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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 12:38 PM Mar 2019

Trump Says Russian Military Must Leave Venezuela: 'All Options Are Open'

Source: Haaretz/Reuters



'Russia has to get out,' U.S. President Donald Trump told reporters during a meeting with the wife of Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido

Reuters
Mar 27, 2019 5:52 PM

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that Russian soldiers needed to leave Venezuela, days after a Russian military contingent arrived just outside of Caracas, saying "all options" were open to make that happen.

"Russia has to get out," Trump told reporters during a meeting with the wife of Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido - who he called "the first lady of Venezuela." Asked how that could be accomplished, Trump said: "We'll see. All options are open."

Trump and Vice President Mike Pence met with Fabiana Rosales to express support for her husband, who invoked the constitution to assume the interim presidency in January, saying President Nicolas Maduro's re-election was not legitimate.

"The United States views Russia's arrival of military planes this weekend as an unwelcome provocation," Pence told reporters.


Read more: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-says-russian-military-must-leave-venezuela-1.7063403

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Trump Says Russian Military Must Leave Venezuela: 'All Options Are Open' (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2019 OP
Lol there is no chance Trump bites the hand that feeds him. bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #1
yeah but with his buddy (sugar daddy putin) Locrian Mar 2019 #2
Yeah, I immediately thought the same thing. watoos Mar 2019 #6
Actually we killed over 300 Russians in Syria... EX500rider Mar 2019 #16
Holy shit, comrade. .99center Mar 2019 #22
And the sale of anti tank weapons to Ukraine? EX500rider Mar 2019 #23
I'm sure Trump was personally involved with that transaction. .99center Mar 2019 #24
I'm not saying he is tough on Russia, I just don't think Putin controls his actions.. EX500rider Mar 2019 #25
All Options Open -- means -- I Have No Clue C_U_L8R Mar 2019 #3
The constitutional 30 days for an interim Prez has passed. Miguel M Mar 2019 #4
so no comment qazplm135 Mar 2019 #5
Russia is an ally of Ven, and was invited by the actual Prez of Ven. Miguel M Mar 2019 #7
LMAO qazplm135 Mar 2019 #9
Huh? What does that even mean? Miguel M Mar 2019 #11
You tell him Miguel Farmer-Rick Mar 2019 #14
Thanks. Elliott Abrams, trying to ignore/deflect from their own gordian knot. (video) Miguel M Mar 2019 #15
Outstanding video, Miguel M. Clueless people owe it to themselves to listen to it right away, Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #19
Trump carried out Putin's plan very efficiently Farmer-Rick Mar 2019 #33
Let's start with Russia leaving our White House first. yonder Mar 2019 #8
Or what, Trumpy? You won't invite Vlad for a sleepover? yellowcanine Mar 2019 #10
Putin is still laughing. keithbvadu2 Mar 2019 #12
Putin is still winning. Lock him up. Mar 2019 #13
Easy peasy - trump will agree to withdraw US troops from S. Korea in exchange. howardmappel Mar 2019 #17
This is their annual spring Kabuki Theater production. Last two years it was Syria. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2019 #18
+1 dalton99a Apr 2019 #36
Did he say pretty please? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 #20
Putin that put Trump in where he's at now rockfordfile Mar 2019 #21
i wonder if trump will ever realize the putin is not his friend but a tool to be used? nah, Kurt V. Mar 2019 #26
Word salad, and bad word salad at that. Firestorm49 Mar 2019 #27
Must be "Lets pretend we are not in bed with Putin" time. cstanleytech Mar 2019 #28
Trump: 'Russia has to get out,' area51 Mar 2019 #29
I've been in touch with a friend in Caracas CabalPowered Mar 2019 #30
Ignoring the fact that Trump is president and all that goes with that Sapient Donkey Mar 2019 #31
Wow. How tough! Buzz Lightyear Mar 2019 #32
Kick ck4829 Apr 2019 #34
what is a "welcome provocation"? Demonaut Apr 2019 #35
time to deploy the faux brinkmanship 0rganism Apr 2019 #37
Keep the US out. bernie59 Apr 2019 #38

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
2. yeah but with his buddy (sugar daddy putin)
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 12:42 PM
Mar 2019

I wouldn't put it past them to stage some sort of distraction if needed

.99center

(1,237 posts)
22. Holy shit, comrade.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:50 PM
Mar 2019

Actually, they were killed in self defense when they attacked our base in Syria. What actions did Trump take in retaliation to Russia's bold attack against our troops in Syria? Zero, nada! In fact, he bowed to Putin months later in Helsinki.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/world/middleeast/american-commandos-russian-mercenaries-syria.html

American military officials repeatedly warned about the growing mass of troops. But Russian military officials said they had no control over the fighters assembling near the river — even though American surveillance equipment monitoring radio transmissions had revealed the ground force was speaking in Russian.

At 8:30 p.m., three Russian-made T-72 tanks — vehicles weighing nearly 50 tons and armed with 125-millimeter guns — moved within a mile of the Conoco plant. Bracing for an attack, the Green Berets prepared to launch the reaction force.

At the outpost, American soldiers watched a column of tanks and other armored vehicles turn and drive toward them around 10 p.m., emerging from a neighborhood of houses where they had tried to gather undetected.

A half-hour later, the Russian mercenaries and Syrian forces struck.

The Conoco outpost was hit with a mixture of tank fire, large artillery and mortar rounds, the documents show. The air was filled with dust and shrapnel. The American commandos took cover, then ran behind dirt berms to fire anti-tank missiles and machine guns at the advancing column of armored vehicles.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
24. I'm sure Trump was personally involved with that transaction.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 06:05 PM
Mar 2019

I'll ask again, what actions did Trump take in retaliation to Russia's attack against our troops in Syria? Has Trump ever mentioned it? If he's tough on Russia why wouldn't he codemn a large scale attack against our troops?

And why would you try to spin our troops defending themselves, as an aggressive action towards Russia?

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
25. I'm not saying he is tough on Russia, I just don't think Putin controls his actions..
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 06:11 PM
Mar 2019

...as much as most people here believe. I think Trump certainly has the power to cancel arm sales to the Ukraine.

 

Miguel M

(234 posts)
4. The constitutional 30 days for an interim Prez has passed.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 12:43 PM
Mar 2019

Guaido now has zero standing according to the constitution they used to claim the interim leadership.

To call Ms Rosales Venezuela’s First Lady is a joke. Unless one supports tRumpism/foreign intervention.


 

Miguel M

(234 posts)
7. Russia is an ally of Ven, and was invited by the actual Prez of Ven.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 12:49 PM
Mar 2019

Which intervention are you speaking of? Russian intervention in the USA elections?

 

Miguel M

(234 posts)
11. Huh? What does that even mean?
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 01:23 PM
Mar 2019

Factual info too much for you? Buckle up for an interesting ride on the tRump train.


 

Miguel M

(234 posts)
15. Thanks. Elliott Abrams, trying to ignore/deflect from their own gordian knot. (video)
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 03:06 PM
Mar 2019

Elliott Abrams Can't Explain Why Guaido Is President As The US' Venezuela Narrative Deteriorates

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Judi Lynn

(160,592 posts)
19. Outstanding video, Miguel M. Clueless people owe it to themselves to listen to it right away,
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 04:34 PM
Mar 2019

and people who have been following whatever actual info. they can find will be confirmed.

Thank you for sharing!

Farmer-Rick

(10,197 posts)
33. Trump carried out Putin's plan very efficiently
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 10:01 AM
Mar 2019

Now, let's see if Russia can put troops in Cuba? Do you think the GOP or anus mouth would do anything abut it...even if they put missiles in Cuba? I don't think so.

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said Russia is militarily ready for a Cuban Missile-style crisis if the United States wanted one and threatened to place hypersonic nuclear missiles on ships or submarines near U.S. territorial waters.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-putin/putin-to-u-s-im-ready-for-another-cuban-missile-style-crisis-if-you-want-one-idUSKCN1QA1A3

Lock him up.

(6,939 posts)
13. Putin is still winning.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 01:50 PM
Mar 2019

Hurry up Congress. Kabuki theater to create a smoke and mirrors (bad) $how.

Lock the orange mob boss before he pushes the wrong buttons...

howardmappel

(80 posts)
17. Easy peasy - trump will agree to withdraw US troops from S. Korea in exchange.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 03:55 PM
Mar 2019

Normally, that would be a ridiculous idea, but I can see Trump doing it and calling it a win in both Ven and N. Korea.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,189 posts)
18. This is their annual spring Kabuki Theater production. Last two years it was Syria.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 03:59 PM
Mar 2019

This year it's Venezuela.

Trump and Putin need to have something they disagree upon to prove to the world they aren't on the same page on things.

And it always happens in Spring, for whatever reason.

In the end, there will be some tough talk and maybe some token action until the next news cycle, when it's all forgotten.

How many people still remember us bombing empty Syrian airfields twice (after we had notified the Russians of our plans, no less)?

Exactly.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
26. i wonder if trump will ever realize the putin is not his friend but a tool to be used? nah,
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 06:16 PM
Mar 2019

not while the money laundering is going so well.

CabalPowered

(12,690 posts)
30. I've been in touch with a friend in Caracas
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 12:05 AM
Mar 2019

She says the situation is really scary. The blackouts are lasting for days. People are starving and refrigerating food is accomplished with bags of ice. A small bag goes for $5 and they only accept dollars. Convoys of troops have been passing through her neighborhood in recent evenings. But she had not heard that Russian troops had landed. Her statement something to the effect.. "that can't be good".

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
31. Ignoring the fact that Trump is president and all that goes with that
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:10 AM
Mar 2019

What is the basis for the statement that Russian troops must leave the country? I'm not defending Maduro or Russian support of Maduro. In fact, I think Russia should remove its troops and pressure Maduro to step down. Much like they should have done in Syria with Assad. But what I think or what anyone else wants may not be in the interest of Maduro or the Russians. So it's expected that Maduro would take actions like requesting Russian support in order to stay in power, and it's expected Russia would do what it feels it has to do to keep their buddy in power. I also understand why the US and certain other countries want Maduro ousted and support the protests and opposition against him. However, what I take issue with is the word 'must'. Why must they? That sounds a lot like a "do it or else" type of statement. What is the argument for why the US or any other nation should be able to make such demands? Is it something that is really worth backing up with action?



0rganism

(23,962 posts)
37. time to deploy the faux brinkmanship
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:42 PM
Apr 2019

create a fake showdown with the Russians

they back down

Trump claims a huge victory, struts and preens for the press, boosts his poll numbers.

Putin laughs.

 

bernie59

(87 posts)
38. Keep the US out.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:46 PM
Apr 2019

If we hadn't stuck our nose in it, Russia wouldn't be there. Venezuela was not our ally before anyhow.

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