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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 02:07 PM Apr 2019

Feds say they've busted a $1.2-billion Medicare scam that targeted seniors

Source: LA Times

Federal authorities said Tuesday that they’ve broken up a $1.2-billion Medicare scam that peddled unneeded orthopedic braces to hundreds of thousands of seniors via foreign call centers.

The Justice Department announced charges against 24 people across the United States, including doctors accused of writing bogus prescriptions for unneeded back, shoulder, wrist and knee braces. Others charged include owners of call centers, telemedicine firms and medical equipment companies, including two people from Glendora in the San Gabriel Valley.

The Health and Human Services inspector general’s office said the fast-moving scam morphed into multiple related schemes, fueled by kickbacks among the parties involved. The FBI and 17 U.S. attorney’s offices took part in the crackdown. Arrests were made Tuesday morning.

Medicare said it’s taking action against 130 medical equipment companies implicated. They billed the program a total of $1.7 billion, of which more than $900 million was paid out.

Read more: https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-medicare-scam-back-brace-seniors-20190409-story.html

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Feds say they've busted a $1.2-billion Medicare scam that targeted seniors (Original Post) Zorro Apr 2019 OP
With this kind of money Scarsdale Apr 2019 #1
Exactly what I was thinking (n/t) MissMillie Apr 2019 #27
Medicare costs are busting the budget at140 Apr 2019 #2
Like Governor Scott, they just run for office True Blue American Apr 2019 #12
Yes, if we hope to get a government run healthcare for all at140 Apr 2019 #29
Barr mentioned about a Senior scam this morning True Blue American Apr 2019 #3
local company busted KT2000 Apr 2019 #4
Like I've said - OhZone Apr 2019 #5
Agree 100%...never trust anyone when it comes to your own health at140 Apr 2019 #30
I Was Getting a Couple of Calls a Day From These Cretins--Thanks for Shutting Them Down DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #6
Let's just hope these are the robocall scammers. hedda_foil Apr 2019 #8
Me, too. 3Hotdogs Apr 2019 #25
Finally! They've been robocalling me daily! marybourg Apr 2019 #7
Same here. True Blue American Apr 2019 #13
us too. one call talks about taking Medicare away if we don't demigoddess Apr 2019 #15
Crank calls? True Blue American Apr 2019 #20
They have been calling me a lot. murielm99 Apr 2019 #9
They were calling me a lot too ToxMarz Apr 2019 #10
They called me a lot while I was waiting for my spinal fusion surgery csziggy Apr 2019 #22
Wonder when they are going to around to the "scooter"scam packman Apr 2019 #11
So manty Medicat Supply stores True Blue American Apr 2019 #14
I was told to get special shoes which medicare would pay for demigoddess Apr 2019 #16
Yes True Blue American Apr 2019 #18
That's why the calls have stopped. Great! Vinca Apr 2019 #17
We've been getting 2 to 5 calls a day for weeks! Greybnk48 Apr 2019 #19
Been going on too long.. Maxheader Apr 2019 #21
"Hang a few" FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #24
We got one of these calls on our do-not-call landline just a few hours ago. eggplant Apr 2019 #23
My latest crank call... llmart Apr 2019 #26
We just got one of those calls, too! sueh Apr 2019 #31
Ah...So that's why the grace calls have stopped. MineralMan Apr 2019 #28
I had a call a few weeks ago about my SSN being "deactiviated" and I need to help them sort it out. hughee99 Apr 2019 #33
I got a call yesterday for one, but I don't wear a brace of any kind, and I'm a few decades away hughee99 Apr 2019 #32
Accord to Joe Kennedy.. Linda Ed Apr 2019 #34

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
1. With this kind of money
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 02:11 PM
Apr 2019

available tell me again WHY can we NOT afford Universal Health Care in this country???

at140

(6,110 posts)
2. Medicare costs are busting the budget
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 02:13 PM
Apr 2019

Probably due to fraud. Penalties for those caught for scamming the system should be much stiffer. Scammers are killing the system.

at140

(6,110 posts)
29. Yes, if we hope to get a government run healthcare for all
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 07:03 PM
Apr 2019

system, such as Medicare for all, it will not work unless laws are tightened up much more so that fraudsters like the Billion+ fraud stated in the OP, or legal fraud by people like Gov Scott become very difficult to pull off.

True Blue American

(17,985 posts)
3. Barr mentioned about a Senior scam this morning
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 02:15 PM
Apr 2019

I did not listen closely but that is all those braces we have been seeing on TV.

at140

(6,110 posts)
30. Agree 100%...never trust anyone when it comes to your own health
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 07:08 PM
Apr 2019

Doctors are not Gods. They see hundreds of patients every month. They can easily miss something.

A very recent example...our friend had sinus problems which would not go away.
She saw the doctor 6 times and received different medications to try.
Still not get better.
Finally she demanded an MRI, and it found a golf ball size tumor behind the sinus.
She is having biopsy this Friday. Hopefully it is not malignant. She is early 70's.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
8. Let's just hope these are the robocall scammers.
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 02:42 PM
Apr 2019

No doubt there are copycat scammers on top of these crooks.

True Blue American

(17,985 posts)
13. Same here.
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:07 PM
Apr 2019

If not them the Insurance company wants t give you a home call.

I told them I keep in close contact with my Doctor. Can see them the same day if I have a problem.

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
15. us too. one call talks about taking Medicare away if we don't
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:13 PM
Apr 2019

contact them and other one talks about knee braces and back braces. we hate those calls. All the time, day after day. Thought I had finally gotten them to stop, i guess they got arrested.

True Blue American

(17,985 posts)
20. Crank calls?
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:42 PM
Apr 2019

Press 77 after the first ring,stops.

Even do not call, Nomorobo, only work for a while. They told me they find ways around. I do not get as many since I started the 77 bit.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
9. They have been calling me a lot.
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 02:48 PM
Apr 2019

I had a back injury and had physical therapy for it. If my doc had seen the need for a brace, I would have one by now. I never even asked about it.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
10. They were calling me a lot too
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:01 PM
Apr 2019

And I don't have any injuries. Think they called any and every number they could.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
22. They called me a lot while I was waiting for my spinal fusion surgery
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 04:01 PM
Apr 2019

Once I got a live person rather than a robocall and played with him. Told him I had absolutely no pain anywhere on my body and didn't need any braces. He started offered a back brace which I denied needing due to no pain, moved on to knees (which I denied since they have been replaced), then wrists and neck. I kept cheerfully telling him I didn't hurt anywhere at any time so I didn't need any of his devices.

Finally I got bored and told him since I didn't hurt anywhere he could take my name off his list and please don't waste his time calling me again. I think I kept him on the phone for nearly a half hour.

Since then I have only gotten robocalls which I hang up on. It's no fun playing with them - they can't get frustrated.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
11. Wonder when they are going to around to the "scooter"scam
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:03 PM
Apr 2019

In the early 2000’s, Florida made national headlines over “scooter stores” which were as common as convenience stores in some parts of South Florida. The problem, these stores were often just fronts for Medicare scammers using them as backdrops for lucrative schemes that exploited taxpayers. Criminals disguising themselves as legitimate medical supply companies would provide Medicare patients pricey scooters or wheelchairs they didn’t need or want. Then the scammers asked Medicare to pay them back often with huge markups the government paid with few questions asked

https://www.wptv.com/longform/the-new-face-of-medical-equipment-fraud-in-florida

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
16. I was told to get special shoes which medicare would pay for
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:25 PM
Apr 2019

seemed legit but those shoes are the most uncomfortable things I have worn. Podiatrist did an operation that just killed my foot. Then went to wound care that podiatrist wanted and it didn't do much. all legit but worthless. Seems like everybody wants to make points and money off of medicare. And that doesn't even mention the statins etc that don't seem to be the best thing to do.

Is that the sort of stuff you were talking about?

True Blue American

(17,985 posts)
18. Yes
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:38 PM
Apr 2019

I understand that many of those supplies are needed, many are not.

I have had lower back pain all my life. I bought a cheap back brace. When I do a lot of lifting my back hurts. I found the brace makes me walk different. Pain goes away after I wear it a couple of hours.

I also do leg exercises and stretching at the Y Pool 3 days a week. Really helps.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
21. Been going on too long..
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:46 PM
Apr 2019

First they addict us to drugs..
Then they take take advantage of us seniors...

Hang a few..See if that gets the msg across...

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
23. We got one of these calls on our do-not-call landline just a few hours ago.
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 04:07 PM
Apr 2019

So somehow, I don't think they're gone just yet.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
26. My latest crank call...
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 04:48 PM
Apr 2019

on my landline is that a call comes from my own landline number and my name comes up on the phone display.

Guess I'm calling myself now. I have no idea how that even works, but these robocall companies need to be dealt with. The do not call law is a joke.

sueh

(1,826 posts)
31. We just got one of those calls, too!
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 10:44 PM
Apr 2019

The scammers are looking for ways to get us to answer our phones.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
33. I had a call a few weeks ago about my SSN being "deactiviated" and I need to help them sort it out.
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 11:10 PM
Apr 2019

I gave them a fake name, address, and SSN, and they said "Okay I have your information here". I said "really, my information came up even though I just made up a fake name, address and number?" They hung up.

You'd think they'd recognize that Heywood Jablowme isn't a real name.

For some reason, I get a lot of these calls. I'm just happy the "IRS" has stopped calling. The deputies have yet to show up to arrest me.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
32. I got a call yesterday for one, but I don't wear a brace of any kind, and I'm a few decades away
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 11:02 PM
Apr 2019

from being a "senior". The call was very short.

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
34. Accord to Joe Kennedy..
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 12:18 AM
Apr 2019

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid. Huckabee copied me.
🍄rump is now breaking his promises, like the con-man he is...

Rep. Joe Kennedy @RepJoeKennedy
🍄rump just proposed over $1,000,000,000,000 in cuts to Medicare & Medicaid. THIS NEEDS to go VIRAL..

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