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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 09:53 AM Apr 2019

Trump sues in bid to block congressional subpoena of financial records

Source: Washington Post

President Trump and his business on Monday sued House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.) in a bid to block a congressional subpoena of his financial records.

The lawsuit seeks a court order to prevent Trump’s accounting firm from complying with what his lawyers say is an improper use of subpoena power by congressional Democrats.

“Democrats are using their new control of congressional committees to investigate every aspect of President Trump’s personal finances, businesses, and even his family,” the filing by Trump claims. “Instead of working with the President to pass bipartisan legislation that would actually benefit Americans, House Democrats are singularly obsessed with finding something they can use to damage the President politically.”

The filing, in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, further escalates a clash between the White House and the Democratic House over congressional oversight.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-sues-in-bid-to-block-congressional-subpoena-of-financial-records/2019/04/22/a98de3d0-6500-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html

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Trump sues in bid to block congressional subpoena of financial records (Original Post) ehrnst Apr 2019 OP
Really terrified, huh?:) True Blue American Apr 2019 #1
Edit: Moved to other earlier thread as this is a dupe thread. cstanleytech Apr 2019 #2
This will be fun to watch Gothmog Apr 2019 #3
Ivanka sheshe2 Apr 2019 #26
Guiltiest looking dude I've ever seen IronLionZion Apr 2019 #4
Totally sounds innocent to me... durablend Apr 2019 #5
Stonewall. Cover up. Mc Mike Apr 2019 #6
Using courts to circumvent oversight of Congress and The People is the work of dictators. ancianita Apr 2019 #7
I hope he doesn't succeed in the courts NYMinute Apr 2019 #8
Show America how much you have to hide. TeamPooka Apr 2019 #9
How does this asshole find any time to do presidentin? louis-t Apr 2019 #10
I said it a long time ago, he doesn't have time for that, he is a decoy Perseus Apr 2019 #13
More like "Look at all he's done TO us." joshdawg Apr 2019 #28
There is no legal issue here ScratchCat Apr 2019 #11
Another tattle-tale sign of BS... 2naSalit Apr 2019 #15
The complaint reads as a political screed, not a legal argument onenote Apr 2019 #18
I understand it is their duty to "defend", but they can refuse Perseus Apr 2019 #12
Heaven help us if lawyers can be disbarred based on who they represent. onenote Apr 2019 #17
There would be no District Attorneys, then, would there? ehrnst Apr 2019 #19
A judge doesn't have to disbar anyone. They just have to refuse to hear the case Texin Apr 2019 #21
He Must Be Terrified To Have Them Examined colsohlibgal Apr 2019 #14
This should be a "no brainer" Pantagruel Apr 2019 #16
Fun facts on the Oversight Committee's use of subpoenas onenote Apr 2019 #20
geez, they are tossed out by the Repugs like candy at a parade. riversedge Apr 2019 #23
Indeed ck4829 Apr 2019 #25
Jay Sekulow is still crying about 'presidental harassment... riversedge Apr 2019 #22
Kick ck4829 Apr 2019 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #27
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
8. I hope he doesn't succeed in the courts
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 10:57 AM
Apr 2019

Any justice siding with Trump will have a terrible legacy.

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
10. How does this asshole find any time to do presidentin?
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 11:09 AM
Apr 2019

Between golf, tweeting, sitting on the shitter, suing people, yelling at the media, plotting his revenge against people who aren't nice to him, how can anyone say "Look at all he's done for us"?

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
13. I said it a long time ago, he doesn't have time for that, he is a decoy
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 11:30 AM
Apr 2019

and the people behind him cook up the treasonous ideas (Stephen Miller), he just goes along with it many times not understanding what he is agreeing to, and because he lacks any concept of consequences, he just picks up his pen and signs.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
11. There is no legal issue here
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 11:26 AM
Apr 2019

The courts should simply decline to hear this suit. At every/any level, the ruling is easy - it is the authority of Congress to limit this power through law. There is nothing for a court to interpret. It doesn't even look like they are citing any law, its just PR nonsense.

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
15. Another tattle-tale sign of BS...
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 11:48 AM
Apr 2019

if this is true, that he filed as a "private citizen" which he is not and hasn't been since taking office. So that, right there defeats any claims of "standing" period. Along with the reasons you mentioned.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
18. The complaint reads as a political screed, not a legal argument
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:38 PM
Apr 2019

And I doubt the judge receiving it will be amused.

You don't win over judges when you start out referring to the "Democrat Party" when the proper name is the Democratic Party. No one will be surprised that the lead counsel is a former Clarence Thomas clerk.

And the cases that they cite really don't help them. For example, while they cite the general proposition that the power of Congress to conduct investigations is not unlimited, they fail to cite the accompanying language from that case:

"We start with several basic premises on which there is general agreement. The power of the Congress to conduct investigations is inherent in the legislative process. That power is broad. It encompasses inquiries concerning the administration of existing laws, as well as proposed or possibly needed statutes. It includes surveys of defects in our social, economic or political system for the purpose of enabling the Congress to remedy them. It comprehends probes into departments of the Federal Government to expose corruption, inefficiency or waste"

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
12. I understand it is their duty to "defend", but they can refuse
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 11:27 AM
Apr 2019

The buffoon's lawyers should be disbarred, what a pack of shameless and unpatriotic people. When you understand the situation, when you know you are being asked to defend a criminal, a traitor, and you know the person IS, in fact, a criminal and a traitor (I repeat myself), you have the right to refuse the job, and you will unless you are made of the same filth, and your goal is to preserve criminality and treason.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
17. Heaven help us if lawyers can be disbarred based on who they represent.
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:33 PM
Apr 2019

Seriously. What a ridiculous thing to suggest.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. There would be no District Attorneys, then, would there?
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:40 PM
Apr 2019

Why should a government be able to disbar a lawyer for taking a case?

I agree that if a lawyer/firm brings huge numbers of suits that get turned away by judges that they should be fined for deliberately clogging the court system with frivolous lawsuits, but your suggestion isn't based in an understanding of the legal system...

Texin

(2,596 posts)
21. A judge doesn't have to disbar anyone. They just have to refuse to hear the case
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:08 PM
Apr 2019

on the grounds that it's frivolously brought by the plaintiff.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
14. He Must Be Terrified To Have Them Examined
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 11:34 AM
Apr 2019

Me Thinks he does protest too much......how sleazy and crooked they must be.

The law is not on his side, he should lose this fight and then we shall see what he desperately wants to hide.

He is a triple threat, dumb, crooked, and plain evil. Anyone supporting him has lost any capacity for critical thinking and/or a far right wing ideologue who would have proudly goose stepped for Hitler.

This is a pivot point for the USA.

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
16. This should be a "no brainer"
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:26 PM
Apr 2019

Aside from the fact that innocent people don't fight disclosure this hard, do we really need to recap all the reasons, legal filings and common sense questions that have arisen around Trump's finances and can be reasonably solved by examining his financial records? This should be a "no brainer".

onenote

(42,714 posts)
20. Fun facts on the Oversight Committee's use of subpoenas
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:55 PM
Apr 2019

(from Wikipedia):

In 1997, the Republican majority on the committee changed its rules to allow the chairman, Dan Burton (R-Indiana), to issue subpoenas without the consent of the committee's ranking Democrat. From 1997 to 2002, Burton used this authority to issue 1,052 unilateral subpoenas, many of them related to alleged misconduct by President Bill Clinton, at a cost of more than $35 million

By contrast, from 2003 to 2005, under the chairmanship of Tom Davis (R-Virginia), the committee issued only three subpoenas to the Bush administration.

After Republicans retook the House in the 2010 elections, the new chairman, Darrell Issa (R-California), escalated the use of subpoenas again, issuing more than 100 in four years during the Obama administration. That was more than the combined total issued by the previous three chairmen—Davis, Henry Waxman (D-California), and Edolphus Towns (D-New York)—from 2003 to 2010.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
22. Jay Sekulow is still crying about 'presidental harassment...
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 03:01 PM
Apr 2019



............Trump’s private attorney, Jay Sekulow, issued a brief statement saying, “We will not allow Congressional Presidential harassment to go unanswered.”

In the suit, Trump’s attorneys wrote that the true purpose of this investigation was not governance, but political advantage: “Its goal is to expose Plaintiffs’ private financial information for the sake of exposure, with the hope that it will turn up something that Democrats can use as a political tool against the President now and in the 2020 election.”

The Trump Organization, Trump’s private business, is also listed as a plaintiff in the lawsuit. Trump Organization officials declined to comment.

Trump himself still owns the business, though he says he has given up day-to-day control to his sons Eric and Donald Jr.

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