Paul Ryan slams President Obama, says if he wins, there's no going back

[Omaha Steve]

Source: The Christian Science Monitor (vis Alaska Dispatch

David Grant

Speaking at the one of the largest annual gatherings for social conservatives Friday, Paul Ryan's message was a punch to the gut: If you allow President Obama to be reelected, there’s no going back.

“If we renew the contract, we will get the same deal – with only one difference. In a second term, he will never answer to you again,” Congressman Ryan said at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C., on Friday. “In so many ways, starting with Obamacare, reelecting this president would set in motion things that can never be called back. It would be a choice to give up so many other choices.”

Ryan’s speech – three parts critique of Mr. Obama’s record on issues of faith, foreign affairs, and finances and one part testimonial to presidential contender Mitt Romney’s character – was not just the usual stump speech. It was a pointed appeal to a key element of the GOP base that will have to turn out in force if the Romney-Ryan ticket is to prevail on Nov. 6.

Ryan, Mr. Romney’s vice presidential running mate and a Republican congressman from Wisconsin, spoke to a packed auditorium of some 2,000 attendees, plus a handful of hecklers. The summit is a conclave supported by leading Washington social conservative groups and organized by the Family Research Council.

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[Angry Dragon]

5. That made me LOL

and there is nothing funny about Willard the Predator being president

[Voice for Peace]

37. "In a second term, he will never answer to you again"

“If we renew the contract, we will get the same deal – with only one difference. In a second term, he will never answer to you again,” Congressman Ryan said at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C

[Scootaloo]

7. Great catch

We need some sloganeers to doctor that one up

[zbdent]

38. No going forward, and going further BACKWARD,

along with the road "forward" being dynamited, bridges burned, and land mines laid in the wasteland that used to be "the way forward" ... once you get past the barbed wire and suppressing gunfire ...

[cr8tvlde]

2. Preaching to the Choir.

That's probably not news to them, about the 2nd term and all. Thinking they probably already figured that out.

[a geek named Bob]

3. That just sounded like

an ad FOR President Obama...

I testify that, if President Obama wins a second term, I shall:
1.) Teach critical thinking skills to 100 students
2.) Develop machines that stop and reverse Global Warming
3.) Build alternative energy systems to make my community self sufficient

So Mote It Be.

[former9thward]

44. If you are able to develope machines that "stop and reverse Global Warming"

why are you waiting to see if President Obama wins a second term? If he loses are you going to deprive the world of your genius in a fit of spite? Come on, let's see these machines now.

[a geek named Bob]

45. hey... you gotta have something to offer, to make a bargain with the gods...

If Obama doesn't win... I'm gonna want a lot of beer!

If you want, I'm willing to replicate my design concept notes, and math, in this thread.

[former9thward]

47. I skip the design and math.

I think a moderator would lock it as off topic. Maybe you should put it in an OP of your own.

[a geek named Bob]

48. I haven't had that happen in the other threads where I posted it...

I wasn't sure if it would be worth an OP.

[juajen]

71. If Obama loses, a ton of beer will not be enough to sedate us. God forbid!

I sincerely hope that we are spending a great portion of raised money for election monitors and attorneys all over the place; and, also for good and verifiable exist polling.

[aquart]

4. Oh, I look forward to Paul's blasted hopes and bitter regrets.

They can only win if they cheat. And we know they cheat.

[kestrel91316]

6. Well, duh, that's sort of the point. What is Paul Ryan, 5 years old???

[jsr]

8. Yeah, 996 years of darkness left to go

[a geek named Bob]

9. I still think we ought to

1.) round ourselves up in groups, with rucksacks...
2.) slowly gather in larger groups of twenty or so
3.) when they announce the election for Obama (knock wood), we open the rucksacks
4.) we then put on our dark brown hooded robes
5.) Start chanting "OOO-Lah_TECK"

freak out the GOP!

[kentauros]

62. Who gets to carry the Locnar?

We could also chant the Charm of Making:

Anál nathrach,
orth’ bháis’s bethad,
do chél dénmha

[a geek named Bob]

65. hmmm

I can get a glowing green ball.

I'm not sure the second chant is safe...

[a geek named Bob]

70. I talked it over with friends...

According to my wife: The locnar should be held by anyone who looks "ethnic" and is in drag.

My bro's in the Maker community say we should be the "locnar" DO something. Perhaps generate sub-sonics that promote ill-ease...

-or- (given that the point is freaking the neo-cons) perhaps something that makes people feel better about themselves (is there a set of notes that promotes orgies?)

[kentauros]

72. Here's a primer on brainwave frequencies:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041028211047/http://www.metamorphosislab.com/caterpillar/states1.htm

And another that breaks those down further:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040219122135/http://dbmus.com/dbfreqs.html

The problem with subsonics, too, is that they would affect us, unless we were somehow shielded

[a geek named Bob]

73. not sure if this stuff would actually work...

But we might be able to convince people it does...

Anybody up for faking a "LACE" effect?

"It's those damn liberals, and their hedonistic heathen music!"

As to shielding, I'd imagine that a mic, a sound mixer that inverts the signal, and a set of speakers ought to do the trick.

[mwooldri]

10. well, duh!

No going back to what now?

Dow under 8,000?
Losing 750,000 jobs a month?
Investment banks going bust?
Car manufacturers going out of business?
Lousy health insurance?

We want to go back to that?

Naaa... I'd rather go in forward. There is a reason on an automatic gearbox that D sends the vehicle forward and R puts the vehicle in reverse. Same in politics. D -> forward. R -> Reverse.

[pangaia]

17. I love your D and R comparison. Priceless !!!

[heaven05]

24. simple

yet powerful.

[Canuckistanian]

58. Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?

Damn right you are.

[pampango]

63. Great list! But ryan means "no going back" to the days when white Christian men ran EVERYTHING.

You know, the "we want our country back" folks aren't talking about jobs, the stock market, banks, auto companies or health care. None of that is nearly as important as restoring the days when white men ran everything and women and minorities knew their "place", the kitchen and the janitor's room, respectively.

[thecrow]

68. Can we all use what you posted as facebook posts?

I think it is GREAT!
You should send it to OFA.

[mwooldri]

74. The D vs R - I don't know who did that originally.

Sure, copy away No attribution needed.

[elbloggoZY27]

11. A Big No

Come November I will vote. And I surely will not cast my vote for intolerance in these days and times.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

12. Romney isn't supported by Social Conservatives so this is begging.

What's funny is they thought they would be coming out of the convention with a 75% approval rating and go into this meeting to thunderous applause.

They were greeted "politely".

A lot of the big money donors think Romney / Ryan is a waste of time / money.

They're probably already writing the spin to explain their failure.

[Baitball Blogger]

13. You bet there's no going back.

Kiss good-bye all those perks you all took for granted. It won't be so easy to game the system any more.

[brewens]

14. "No going back"? No shit Sherlock! That's the whole point. No going back to

Bush policies or worse. The campaign should put that in an ad.

[INdemo]

22. Somehow I see an Obama campaign add from this remark..

[oldsarge54]

29. Not the BUsh era

two responses, choose one: NOT THE BUSH ERA. Anything but the comfy bush era.

Or:

Bush era? These boys are aiming for 1900, no Fed, no federal taxes, no unions, no safety regulations, no FDA, and the lessor races knew their place.

[pangaia]

15. Damn right

"...“In so many ways, starting with Obamacare, reelecting this president would set in motion things that can never be called back. It would be a choice to give up so many other choices.”
"
Damn right, dude. That's the whole point ! :&gt )

[SoapBox]

16. Paul "I Pal Around with Terrorists" Ryan says...

"reelecting this president would set in motion things that can never be called back."

Well, Thank GAWD!

You and your ilk, Mr. Lie'n, would terrorize 99% of America, if you got elected.

We are gonna make sure that you do NOT get elected.

[busterbrown]

18. Hey you guys at the Values Voter Summit Conference ........

Could you please wrap up your meeting at the Shoreham.
I live near by and the the stink shit of lies and pandering which
is pouring out of the hotel is smelling up the whole area.
Thank you.
A Concerned Neighbor

[bloomington-lib]

19. How do they have so much power when their "packed" event is only 2000 people?

[mountain grammy]

25. I was thinking the same thing

Why are they getting any coverage for a small gathering of a bunch of extremists? Well, the fact that a few well know extremist Congresspeople make their appearance and Chic-fil-A chips in a couple of million bucks to bring the faithful homophbic, racists together. More respectable than the Klan, but same idea.

[liberal N proud]

20. We don't want to go back!

FORWARD!

[TBF]

21. Who wants to go back? I'm moving forward. nt

[HockeyMom]

23. I've lived through the 50s ONCE

and I don't want to go BACK, Paulie, thank you. very much.

[TheCowsCameHome]

28. They're talking about the 1650's.

Pay attention.

[MNBrewer]

26. If only that were true

[Tigress DEM]

27. Sure, no going back to the BS that got us here in the first place -- FORWARD!

R is for Reverse!! No back ward movement for people wanting America to move on to great things.

D is for DRIVE that BUS 4 MORE YEARS on the road, not in the ditch like your predecessors.

[progressivebydesign]

30. If Obama wins, then there is "no going back!!" to the Dark Ages with R/R and the extremists.

Sounds good to me. I don't want to go back.. I want to go FORWARD!!!!!!!!!!!

[jmowreader]

31. I'll take my chances, Little Paul

I read "The Jungle." I really don't WANT to go back to that time, even if you do.

[bhikkhu]

32. I expect a fascist manifesto from this guy within 4 years

...he's not going to get elected to shit, but he'll stick like a barnacle to anyone who can further the RW hate agenda. He's a little smarter than beck, perhaps, but that only means he can lie and schmooze his way farther into the mainstream.

[man4allcats]

33. Back to what?! Back to fascism?

Well I hope not. We were close enough to that with BushCo. And don't think for a minute that just because Dubya's out of the White House, Karl and friends aren't doing their fascist best to reestablish their corporate foothold over democracy. Given less than half a chance, they will bring this country and its Constitution to its knees. Don't ever underestimate these SOBs. They're hoping you will, but don't make that mistake.

[elleng]

34. GET RYAN OUT OF THE HOUSE,

http://www.robzerban.com/

along with his buddy eric cantor.

http://www.powellforva.com/

[rsweets]

36. i'm ok with that

"If we renew the contract, we will get the same deal – with only one difference. In a second term, he will never answer to you again,”

not that i think he answered to that crowd to begin with ...

[Bette Noir]

39. Isn't that why we're voting for Obama? So we won't go backwards?

[markbark]

40. Eddie Munster is right. "If we re-elect Obama there's no going back"

No going back to the failed policies of the Bush administration.
No going back to a "you're on your own" rather than a "we're all in this together" America.
No going back to the Dow under 7500
No going back to insurance companies taking premiums but denying claims
No going back to "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
No going back to women getting less pay for equal work.

Damn, sometimes the ads just write themselves, don't they?

[surrealAmerican]

41. I hope so, but ...

... I imagine in four years, they will try to go "back" all over again. They never give up on the same tired old ideas that never worked in the first place.

[julian09]

42. Still no solutions, only rants, people are tired of them and are tuning out

not too many undecideds left and polls are showing they are going FORWARD.
They know who was driving when we went off the cliff and who kept the first responders from doing their job with obstruction after
obstruction. With all the problems we have congress just came back from five week vacation for only eight days of work then out til election. He wants to kill Obamacare and medicare and give us vouchers and privatize all insurance.

[DreamGypsy]

43. The Declaration of Independance ..

...and the American Revolution, Emancipation, Women's Suffrage, the Civil Rights Act, the Equal Opportunity Act, the War on Poverty, and <your list goes here> were actions that could not, without extreme upheaval, be reversed. That's a very good thing.

Many other non-reversible actions need to be taken to make the United States a country of liberty and justice for all.

The question is, who will lead us to take these actions? The answer is very clear.

[Politicalboi]

46. Can we all just imagine winning

All 3 House Senate and of course President and come January 20th, all the crying and tantrums, John Boner is going to have, along with Turtle McConnell.

[Populist_Prole]

49. No shit. You people are so yesterday.

So enjoy the hunks of red meat the little yuppie prick throws at you while it lasts. This campaign is the last good feeling the cons will have forever: From now on it'll be just a delaying action to ease the inevitable till the last of the troglodytes die off. If they were smart, they'd enjoy their ill gotten gains while they can, but too bad for them they'd rather be mad we're not envious enough of them.

[maxrandb]

50. Hey Ryan!

Fuck You! We don't want to go back to the 1850's.

That's why you are getting beat!

[savannah43]

51. He revealed his inner being, didn't he? And it's ugly.

He's an attack dog for the Koch Brothers.

[armed_and_liberal]

52. Once you go Barack, you never go back!

Ryan is just another swab on a sinking ship trying to grasp onto anything to keep his head above water.

[nobodyspecial]

54. That was good for a chuckle

[Rain Mcloud]

56. Close.

It goes like this: Obama 2012 Forward.
I will never go back.

[johnlucas]

69. I was gonna use that line! Hahahaha!

You beat me to it.
Hahahahahaha!
John Lucas

[Zoeisright]

53. Back to what?

The 1850s?

[ladym55]

55. Yo, Paul

Go back to WHAT????
--pre-existing conditions?
--families going bankrupt when they max out their health insurance?
--bread lines like 1930?
--bank failures like 1930?
--back alley abortions?
--Jim Crow (oh, wait ...)

Values voters = groups of pathetic fools who think Leave It to Beaver was a documentary.

[daybranch]

57. Ain't it wonderful?

Obama has smoked them out for what they are and who they represent and people don't like them or their policies.

[smirkymonkey]

59. He's Insane.

And possibly an even bigger liar than Romney. I can't believe anyone even listens to his bullshit anymore.

[defacto7]

60. Oooooh Fear mongering!

Wow, That's a new fundamental Christian tactic!


not!

[DearHeart]

61. I thought we weren't supposed to change horses midstream?

[SemperEadem]

64. that's right, boy wonder... D is for Drive Forward... R is for Reverse

don't forget that.

[GeorgeGist]

66. IOW ...

if Romney/Ryan win there's no going forward.

[Odin2005]

67. They really, really want to call him the Antichrist.