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BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:06 PM Apr 2019

N.R.A. President Tries to Oust Wayne LaPierre in Widening Crisis

Source: New York Times



INDIANAPOLIS — Turmoil wracking the National Rifle Association is threatening to turn the group’s annual convention into outright civil war, as insurgents maneuver to oust Wayne LaPierre, the foremost voice of the American gun rights movement.

The confrontation pits Mr. LaPierre, the organization’s longtime chief executive, against its recently installed president, Oliver L. North, the central figure in the Reagan-era Iran-contra affair, who remains a hero to many on the right.

Behind it is a widening crisis involving a legal battle between the N.R.A. and its most influential contractor, Ackerman McQueen, amid renewed threats from regulators in New York, where the N.R.A. is chartered, to investigate the group’s tax-exempt status. With contributions lagging, the N.R.A. is also facing an increasingly well-financed gun rights movement, motivated by a string of mass shootings.

Mr. North asked Mr. LaPierre to resign on Wednesday, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times. He said he had also created a committee to review allegations of financial improprieties that threaten the N.R.A.’s status as a nonprofit organization.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/business/nra-wayne-lapierre-oliver-north.html



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N.R.A. President Tries to Oust Wayne LaPierre in Widening Crisis (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 OP
The only way to settle it is with a duel. cureautismnow Apr 2019 #1
maybe they'll strap on 6 shooters. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #2
Live by the sword, die by the sword. BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #3
20 paces...turn and shoot.. Maxheader Apr 2019 #4
Like that idea Rebl2 Apr 2019 #12
Gatfight. Gatfight. Bob Loblaw Apr 2019 #25
WHY is the NRA a tax-exempt organization ? Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2019 #5
Two biggest scumbags fighting for head honcho at a scumbag organization. llmart Apr 2019 #6
They don't trust their own members with guns. Their conventions are gun free for attendees. keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #13
Their members have shit for brains. llmart Apr 2019 #18
Yes, My Pretties My Name is Url Apr 2019 #7
Oliver North testified in a televised meeting with Congress about Iran-Contra. Cold War Spook Apr 2019 #8
one of the most misunderstood things about the NRA melm00se Apr 2019 #9
Guess what? When Oliver North is your champion, not many care. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #24
Thoughts and prayers! DrToast Apr 2019 #10
Thoughts and prayers. Hugin Apr 2019 #11
The NRA Is Being Sued Over Its Relentless Telemarketing Campaigns keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #14
Ollie would know about "financial improprieties" yellowcanine Apr 2019 #15
Reads like a mafia internal spat. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2019 #16
In Arena 2: Dog Shit and Rotting Flesh vie for most maggots. LuvLoogie Apr 2019 #17
An NRA Civil War? Gore1FL Apr 2019 #19
Could be interesting Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #20
Pity the NRA Convention is a gun free zone Ruby the Liberal Apr 2019 #21
David Hogg weighs in Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #22
Lol OriginalGeek Apr 2019 #33
LaPierre vs. North? Paladin Apr 2019 #23
I'm looking forward to seeing the NRA crash and burn after being duped by a Russian operative Nitram Apr 2019 #26
... Me. Apr 2019 #27
This is certainly a nice way to start my weekend! Thanks for this news. LonePirate Apr 2019 #28
A solution they would love, right down their warped alley LastDemocratInSC Apr 2019 #29
LaPierre is responsible for the deaths of more Americans Turbineguy Apr 2019 #30
I wouldn't go that far Polybius Apr 2019 #34
I was always under the impression... jmowreader Apr 2019 #31
MSNBC is reporting that Ollie North has been ousted. (nt) Paladin Apr 2019 #32
Yup. BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #35
It was his 2nd greatest honor to serve. Turbineguy Apr 2019 #36
I am thoroughly enjoying the self-destruction of the NRA. nt Progressive Jones Apr 2019 #37

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
5. WHY is the NRA a tax-exempt organization ?
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:24 PM
Apr 2019

I realize that it's members worship guns, but how is it that they are tax-exempt when they are so active in politics ?

Anybody know ?

llmart

(15,539 posts)
6. Two biggest scumbags fighting for head honcho at a scumbag organization.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:29 PM
Apr 2019

I really don't care, do u? Maybe it will get so heated that they can pull a gun on each other.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
13. They don't trust their own members with guns. Their conventions are gun free for attendees.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:56 PM
Apr 2019

They don't trust their own members with guns.

Their conventions are gun free for attendees.

The NRA knows its members.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
8. Oliver North testified in a televised meeting with Congress about Iran-Contra.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:43 PM
Apr 2019

It was by far the weirdest Congressional meeting I ever saw. It was supposed to be in a different room where he could show slides. They needed to move it to a bigger room. The room it ended up in was too light, I think because of the shades. When North started to testify, every time he talked about a different slide, which they could not see, he used his clicker. No one in the room thought that was odd. I could not figure out if he was making a joke or was just weird.

melm00se

(4,992 posts)
9. one of the most misunderstood things about the NRA
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:44 PM
Apr 2019

is the fact that there are 2 separate and distinct aspects of the NRA.

There is the NRA and the NRA-IL.

The NRA is the gun safety arm and overarching organization. The NRA-IL is the "Democrats are coming for your guns" arm.

The overarching NRA is getting fed up with LaPierre's doom and gloom ranting and have realized that LaPierre is the reason that the NRA is hemorrhaging members (he is the reason that I left and was vocal about it when I resigned my membership).


maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
24. Guess what? When Oliver North is your champion, not many care.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:48 PM
Apr 2019

They're one and the same to the vast majority of Americans, who are fed up with the poison they spew.

NRA-ILA = Institute for Legislative Action

Hugin

(33,144 posts)
11. Thoughts and prayers.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:46 PM
Apr 2019


Hmm... NRA-Republicans-McConnell-North-Iran/Contra-Barr-Trump-Russians. No, Hugin. Don't go there.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
14. The NRA Is Being Sued Over Its Relentless Telemarketing Campaigns
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:59 PM
Apr 2019

NRA Cuts More Operating Costs-and Lavishes Executives With Perks

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/11/nra-money-executive-perks-pay-cutting-costs/


The NRA Is Being Sued Over Its Relentless Telemarketing Campaigns

When begging for bucks goes wrong.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-nra-is-being-sued-over-its-relentless-telemarketing-campaigns

The NRA has employed InfoCision since 2012 under a contract that grants the fundraising company up to 65 percent of the funds it raises on the NRA’s behalf. InfoCision gets between $2.50 and $3.75 for each “completed call” to potential NRA donors, and up to half of the regular payments for new or renewed NRA memberships.
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If those high fees are unavoidable, they can also have the effect of obscuring, for a potential donor, exactly where his or her money is going. Many of those speaking with an InfoCision fundraiser, after all, will not know that a majority of their donation is not going to the charity that fundraiser is representing.

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NRAsolicitations
comment from a blog (DU I think)

I had a coworker who was a big time gun owner who kept a gun in every room in the house just in case someone broke in (lots of problems with that idea, may be worth a blog article someday, but that’s what he did). He even went so far as to start buying more guns for each room after a school shooting, like home invasion and mass shooting are correlated somehow. He had let his NRA membership lapse and refused to renew it because he got tired of nonstop requests for donations. To him all the membership did was give the NRA to badger him for more money with phone calls, and direct mailings. If the
organization is as strapped for cash as it appears, those solicitations may have gone way over the top and people are simply tired of being badgered for money and are choosing to let their membership to lapse.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
15. Ollie would know about "financial improprieties"
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 07:02 PM
Apr 2019

Slimeball comingled personal funds with Iran/Contra funds and made up some stupid story about using spare change to buy a used car.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
21. Pity the NRA Convention is a gun free zone
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:09 PM
Apr 2019

A duel would raise enough in pay-per-view to fund some of the legal bills.

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
26. I'm looking forward to seeing the NRA crash and burn after being duped by a Russian operative
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:58 PM
Apr 2019

and taking millions in illegal foreign donations.

Polybius

(15,417 posts)
34. I wouldn't go that far
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 12:20 PM
Apr 2019

Without LaPeirre (and even without the NRA), there still wouldn't be a total ban on handguns, so therefore there would still be many deaths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the United States, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
31. I was always under the impression...
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 10:48 AM
Apr 2019

...that “NRA President” was kind of a honorary thing, and LaPierre was the real head of the group.

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