrats and Republicans from both houses’ intelligence and homeland security committees—to ask for a bipartisan condemnation of Russia’s meddling. The effort was stymied by several Republicans who weren’t willing to cooperate, including, reportedly, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. (On Sunday morning, a bipartisan statement condemning the hacks came from incoming Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Jack Reed, a Democrat, and Republicans John McCain and Lindsey Graham.)

Snip>>>
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/12/why-didnt-obama-reveal-intel-about-russias-influence-on-the-election/510242/
 

Perrenial Voter

(173 posts)
29. McConnell said that if they went public with the information he
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:16 PM
Mar 2019

would claim that it was a partisan disinformation campaign.

sandensea

(21,650 posts)
14. Gives new meaning to the term Trumped-up charge
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:49 PM
Mar 2019

A lot of these pseudo-fascist regimes are doing this.

Trump's old friend in Argentina, the neocon-backed Mauricio Macri, has spent most of his 3 years in office going after his predecessor, and her former officials, on mostly unsubstantiated charges.

But because God has a sense of humor, the extortionist they were using to extract false testimony from said officials and others (Marcelo d'Alessio), was recently caught on 22 hours of audio tape by one of his own victims boasting of not only coercing people, but also of extracting (in his words) $12 million in ransom payments from them just since August.

Ransom from what? From having their names dragged through the mud by the Clarín Group - the Faux News of Argentina.

My guess is that Cheeto's people and Murdoch's have been colluding on the very same thing.

But like his pal Macri, it won't save him.

hibbing

(10,103 posts)
15. This country will not recover in my lifetime
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:00 PM
Mar 2019

Now the courts will get rid of the Affordable Care Act, 20 million plus will lose insurance. The environmental regulations have been gutted, the list goes on and on. Next up Social Security and Medicare, both probably ruined by the time I need them.

Whoopie

Peace

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
16. The GOP use these kinds of investigations to take air time up from other stories.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:03 PM
Mar 2019

Because it is proven over and over that the Big Lie, perfected in Nazi Germany, actually does work. Years and years of bogus Clinton investigations, both Bill and Hillary, set the table for Hillary losing. None of those investigations costing millions of taxpayer money, and taking up hours and hours of government time, ever proved any serious wrong doing. But even with no actual fire, there was so much smoke created that many Americans were convinced that the Clintons were deviously criminal in some way.

So why not try it again? Not only keep the publics eyes from any Trump scandal, or from what the GOP are passing in the Senate, and keeping the MSM focused on another shiny bobble, keep their fickle attention until the next election, and keep Democrats on the defensive. It makes no difference if they eventually have a ruling in their favour, nor even if there is any conclusion found.

It is a gift in a way to the MSM news networks, especially Fox News of course. It gives them a way to start to even out the playing field, bring Trumps numbers up, or Democrats down. It doesn't matter as long as there is a horse race by November of 2020

BumRushDaShow

(129,315 posts)
28. THIS
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:49 PM
Mar 2019

They have to control the news cycles because other things are going on that are really pretty bad for the GOP -

1.) The economy is on the precipice of a reversal back into a recession
2.) Dozens of investigations are kicking off - not just federal - but at the state levels, which are unpardonable
3.) Mother Nature is angry and there are costly disasters ongoing right now (just saw that the Mississippi River has now started flooding, exasperating what the Missouri River has already done) and we haven't even gotten to hurricane season yet

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
19. Knock yourselves out, boys
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:25 PM
Mar 2019

I can't wait for Pres Obama to explain how McConnell refused to allow him to do anything bipartisan about it. I literally cannot wait.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
23. That part will be classified information. All we'll know is that Obama knew in advance.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:49 PM
Mar 2019

We'll know that he told everyone, but they were sworn to secrecy not to say anything about it due to being so close to the election. They won't say a damn word about McConnell's threats.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
24. Pres Obama will absolutely
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:17 PM
Mar 2019

say something. It's actually pretty common knowledge to those who don't kill their brain cells watching fox.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
27. Obama should DEMAND to testify in Public.....
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:23 PM
Mar 2019

If subpoenaed to come before the Senate. No behind closed doors. Then we get to see Republicans squirm in their seats as the ever calm and cool Pres. Obama speaks.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
20. Go for it!!!!
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:38 PM
Mar 2019

And, just make sure you report your findings accurately, and don't cover them up and distort them, the way you are doing with the Mueller investigation. We want the American people to see what lying, tax dollar-wasting sack of shit all y'all are.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
21. What they will do is hold the investigation in the Senate...
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:45 PM
Mar 2019

there they require the parties to give private testimony. The Republicans, who are in charge, will only leak out what details they want that will hurt the Democrats. The statements by Mitch McConnell will be deemed a matter of national security and classified. Therefore the Republicans will win again.

I hate to be a doom and gloomer, but that is how they play the game. That is how they freaking win every time and I'm getting sick of it. How can Lindsey Graham be bitching about the Steele dossier when the first time he saw it, not even knowing the Democrats already saw it, he told McCain to turn it over to the FBI which is what the Democrats did.

It doesn't matter who started the investigation based on the Steele dossier, because whoever thought they found it first, Democrats or Republicans, would have turned it over to the FBI anyway. JFC!!!

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
25. And what will stop Democrats
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:18 PM
Mar 2019

from doing their own leaking? If they try that nonsense we can do the same thing we're going to do with the Mueller report they don't want to release - WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
26. Another distraction because of all the Trump investigations going on....
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:22 PM
Mar 2019

from the SDNY, the states of New York, New Jersey, and elsewhere Trump has properties and does business. Follow the money, people.

Trumpty is not off the hook.

DeminPennswoods

(15,289 posts)
30. Bring it on!
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:27 PM
Mar 2019

Let's find out why McConnell and Ryan refused to sign on to the bi-partisan statement Obama wanted to put out advising Americans of what was happening.

Let's find why the alternative warning that Obama had to issue through DHS' Jeh Johnson was almost immediately overshadowed by the release of DNC/Podesta emails.

Takket

(21,608 posts)
32. so nothing happened with the russians.....
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:09 PM
Mar 2019

but let's interview obama about what happened with the Russians.

they want to have their cake and eat it too.

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