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brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 01:35 PM Mar 2019

The share of Americans not having sex has reached a record high

Source: Washington Post

The share of U.S. adults reporting no sex in the past year reached an all-time high in 2018, underscoring a three-decade trend line marked by an aging population and higher numbers of unattached people.

But among the 23 percent of adults — or nearly 1 in 4 — who spent the year in a celibate state, a much larger than expected number of them were twentysomething men, according to the latest data from the General Social Survey.

Experts who study Americans’ bedroom habits say there are a number of factors driving the Great American Sex Drought. Age is one of them: The 60 and older demographic climbed from 18 percent of the population in 1996 to 26 percent in 2018, according to the survey. The share reporting no sex has consistently hovered around 50 percent, and because that age group is growing relative to everyone else, it has the net effect of reducing the overall population’s likelihood of having sex.

But changes at the other end of the age spectrum may be playing an even bigger role. The portion of Americans 18 to 29 reporting no sex in the past year more than doubled between 2008 and 2018, to 23 percent.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/

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The share of Americans not having sex has reached a record high (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2019 OP
I wonder if these sexless men are orange maggot supporters kimbutgar Mar 2019 #1
So being celibate makes someone a bad person? Rizen Mar 2019 #37
Maybe you need to turn that mirror back to yourself for that comment kimbutgar Mar 2019 #39
Trump's base Downtown Hound Mar 2019 #2
Incels Fritz67 Mar 2019 #11
Yes, the incels and MRAs weighed in heavily in the comment section. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #19
I read "unattached" as unattractive at first in that first paragraph JI7 Mar 2019 #3
I am so glad I'm not the only one who did that. Pacifist Patriot Mar 2019 #5
better than making kids they can't support nt msongs Mar 2019 #4
Yes. LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #31
Are immigrants stealing all the sex partners too? IronLionZion Mar 2019 #6
They didn't have sex in a year? INtentionally? Maxheader Mar 2019 #7
I don't think the article speaks directly about the intentionality. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #14
My bad...I know there are reasons for what people do... Maxheader Mar 2019 #18
And bless you as well. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #46
I went without for over a year once... rownesheck Mar 2019 #23
imagine that... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #8
Latin men are doing.... machoneman Mar 2019 #9
I had all the sex. Sorry! iscooterliberally Mar 2019 #10
Too wrapped up in playing video games? GoCubsGo Mar 2019 #12
Yep. I am sure it is why teens are having less sex. SunSeeker Mar 2019 #15
The last 10 years has changed immensely from a social standpoint because of the internet ansible Mar 2019 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #13
They mean no sex with another person, right? bluedigger Mar 2019 #16
Rosy Palm? DashOneBravo Mar 2019 #27
"Smoke on the water, fire in the sky" ... incels Miigwech Mar 2019 #17
"Sex drought", weird how this is framed as a problem, but is it, really? ck4829 Mar 2019 #20
Sadly it is, young, aggressive men who aren't getting any become extremely violent and dangerous ansible Mar 2019 #21
Ah, but they believe everyone is having sex but them ck4829 Mar 2019 #22
Elliot's an interesting case and there's a huge incel movement dedicated to him ansible Mar 2019 #33
And, you just blamed women and don't even get you did obamanut2012 Mar 2019 #24
Just of our curiosity, what's your theory, then, on why the vast majority of violent crime ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #28
Personally for me, as someone with a background in sociology, I believe in nurture over nature ck4829 Mar 2019 #30
Not a "celibate" state LogicFirst Mar 2019 #25
As do healthy females n/t TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #42
Maybe this is why people are so angry. madaboutharry Mar 2019 #26
Well, as a dedicated patriotic Democrat ... CaptainTruth Mar 2019 #29
Increased anxiety and exhaustion? haele Mar 2019 #34
Excellent news! Maybe the birth rates will start to plummet as a result. The_jackalope Mar 2019 #35
It has to do with Hillary's emails Bayard Mar 2019 #36
It's disgusting how celibate people are discriminated against Rizen Mar 2019 #38
Perhaps more Americans should become nurses? Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #40
HOW are they defining "sex"?! Doing it with ones self is a sexual act FYI !! Just because Kashkakat v.2.0 Mar 2019 #41
I self satisfy and don't mind the word celibate TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #43
Now Im really confused -looked up "celibate" and it seems to mean unmarried and not non-sexual as I Kashkakat v.2.0 Mar 2019 #44
Unfortunately people like Trump's idiot children are and DeminPennswoods Mar 2019 #45

kimbutgar

(21,148 posts)
1. I wonder if these sexless men are orange maggot supporters
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 01:36 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Fri Mar 29, 2019, 03:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Could explain why they are mean and hateful. DSB deadly sperm buildup.

Rizen

(708 posts)
37. So being celibate makes someone a bad person?
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 02:04 PM
Mar 2019

If you want to see someone mean and hateful look in the mirror.

kimbutgar

(21,148 posts)
39. Maybe you need to turn that mirror back to yourself for that comment
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 02:10 PM
Mar 2019

But I guess my comment tells me a lot about you.

Oh and I am not celibate either.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
2. Trump's base
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 01:38 PM
Mar 2019

And while I am sort of joking, it's only sort of. The few Trumpers I know are chronically single, frustrated white men who are terribly afraid of women and the world around them. Of course they would never admit it, but I know them well enough for it to be true.

Fritz67

(353 posts)
11. Incels
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 04:36 PM
Mar 2019

There are entire internet communities of "incels" (short for "involuntarily celebate&quot --sexist assholes who are angry that despite their rotten personalities virgin supermodels are not throwing themselves at them. They all seem to love the Dumpster.

If you're brave enough to learn more, a couple of places that adequately skewer them (along with other sexist assholes):
We Hunted The Mammoth

Sexists Say The Darndest Things

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. Yes, the incels and MRAs weighed in heavily in the comment section.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 06:59 PM
Mar 2019

It was almost funny, but really it was just pathetic. If only they knew what they sounded like to normal people. And for some reason, they can't seem to understand why women want nothing to do with them. Their misogyny is so blatant that no woman in her right mind would ever give them the time of day. I almost couldn't believe some of the things I was reading. They were that ridiculous.

Unfortunately, I really think men (boys) like that are a danger to society, and I think the republican party has more than it's fair share of them. A number of people in the comment section quoted the statistic in the article that of those young men who reported being celibate over the past year (or longer) over 85% reported being republican, conservative or evangelical. I think sexual frustration is a component of some of this rage they then turn out toward society at large.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
3. I read "unattached" as unattractive at first in that first paragraph
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 01:40 PM
Mar 2019

it's becsuse of social media and just the internet in general.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
6. Are immigrants stealing all the sex partners too?
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 01:54 PM
Mar 2019

or is it feminists' fault this time? Affirmative consent is getting in the way?

I think it's very notable that young women are still having lots of sex, probably with each other. While a lot of sexless young men are apparently supporting Trump, joining women-free hate groups like the Proud Boys, and marching in rallies with tiki torches.

Those graphs also seem to show lots of sex during strong economic times, probably due to more marriages and starting families. In downtimes, many young people may feel it's worth saving money first.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. I don't think the article speaks directly about the intentionality.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 04:47 PM
Mar 2019

In my case, it's a conscious and challenging choice to stay with a mentally ill spouse.

Intentional? Well, that's a gray area.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
18. My bad...I know there are reasons for what people do...
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 06:50 PM
Mar 2019

I posted without thinking...

Bless you and your spouse..

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
8. imagine that...
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 02:53 PM
Mar 2019

You think it's cool to be the biggest, most vile asshat that ever existed in the most public way possible....

You don't care what you look like. You are obese and smell. You wear ratty red hats and drive around in a kkk mobile.

And it is obviously the woman's fault you can't get laid, and the dems fault you can't pay an illegal massage parlor to traffick a sex slave in for your pleasure.

Life's decisions getting you down, magarat? There is a second amendment solution with your name on it. Use it on yourself.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
15. Yep. I am sure it is why teens are having less sex.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 05:18 PM
Mar 2019

That's all teen boys want to do with their free time. It was never like that when I was a teen! I guess I am kinda relieved since I have a teen boy, so I'm not worried about him impregnating anyone. But still, to me, it is so weird.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
32. The last 10 years has changed immensely from a social standpoint because of the internet
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:39 AM
Mar 2019

Social media, online dating and Tinder for starters. There's a massive shitstorm just now because height verification is going to be introduced so guys under 6 feet are going to be filtered out. If you're under the age of 30 life is very, very different compared to what growing up when you were in the 20th century is like.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
21. Sadly it is, young, aggressive men who aren't getting any become extremely violent and dangerous
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 07:24 PM
Mar 2019

The incel movement turned from an internet joke to a literal terrorist threat nowadays.

ck4829

(35,076 posts)
22. Ah, but they believe everyone is having sex but them
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 07:32 PM
Mar 2019

I don't disagree that incels are a terrorist threat though, I've read Rodger's manifesto for example and they describe sex as some sort of panacea for their ills, the dividing line between man and boy, powerful and powerless, etc.

Sexual contact is described according to them as this sort of sacred thing, when the reality of it is, it's actually quite... mundane.

A growing number of Americans though, as described in this article are reflecting the mundane reality of sex, there are other things that can be done, more interesting. These people, men included, are looking at sex and going "meh", I think that's a big distinction from the incel who sees their lack of having sex as some sort of motivator for violence.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
33. Elliot's an interesting case and there's a huge incel movement dedicated to him
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:00 AM
Mar 2019

A lot of guys who still remain virgins into their late 20s and 30s have serious issues stemming from some sort of screwed up childhood that turn them into dangerous, bitter incels. They're just completely cut off from normal society in a way where they can't view sex as mundane and feel that being denied sex is like some massive attack on them from society. Unfortunately I have to deal with guys like this at work often and they're really damaged by it. Short of legalizing prostitution I have no idea how these kind of people can be fixed.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
24. And, you just blamed women and don't even get you did
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 08:57 PM
Mar 2019

Not "getting any" does not make anyone violent and dangerous and a terrorist. Being a sociopath does. These sociopaths just like to blame women for everything, and you did, too. So, do not, and rephrase that.

These sociopaths are almost always violent towards girls and women.

Women who do not "get any" do not do this. Male hormones, etc. do not make these boys and men kill girls and women. Being a sociopath does,

Please, quit validating their "excuses."

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
28. Just of our curiosity, what's your theory, then, on why the vast majority of violent crime ...
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:36 PM
Mar 2019

is committed by Males?

"Male hormones, etc. do not make these boys and men kill girls and women"

Apparently you have a different theory apart from 'hormones' as the culprit for what is quite obviously a massive disparity in violence levels when you contrast genders, so I'm asking honestly ... what would that theory be?

Obviously, getting or not getting sex probably doesn't really affect hormone levels, but if anything, I'd guess MORE sex probably raises 'male hormones', so ...

Personally I didn't think the poster was implying 'it's women's fault' ... though they definitely could've emphasized it's 'an excuse', which I wholly agree with

ck4829

(35,076 posts)
30. Personally for me, as someone with a background in sociology, I believe in nurture over nature
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:52 AM
Mar 2019

"Hormones" would be something pointing to nature.

I look at the nurture side of things. I don't disagree with you that there is a disparity, and I think disparities should always be pointed out. But I look at the socialization and learning processes that lead to this, our society creates a psychological problem platter with men to the point that I think being less privileged and making it without ending up in prison or dead can be something of an achievement.

Men are taught that there are things that make you strong and things that make you weak, and buddy, you do not want to do the things that make you weak. Men are taught to not express emotions because it is weak. Men are taught they are entitled to certain things just because they are men. Men are taught threats and violence are acceptable ways to get things that they think they are entitled to and do not get them. Men are taught that sex is something that divides a man from a boy, a winner from a loser, a strong individual from a weak individual, etc.

You combine all these things that men are taught, and continually reinforce them, what are you going to get?

Our media is saturated in violence, there's nothing natural about the media. We see violence normalized in many ways. For example, everything is a "war on" on one thing or another. War on drugs, war on terror, heck, if you say "Happy Holidays", you are waging a war on Christmas. It's really quite ridiculous.

We teach boys to be mercenaries, barbarians, and soldiers... then we wonder why they shoot at everyone else when they become men.

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
26. Maybe this is why people are so angry.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:34 PM
Mar 2019

I just can’t help think that people in general are impatient and angry everywhere now.

CaptainTruth

(6,591 posts)
29. Well, as a dedicated patriotic Democrat ...
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 12:19 AM
Mar 2019

... I have to admit that for the last couple years Trump's nonstop bullshit has interfered with the things I feel passionate about, like my music, writing, & of course other amorous activities.

Right now I'm working on changing all that...

haele

(12,654 posts)
34. Increased anxiety and exhaustion?
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:34 AM
Mar 2019

Also, people are getting less likely to put up with partners who want self-indulgent or angry sex just to keep a relationship based on patronage or expectations that being in a relationship means one is a "whole"person with social value.

Haele

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
35. Excellent news! Maybe the birth rates will start to plummet as a result.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:15 AM
Mar 2019

Hey, this planet won't depopulate itself, you know. Or maybe it will...

I'm rooting for the victory of Hans Selye's General Adaptation Syndrome, or maybe a Mouse Utopia (i.e. a Behavioral Sink) applied to humans.

There are approximately 7 billion too many humans on the planet. Anything that reduces our numbers gets my support. I'm an anti-natalist to the core.

Rizen

(708 posts)
38. It's disgusting how celibate people are discriminated against
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 02:09 PM
Mar 2019

That's nearly 25% of the population. Shame on anyone who calls them bad people for their life choices.

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
40. Perhaps more Americans should become nurses?
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 04:10 PM
Mar 2019


9 nurses are pregnant at Maine hospital at the same time

A baby boom is coming to the labor and delivery unit of a Maine hospital, where nine of its nurses will give birth to their babies around the same time, reports CNN.

The labor and delivery nurses at Maine Medical Center in Portland are all due between April and July.

"After each one of us started to say, 'We're pregnant,' I think it was a happier kind of announcement each time, and we're all there for each other," nurse Erin Grenier told CNN affiliate WMTW.

(snip)


https://www.thedailystar.net/world/news/9-nurses-are-pregnant-maine-hospital-the-same-time-1721560





Eleven nurses are pregnant at the same time at Memorial Hospital in South Bend

SOUTH BEND — Many of us may have seen a viral post about 9 nurses in Maine pregnant at the same time, but Memorial Hospital in South Bend is upping the ante. The facility has 11 nurses who are currently expecting.

After seeing the post about Maine, a local nurse said "Hold on, this title should go to us.

https://wsbt.com/news/local/eleven-nurses-are-pregnant-at-the-same-time-at-memorial-hospital-in-south-bend



Apparently the medical field is better than Viagra.

Thanks for the thread brooklynite.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
41. HOW are they defining "sex"?! Doing it with ones self is a sexual act FYI !! Just because
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:12 PM
Mar 2019

someone is single or unpartnered doesn't mean they're "celibate" or not having a satisfying (or reasonably so) sex life.

This has got to be the weirdest article Ive read in a long time. Do all these people literally go months, years without having an orgasm? Or do people (esp the young men mentioned in the article) get themselves off, but then are so hung up from religious indoctrination that they cant accept it as a positive experience? Either way, it would sure explain a lot about why the USA is so messed up!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,190 posts)
43. I self satisfy and don't mind the word celibate
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:30 PM
Mar 2019

I don't have a boyfriend and at 62, I'm not interested in casual sex. Now, I have a 51 year old married ex who is just as celibate as I am. Now THAT is a problem. Being single and celibate isn't.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
44. Now Im really confused -looked up "celibate" and it seems to mean unmarried and not non-sexual as I
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 11:02 AM
Mar 2019

had thought. Either this study was not very accurate or scientific ... or the author of the article wasn't as precise with language as they should be. "Not getting sex" - what the heck does that mean!

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