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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Tue May 28, 2019, 10:35 AM May 2019

Trump tells troops that future US supercarriers are 'going to use steam' in a weird rant about an ob

Source: Business Insider

Trump tells troops that future US supercarriers are 'going to use steam' in a weird rant about an obsession he can't seem to shake
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President Donald Trump with troops at a Memorial Day event aboard the USS Wasp, in Yokosuka, Japan, May 28, 2019. AP Photo/Evan Vucci


President Donald Trump suddenly and inexplicably returned to a persistent obsession -- the aircraft launch systems on the new Ford-class supercarriers -- while talking with US troops stationed in Japan on Tuesday.

At one point, Trump told the troops that future carriers will return to using steam to launch aircraft.

The US Navy's Nimitz-class aircraft carriers have used steam launchers for decades to catapult aircraft off the flight deck, but the service is investing heavily in an Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) for the newer Ford-class supercarriers.

. . .

During Tuesday's talk, Trump polled US 7th Fleet troops aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Wasp, asking the crowd of sailors and Marines which was better, steam or electromagnetic catapults.


Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-future-aircraft-carriers-are-going-to-use-steam-2019-5

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Trump tells troops that future US supercarriers are 'going to use steam' in a weird rant about an ob (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2019 OP
He seems fixated on the steam catapult....conservative/reactionary fixation. Thomas Hurt May 2019 #1
and he likes those old fashioned light bulbs too. None of those swirly light bulbs for trump. TeamPooka May 2019 #18
yeah, all that new fangled stuff is liberal and socialist and thus of Satan....LOL. Thomas Hurt May 2019 #19
So the military is going full steam punk then? Initech May 2019 #2
Oh goodie Rural_Progressive May 2019 #3
The SS Cornelius Isiah? I could get behind that! Initech May 2019 #5
Bwaaaaaahahahahahaha!!!! Ilsa May 2019 #23
Make Old Stuff Old Again (R) Achilleaze May 2019 #4
Research will show... B Stieg May 2019 #6
BINGO !!!!!!!!! tRump only supports things that line his pockets groundloop May 2019 #13
They should use a steam launcher to catapult a fat orange blob into the ocean IronLionZion May 2019 #7
Funny that you mention it that way... keithbvadu2 May 2019 #21
Bringing back COAL!!!!! Grins May 2019 #8
More hot air from old yellowstain C_U_L8R May 2019 #9
part of the navy's new sailors basic kit.... Javaman May 2019 #10
In other news: the president is buying up all the horse whip stocks he can find. nt Javaman May 2019 #11
He could even round up all those wild horses,too! True Blue American May 2019 #27
Trump quipped those Troops supporting "electromagnetic catapults were working for the enemy." riversedge May 2019 #12
The "Trump Fighter Plane" is revealed bronxiteforever May 2019 #14
Too advanced. He's more of a Ilsa May 2019 #24
Three new carriers are being built. Which one do you think Trump will name after himself? LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2019 #15
I'm sure naval ship builders will listen to his expertise. NOT! brush May 2019 #16
What a weird thing Sapient Donkey May 2019 #17
What a jackass, all carriers, even nuclear use steam for propulsion. marble falls May 2019 #20
You CAN'T just change it now. For many of the reasons electromagnetic was selected in the first AtheistCrusader May 2019 #22
+1 nitpicker May 2019 #26
Bayonets and Horses Mendocino May 2019 #25

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. He seems fixated on the steam catapult....conservative/reactionary fixation.
Tue May 28, 2019, 10:44 AM
May 2019

Hate to say it but if the EM won't work reliably....but I have not seen anything on the EM not working.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
19. yeah, all that new fangled stuff is liberal and socialist and thus of Satan....LOL.
Tue May 28, 2019, 01:37 PM
May 2019

Trump is a nutjob. If he would have been born a hundred years ago, he would have thought electricity was a gov't plot.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
6. Research will show...
Tue May 28, 2019, 11:18 AM
May 2019

that tRump either has a problem with General Atomics, the builder of the new, electromagnetic launch system (EMALS) or that he's got a pal who still makes steam catapults!

riversedge

(70,225 posts)
12. Trump quipped those Troops supporting "electromagnetic catapults were working for the enemy."
Tue May 28, 2019, 11:43 AM
May 2019

geez. A US President saying this to the troops who he was rallying with and silence from the press (??).



https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-future-aircraft-carriers-are-going-to-use-steam-2019-5

............ During Tuesday's talk, Trump polled US 7th Fleet troops aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Wasp, asking the crowd of sailors and Marines which was better, steam or electromagnetic catapults.

The troops overwhelmingly supported the use of steam; however, there were some who cheered for the newer system.

Trump — a staunch proponent of traditional steam catapults that are less complex than the alternatives, which he believes a person must be "Albert Einstein" to fully understand and operate — quipped that service members who supported the use of electromagnetic catapults were working for the enemy.


As he has done many times throughout his presidency, Trump championed the use of steam catapults to launch aircraft from the Navy's new carriers.



"Steam's only worked for about 65 years perfectly," the president explained. "They have a $900 million cost overrun on this crazy electric catapult. I said, 'What was wrong with steam?'"

"We want to go with steam," he further remarked. "They are always coming up with new ideas ... They want to show next, next, next. And we all want innovation, but it's too much. There's never been anything like the steam catapult."

Read more: The Navy's new $13 billion supercarriers have a high-tech feature that is apparently driving Trump crazy

He argued that the "delicate" electromagnetic catapults are more expensive, less likely to hold up in battle and no more efficient than the steam catapults.

"I think I'm going to put an order — when we build a new aircraft carrier, we're going to use steam," he said, suggesting a radical overhaul to a key Navy research and development project.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
24. Too advanced. He's more of a
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:41 PM
May 2019

Trebuchet kind of guy. "What's wrong with slinging some rocks and fireballs?"



15. Three new carriers are being built. Which one do you think Trump will name after himself?
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:29 PM
May 2019

Although he may want his name on all three...

I wonder if Fat Donnie can even describe the operation of the current steam powered catapult system, much less the more efficient electric one that is in the process of replacing it. He's always had this bug in his bonnet about returning to steam catapults. He really likes old things to protect his ass: medieval walls, steam catapults (only because they don't make rubber slingshots), and Mitch McConnell.

This is the same man who offered NASA unlimited funds to put a man on Mars by the end of his first term. He may be a "stable genius," but he sure isn't an engineer.

brush

(53,778 posts)
16. I'm sure naval ship builders will listen to his expertise. NOT!
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:35 PM
May 2019

What an idiot. Doesn't know what he doesn't know.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
17. What a weird thing
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:41 PM
May 2019

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I guess he didn't like answer he got when he asked the last navy guy who actually had some useful experience and knowledge of these systems, so he decided to ask a bunch of other people who don't even have a catapult on their ship.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
22. You CAN'T just change it now. For many of the reasons electromagnetic was selected in the first
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:08 PM
May 2019

place. Refitting for steam would take more space and displace systems that are finalized and installed.

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