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brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:32 PM Apr 2019

Trump is removing US Secret Service director

Source: CNN

United States Secret Service director Randolph "Tex" Alles is being removed from his position, multiple administration officials tell CNN.

President Donald Trump instructed his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, to fire Alles. Alles remains in his position as of now but has been asked to leave.

The Secret Service director reports directly to the Secretary of Homeland Security, Kirstjen Nielsen, who resigned on Sunday amid growing pressure from the President. The director oversees the Secret Service's work on both protection and investigations.

"There is a near-systematic purge happening at the nation's second-largest national security agency," one senior administration official says.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics/randolph-tex-alles-secret-service-director/index.html



Guessing it's due to SS criticizing the "open door" policy at Mar-a-Lago.
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Trump is removing US Secret Service director (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2019 OP
"Purge" is the word. TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #1
Maybe. I believe Stalin preferred "liquidation." mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2019 #13
I know, if they didn't have the free access to Mar-A-Lago NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #2
Indeed, how do the Saudis get their diplomatic pouches to Trump and friends? Fred Sandman Apr 2019 #6
No ss will leave trump at maralago vulnerable. May be his own demise. Anyone can enter. notdarkyet Apr 2019 #17
We need some enterprising hackers NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #23
If anyone was not clear on IQ45's absolute cluelessness Leith Apr 2019 #3
Oh I can guess. tymorial Apr 2019 #22
Sure. Fire and piss off the people who have sworn to take a bullet for you over shit you created. politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2019 #32
He may be clueless but this asshole isn't - Mick Mulvaney - it seems that he will be Hestia Apr 2019 #34
Oh heck, go ahead and say it. KPN Apr 2019 #60
Not clueless at all. He's pissed his Chinese spy gal got caught by the SS, a spy he planted... machoneman Apr 2019 #41
I think Stephen Miller is calling all or most of these shots. Still In Wisconsin Apr 2019 #4
Yup. BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #9
Perfect analogy! n/t Still In Wisconsin Apr 2019 #58
He's going to install his own Praetorian Guard ChicagoRonin Apr 2019 #5
Purges were common in the Communist Party of the USSR Quemado Apr 2019 #7
I like the way you think. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2019 #18
We are all in very grave danger, our physical lives Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #29
Matty Calimari? johnnyfins Apr 2019 #8
Next Secret Service Head? johnnyfins Apr 2019 #10
Eric Prince . . . Iliyah Apr 2019 #11
THIS i wouldn't doubt!! bluestarone Apr 2019 #12
Purge. So now he can choose guards with loyalty only to him. Hekate Apr 2019 #14
Exactly. It all boils down to loyalty to him, not to the Office or the Constitution, but to him suffragette Apr 2019 #45
Yep. Related to the Chinese spy at Mar-A-Lago. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #15
I don't think so. The Chinese spy incident may only be the catalyst Brother Buzz Apr 2019 #40
??? Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #64
Stephen Miller wants Trump to oust more senior leaders at Homeland Security mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2019 #16
Appears to be on the path of . . . Iliyah Apr 2019 #21
Miller is tRump's Rasputin. KPN Apr 2019 #61
"There is a near-systematic purge happening....' within the entire pangaia Apr 2019 #19
All these firings are not signs that DJT is decisive. JohnnyRingo Apr 2019 #20
I guess its another job for Jared. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #24
Glad to see you posted this. murielm99 Apr 2019 #25
So Trump can turn the Secret Service into his own Gestapo? CaptainTruth Apr 2019 #26
Wouldn't this have the effect of making his detail less informed, less prepared? NurseJackie Apr 2019 #27
Lol! sheshe2 Apr 2019 #33
Sieg Heil Fuhrer tRump!!! NNYCDN51 Apr 2019 #28
Subcontract SS to Erik Prince vlyons Apr 2019 #30
Oh Eric PRICK...happy to help! Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #52
Trump mistakes loyalty for competance. Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #31
A serious purge is taking place a la stalin. pangaia Apr 2019 #35
This is not good. DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #36
Is he mad because... SHRED Apr 2019 #37
That's where my thoughts went. Harker Apr 2019 #42
Trump the Scatterbrain C_U_L8R Apr 2019 #38
He's a busy f*cker, today. Laurian Apr 2019 #39
Bending it all to his will bronxiteforever Apr 2019 #43
The rate that we are going downhill is accelerating. panader0 Apr 2019 #44
He is looking for Gestapo type minions, that's why he can't keep anyone SummerSnow Apr 2019 #46
Remember when the repugs screamed and cried about Bill Clinton's politically motivated Mc Mike Apr 2019 #47
Oh, yeah, Travel Office!!!!!! MyOwnPeace Apr 2019 #51
And the Travel Office had to coordinate its activities with the Secret Service, of course. Mc Mike Apr 2019 #53
I can't imagine being a SS agent and living with the thought of having to take a bullet catbyte Apr 2019 #48
I've had that thought a few times since Dolt 45 took office. Jedi Guy Apr 2019 #55
So, what Fox News personality will get this job? n/t Yavin4 Apr 2019 #49
Ooh. Ooh. jayschool2013 Apr 2019 #57
Nah. Tucker is way too rich to work for a living. Yavin4 Apr 2019 #62
The new guy will be named Ivan Somethingski. Nt lostnfound Apr 2019 #50
Great. Now he can testify to a house investigation committee. mahina Apr 2019 #54
I look forward to reading Mr. Alles's "tell-all" book FakeNoose Apr 2019 #59
I Hope he understands USSS isn't SS. Historic NY Apr 2019 #56
Trump had soured on Alles a while ago, even making fun of his looks, calling him Dumbo.... mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2019 #63
What a charmer mahina Apr 2019 #66
He's already got a new Secret Service director selected: LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2019 #65
Vladimir Antoly Maxheader Apr 2019 #67
Is a presidential pardon of Merde-del-Lagoon trespasser Yujing Zhang next? majdrfrtim Apr 2019 #68
Link to DW nitpicker Apr 2019 #69

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
13. Maybe. I believe Stalin preferred "liquidation."
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:47 PM
Apr 2019

Or perhaps dekulakization.

Dekulakization



A parade under the banners "We will liquidate the kulaks as a class" and "All to the struggle against the wreckers of agriculture".

Location: Soviet Union
Date: 1917–1933
Attack type: Classicide, mass murder, deportation, starvation
Deaths: Estimates from 530,000–600,000 to 5,000,000
Perpetrators: Secret police of the Soviet Union

Dekulakization (Russian: раскулачивание, raskulachivanie; Ukrainian: розкуркулення, rozkurkulennia) was the Soviet campaign of political repressions, including arrests, deportations, and executions of millions of prosperous peasants and their families in the 1929–1932 period of the First five-year plan. To facilitate the expropriations of farmland, the Soviet government portrayed kulaks as class enemies of the USSR.

More than 1.8 million peasants were deported in 1930–1931. The campaign had the stated purpose of fighting counter-revolution and of building socialism in the countryside. This policy, carried out simultaneously with collectivization in the Soviet Union, effectively brought all agriculture and all the peasants in Soviet Russia under state control.

Hunger, disease and mass executions during dekulakization led to at least 530,000 to 600,000 deaths from 1929 to 1933, though higher estimates also exist, with historian Robert Conquest estimating that as many as five million people may have died. The results soon became known outside the Soviet Union.

Dekulakization in 1917–1923

In November 1917, at a meeting of delegates of the committees of poor peasants, Lenin announced a new policy to eliminate supposedly wealthy Soviet peasants, known as "kulaks": "If the kulaks remain untouched, if we don't defeat the freeloaders, the czar and the capitalist will inevitably return." In July 1918, "Committees of the Poor" were created to represent poor peasants, which played an important role in the struggle against the kulaks, and led the process of redistribution of confiscated lands and inventory, food surpluses from the kulaks. This launched the beginning of a great crusade against grain speculators and kulaks. Before being dismissed in December 1918, the Committees had confiscated 50 million hectares of kulak land.

Dekulakization under Stalin

Joseph Stalin announced the "liquidation of the kulaks as a class" on 27 December 1929. Stalin had said: "Now we have the opportunity to carry out a resolute offensive against the kulaks, break their resistance, eliminate them as a class and replace their production with the production of kolkhozes and sovkhozes." The Politburo of the Central Committee of the Communist Party formalized the decision in a resolution titled "On measures for the elimination of kulak households in districts of comprehensive collectivization" on 30 January 1930. All kulaks were assigned to one of three categories:

1. Those to be shot or imprisoned as decided by the local secret political police
2. Those to be sent to Siberia, the North, the Urals or Kazakhstan, after confiscation of their property
3. Those to be evicted from their houses and used in labor colonies within their own districts

An OGPU secret-police functionary, Yefim Yevdokimov (1891–1939), played a major role in organizing and supervising the round-up of peasants and the mass executions.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
2. I know, if they didn't have the free access to Mar-A-Lago
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:34 PM
Apr 2019

How are they going to easily bribe Trump and his family?

Leith

(7,809 posts)
3. If anyone was not clear on IQ45's absolute cluelessness
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:35 PM
Apr 2019

here it is. Who the hell can guess what he is thinking?

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
22. Oh I can guess.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:58 PM
Apr 2019

He is thinking that he will do whatever the hell he wants and if you disagree, you are fired.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
32. Sure. Fire and piss off the people who have sworn to take a bullet for you over shit you created.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:19 PM
Apr 2019

Makes sense to me.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
34. He may be clueless but this asshole isn't - Mick Mulvaney - it seems that he will be
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:22 PM
Apr 2019

running the entire federal government. He needs to go! He is the Original Teabagger that helped to start the whole movement with Kock Bros and Americans For (Stealing Our) Prosperity.

All of these roads lead back to Mulvaney

Now, I am not saying to hack his life or anything, but I sure wouldn't be sad if he was hacked/doxxed/whatever and he has to leave.

Just saying...

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
41. Not clueless at all. He's pissed his Chinese spy gal got caught by the SS, a spy he planted...
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:32 PM
Apr 2019

in reply to a.) Ivanka's rapid trademark approvals b.) cash the Chinese gave to Trump c.) returning a favor to them for who knows what.

Maybe all three?

What a bonkers place to work in, eh?

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
4. I think Stephen Miller is calling all or most of these shots.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:36 PM
Apr 2019

Last edited Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:50 PM - Edit history (1)

That weasely little incel seems to be behind most of Trump's "purges."

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
45. Exactly. It all boils down to loyalty to him, not to the Office or the Constitution, but to him
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:46 PM
Apr 2019

specifically.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. Yep. Related to the Chinese spy at Mar-A-Lago.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:52 PM
Apr 2019

He's blaming them, I guess. And as usual, probably Trump himself is to blame. You pays your money, you gets to come in!

Brother Buzz

(36,433 posts)
40. I don't think so. The Chinese spy incident may only be the catalyst
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:30 PM
Apr 2019

Trump is preemptively removing him to put the kibosh on the investigation on the incident; he fears the lax accessibility protocol to the president will tightened, and even worse, a lists of of shady characters the orange one has met may come to light.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
64. ???
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:10 PM
Apr 2019

I have no idea what you mean. If you mean that firing people will keep his secrets, just the opposite is true. If they talk at all (and SS won't talk), it'd be after being removed from detail. But SS guys don't reveal secrets.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
16. Stephen Miller wants Trump to oust more senior leaders at Homeland Security
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:52 PM
Apr 2019
Stephen Miller wants Trump to oust more senior leaders at Homeland Security
By Priscilla Alvarez, Jake Tapper and Abby Phillip, CNN

Updated 12:17 PM ET, Mon April 8, 2019

Washington (CNN)--White House senior adviser Stephen Miller wants to make sure that outgoing Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen is only the first of a string of senior officials headed out the door.

Trump administration officials say that Miller, who played key a role in Nielsen's ouster, also wants the President to dismiss the director of United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, Lee Cissna, and the department's general counsel, John Mitnick.

A senior administration official also said that under the law, DHS Under Secretary of Management Claire Grady, the current acting deputy secretary, is next in line of succession to be acting secretary. That means there are questions as to whether she will need to be fired as well in order to make Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Kevin McAleenan the acting DHS secretary, as Trump tweeted Sunday night.

Miller's heightened influence within the West Wing has been aided by the President, who recently told aides in an Oval Office meeting that Miller was in charge of all immigration and border related issues in the White House, according to a person familiar with the meeting.
....

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
21. Appears to be on the path of . . .
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:57 PM
Apr 2019

harming the illegals to the highest level. Where have I read something similar? Oh right, WW2.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
19. "There is a near-systematic purge happening....' within the entire
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:56 PM
Apr 2019

US government !!!

Think Stalin, et al....

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
20. All these firings are not signs that DJT is decisive.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:57 PM
Apr 2019

It's indeed a sign that Trump does not appoint "the best of people" to high level positions and democrats would be wise to pound that point home.

From a business perspective, which Trump claims as his strong suit, it's like a CEO naming his board then repeatedly firing them one at a time for gross incompetence. The core problem is looking right at him from the mirror every day while he does his comb over.

What a bumbling boob we have as president.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
25. Glad to see you posted this.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:00 PM
Apr 2019

I just finished reading the CNN article a second before I came in. The 'purge' comments make me see him as even more of a madman than usual.

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
31. Trump mistakes loyalty for competance.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:18 PM
Apr 2019

He will find out the hard way that the Secret Service is not a good place to make this mistake.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
35. A serious purge is taking place a la stalin.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:22 PM
Apr 2019

It just may not LOOK like it.

This does NOT bode well....

courts
secret service
HHS
any department that has anything to do with authoritarian control of the US

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
36. This is not good.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:23 PM
Apr 2019

They're consolidating power as if they already have the 2020 election in the bag.

"russia, if you're listening"
- donald j trump

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
38. Trump the Scatterbrain
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:28 PM
Apr 2019

He's all over the map without a clue what to do or how to do it. Simply whatever satisfies his jumbo-sized vanity. Fucking pathetic.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
43. Bending it all to his will
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:39 PM
Apr 2019

Just part of the systematic dismantling of the structure of the Country.
We don’t have the Senate so this behavior will be endorsed and tolerated and once endorsed considered the new norm. The Senate is already dead as a deliberative body.


Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
47. Remember when the repugs screamed and cried about Bill Clinton's politically motivated
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:03 PM
Apr 2019

firing of some Travel Office staff?

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
51. Oh, yeah, Travel Office!!!!!!
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:24 PM
Apr 2019

Glad they kept us aware of the impact on our national security, you know, not the little things like Homeland Security and Secret Service. Wow, guess we dodged a bullet there!

Thanks, Republicans!!!! (No, Obama, you don't get any credit for this, unless the Repugs decide to blame you!)

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
53. And the Travel Office had to coordinate its activities with the Secret Service, of course.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:32 PM
Apr 2019

Imagine if the Clinton Admin had fired the head of the Secret Service, back then.

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
48. I can't imagine being a SS agent and living with the thought of having to take a bullet
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:19 PM
Apr 2019

for that vile POS.

Jedi Guy

(3,190 posts)
55. I've had that thought a few times since Dolt 45 took office.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:40 PM
Apr 2019

If it were me, I'd accidentally-on-purpose trip and fall when I went to jump in front of him. Oopsie.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
59. I look forward to reading Mr. Alles's "tell-all" book
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:03 PM
Apr 2019

... and the Secret Service guys know where all the bodies are buried.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
63. Trump had soured on Alles a while ago, even making fun of his looks, calling him Dumbo....
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 05:15 PM
Apr 2019
ThreeMexicanPopehats Retweeted

“The president had soured on [the Secret Service director] a while ago, even making fun of his looks, calling him Dumbo because of his ears, two officials said.”


65. He's already got a new Secret Service director selected:
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:53 PM
Apr 2019


He's got all the qualities Fat Donnie looks for in a leader. He looks good on television, he's got good ratings (don't tell DT the show's no longer on), he's already in the Secret Service, and he's white.

Just don't let him know the show was resurrected as a movie with James West played by a black man...



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