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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:50 PM May 2019

Pennsylvania college to no longer allow frats, sororities

Source: Associated Press

Pennsylvania college to no longer allow frats, sororities
Updated 2:06 pm CDT, Friday, May 10, 2019

SWARTHMORE, Pa. (AP) — Fraternities and sororities will no longer be allowed at Swarthmore College.

School President Valerie Smith made the announcement Friday.

It comes after the only two fraternities at the private liberal arts college in suburban Philadelphia decided to disband amid outrage over internal documents from one of the organizations. They contained derogatory comments about women and the LGBTQ community and jokes about sexual assault. Two campus publications released the Phi Psi documents from 2012 to 2016 and said were anonymously leaked.

In the wake of the documents' release, dozens of students occupied the on-campus Phi Psi house and called for both fraternities to be shut down.


Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/education/article/Pennsylvania-college-to-no-longer-allow-frats-13836089.php

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Pennsylvania college to no longer allow frats, sororities (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2019 OP
Good. Put an end to all that nonsense. Aristus May 2019 #1
Good. Bilegurken May 2019 #2
Totally support it. LiberalFighter May 2019 #3
Totally support this! redstatebluegirl May 2019 #4
Why prevent sororities? Never heard of a sorority with a rape room...NT Fresh_Start May 2019 #5
Best guess its to hopefully render any lawsuit someone might file over it moot cstanleytech May 2019 #7
Never went to college myself so I do wonder whats to prevent them from forming off cstanleytech May 2019 #6
No recognition from the university itself. TexasTowelie May 2019 #8
A fraternity at a college is most often a chapter of a national organization.. Princess Turandot May 2019 #14
So will the outright ban on all fraternities hurt the college much or will it have a cstanleytech May 2019 #15
It will help the college; they will appear more serious about education and safety. lagomorph777 May 2019 #23
I guessed correctly. TexasTowelie May 2019 #9
Great, now do college sports. Qutzupalotl May 2019 #10
Do it at the high school level, too. murielm99 May 2019 #11
I chose my school because they had no football team. lagomorph777 May 2019 #24
Wrongheaded Blackjackdavey May 2019 #27
I have the same situation - bright dyslexic kid, great at soccer - close to full ride to D1 college. Dream Girl May 2019 #29
Fuckin finally .. Fullduplexxx May 2019 #12
The Republican party is the new Animal House ArizonaLib May 2019 #13
+10 Duppers May 2019 #19
Good Move Five Ten Nineteen May 2019 #16
Brings that old movie 'Animal House' to mind. Only, these things PatrickforO May 2019 #21
Thanks for the Welcome! Five Ten Nineteen May 2019 #22
Sorry, this is wrong. James48 May 2019 #17
That sounds lovely - not sure what planet your frat was on, but it was not anything like that lagomorph777 May 2019 #25
At my university jberryhill May 2019 #26
I've been involved with several universities and FWIW spooky3 May 2019 #28
Why? What's wrong with snobby cliques? nt Duppers May 2019 #18
Good democrank May 2019 #20
This won't eliminate the sort of douchebag that would join a frat or sorority. nt Progressive Jones May 2019 #30
I'm The Sort Of Douchebag RobinA May 2019 #31

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
7. Best guess its to hopefully render any lawsuit someone might file over it moot
Fri May 10, 2019, 04:35 PM
May 2019

as they can point out that they are applying it equally to everyone.

TexasTowelie

(112,226 posts)
8. No recognition from the university itself.
Fri May 10, 2019, 04:47 PM
May 2019

At that point they are only a gang rather than a Greek organization.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
14. A fraternity at a college is most often a chapter of a national organization..
Fri May 10, 2019, 07:26 PM
May 2019

..which is the actual fraternity. If a school no longer sanctions the fraternity's chapter, the national organization won't support it, or recognize the participants as its members. The houses are usually owned by the national organizations, so that's a problem.

Also, one big reason that people join frats is for the automatic post-college network that they provide. That goes away if the chapter loses its charter.

Qutzupalotl

(14,314 posts)
10. Great, now do college sports.
Fri May 10, 2019, 05:01 PM
May 2019

(unpopular opinion, but) I’m old enough to remember when colleges were for education.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
11. Do it at the high school level, too.
Fri May 10, 2019, 05:08 PM
May 2019

Let the communities who value sports pay for teams and sponsor them. Let schools be places for academic pursuits.

Blackjackdavey

(178 posts)
27. Wrongheaded
Mon May 13, 2019, 04:56 PM
May 2019

It turns out everyone has different skills and abilities. Some kids are talented writers. Some mathematicians. Some are talented cartoonists. Some are talented athletes. Universities were not meant to become corporate worker factories but an opportunity for young people to self actualize and to become contributing members of society. All of the above and many more should all have the opportunity to develop their skills in an environment at a higher level.

Another spin (personal agenda ahead My son has dyslexia. Despite being arguably the most intelligent and sophisticated scholar in his school, he isn't going to get an academic scholarship nor are his grades/SAT scores going to make him eligible at a glance. Turns out he is ridiculously good at soccer. He will gain access to a Division I college who will in turn use their considerable student-athlete resources to help a very talented individual obtain a college education that he would have otherwise had trouble accessing and if he did gain access he would have trouble accomplishing on his own.

Food for thought.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
13. The Republican party is the new Animal House
Fri May 10, 2019, 05:48 PM
May 2019

except add in some puritanical hypocrisy and primates with guns.

 
16. Good Move
Fri May 10, 2019, 07:51 PM
May 2019

I was in one at MSU many a moon ago. Looking back, I'm disgusted with my attitudes back then, and a few of my actions, too.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
21. Brings that old movie 'Animal House' to mind. Only, these things
Mon May 13, 2019, 02:18 PM
May 2019

aren't funny. I am disgusted with some of my former attitudes and actions as well. I know few honest people who are not.

Welcome to DU.

James48

(4,436 posts)
17. Sorry, this is wrong.
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:46 PM
May 2019

I’m a different voice on this. I was a fraternity member in college, and the character of most fraternities would be
Against most of those rare issues that get local chapters into hot water. High standards of conduct, and dedication to purpose is a real benefit of fraternities and sororities. I disagree that they should be banned- if members of an individual chapter violate a norm, then deal with those people- not punish those who are doing good.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. That sounds lovely - not sure what planet your frat was on, but it was not anything like that
Mon May 13, 2019, 04:20 PM
May 2019

at my school, a fairly serious place other than allowing frats on campus.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
26. At my university
Mon May 13, 2019, 04:47 PM
May 2019

They were primarily venues for supplying underaged persons with alcohol.

Also, they kept extensive backfiles of homework assignments and tests for various courses, so that their members had access to study materials which other students did not.

I certainly imagine that they may have been different sorts of institutions at other colleges or universities, so I am not discounting your experience.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
28. I've been involved with several universities and FWIW
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:04 PM
May 2019

I believe the culture is much better without sororities and fraternities.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
31. I'm The Sort Of Douchebag
Wed May 15, 2019, 01:17 PM
May 2019

who would join a frat or sorority, and I found it a very positive experience. Partying, at least at the schools I was aware of, was certainly not limited to the frats, although this was the '70's. Maybe nowadays college students don't drink unless they are members of Greek organizations.

This thread - generalize much?

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