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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:31 PM Aug 2019

Peter Strzok sues over firing for anti-Trump texts

Source: Politico

The former FBI agent who opened the bureau’s Russia probe says the government violated his First and Fifth Amendment rights.

Peter Strzok, the former FBI agent who opened the bureau’s Russia probe in 2016 and later became a symbol of alleged “deep state” animus for Donald Trump, is suing the government over his firing.

In a lawsuit filed on Tuesday, Strzok excoriates the Justice Department and FBI for their handling of his dismissal over a trove of text messages he wrote to a colleague that were critical of Trump. Strzok accuses the president of inappropriately bullying law enforcement officials deciding his fate, raises questions about why his texts were leaked to the media and lambastes the administration for only defending its employees’ free speech rights when they are praising Trump.

Specifically, Strzok’s lawsuit accuses the agencies of violating his First and Fifth Amendment rights by firing him over the texts and then depriving him of due process to challenge his expulsion. And, Strzok argues, DOJ’s decision to give the incendiary messages to reporters before handing them to Congress — generating blaring headlines — was “deliberate and unlawful,” a violation of the Privacy Act. The Justice Department and FBI did not immediately comment.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/06/peter-strzok-lawsuit-firing-trump-texts-1448615

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Peter Strzok sues over firing for anti-Trump texts (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Aug 2019 OP
Good. I wish him success. hlthe2b Aug 2019 #1
I just wish Trump could be personally sued for it. cstanleytech Aug 2019 #2
Ditto. KPN Aug 2019 #4
speaking of ditto... he should sue limbuagh too, for lying regularly about his part in the certainot Aug 2019 #30
Sue Limbaugh and Hannity for slander. Bluepinky Aug 2019 #32
hannity is the guy redacted in the mueller report glossary btwn GRaf and HAWker. why? certainot Aug 2019 #34
Can't stand Limbaugh and Hannity. Bet they both are on the Russian payroll. Bluepinky Aug 2019 #35
wish him luck too stopdiggin Aug 2019 #12
Could discovery include combing through other FBI exboyfil Aug 2019 #3
Interesting question. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #6
Nah, not going to fire anyone. but it sure would be entertaining! (nt) stopdiggin Aug 2019 #13
I'm betting NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #14
He and his girlfriend criticized Bernie and Hillary also, but they were most worried about Karadeniz Aug 2019 #27
That's sorta what I remember of these guys too. thenelm1 Aug 2019 #33
rw media used it like they wanted - cherrypicking and determining priority and perspective for certainot Aug 2019 #36
Give Them Hell Peter! BlueIdaho Aug 2019 #5
I admire Strzok cp Aug 2019 #7
I do too. kag Aug 2019 #19
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Me. Aug 2019 #8
Andrew McCabe should follow Strzok's lead. nt poli-junkie Aug 2019 #9
was he the guy fired a day before he was pension eligible NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #15
Yes, that was McCabe. kag Aug 2019 #17
I remember he was on a long vacation before that happened ... mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #42
Leaking his emails to the media ScratchCat Aug 2019 #10
OK then but Ms Paige was much more than his colleague, a Backseat Driver Aug 2019 #11
quite true, but stopdiggin Aug 2019 #18
If there really were a Deep State bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #16
Good. nt tblue37 Aug 2019 #20
Good. Keep picking at the scab. nt in2herbs Aug 2019 #21
Weren't there emails that criticized other candidates as well? Wounded Bear Aug 2019 #22
Yes. H2O Man Aug 2019 #28
Good for him. Terrible how the traitor ruined so many reputations of good people. Pepsidog Aug 2019 #23
Good, hope he wins his suit. nt SunSeeker Aug 2019 #24
I hope he wins but a 'counterintelligence' officer who uses a work phone for personal reasons Ponietz Aug 2019 #25
Not so sure on that one ... I'd not be surprised if high-level FBI people aren't discouraged from mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #43
Thanks for taking the time to reply, and the pig looks passable with lipstick Ponietz Aug 2019 #44
This will be fun to watch Gothmog Aug 2019 #26
Bravo! flying_wahini Aug 2019 #29
I hope he wins big time. Ilsa Aug 2019 #31
Best of Luck Linda Ed Aug 2019 #37
Go get 'em Pete! oasis Aug 2019 #38
Strzok caught more Russian spies than anyone else ever Cicada Aug 2019 #39
Doubt that this will go anywhere. The reality is that he COULD be fired. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #40
Good Progressive dog Aug 2019 #41
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
30. speaking of ditto... he should sue limbuagh too, for lying regularly about his part in the
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 06:31 PM
Aug 2019

'deep state coup' for almost 2 years, until half the country believed it

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
34. hannity is the guy redacted in the mueller report glossary btwn GRaf and HAWker. why?
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 12:24 AM
Aug 2019

he was mentioned 5 times in the report and then they redact his name and all description for Harm To Ongoing Matter..... he was supposed to be there and they could have redacted part of the description after the name , like all the rest like that, but they actually redacted his name too.

who else would be there? if there wasn't more investigation going on they're just treat it like the rest and include his name and redact part or all of his description. why redact a name that anyone could figure out was hannity? were the redactors working for mueller sending a message for dem investigators and media to follow? he's mentioned 5 times, there's no reason not to put him there in that slot.

Bluepinky

(2,272 posts)
35. Can't stand Limbaugh and Hannity. Bet they both are on the Russian payroll.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 12:32 AM
Aug 2019

Not surprised if both of them are traitors to our country, along with Trump.

stopdiggin

(11,314 posts)
12. wish him luck too
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:58 PM
Aug 2019

My guess is a successful outcome in court is probably a slim chance (your 1st rights while at work are pretty limited. due process, maybe slightly better, but also darn hard to win) But I applaud the fact that he is going for a PUBLIC hearing on the issues. Get some facts into the record for future reference. And we need this kind of paper trail for what's going down with Justice and FBI these days. Good luck!

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
3. Could discovery include combing through other FBI
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:37 PM
Aug 2019

agents emails and possibly showing animus towards Hillary Clinton as well?

Could be firing a whole bunch of FBI agents.

thenelm1

(854 posts)
33. That's sorta what I remember of these guys too.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 12:16 AM
Aug 2019

As I recall, they were equally critical of all the major presidential candidates in 2016 - but the only msgs that got publicized, and the only person butt-hurt about it was Trump. Somehow, over time, the bit of them being critical of Clinton, Trump and Sanders got forgotten by the press. Surprise, surprise.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
36. rw media used it like they wanted - cherrypicking and determining priority and perspective for
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 12:33 AM
Aug 2019

tens of millions because they have 1500 rw radio stations they can coordinate as they want

limbugh attacked them and determined/created strzok's part in the 'deep state' coup with 2 years of unchallenged repetition.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
5. Give Them Hell Peter!
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:41 PM
Aug 2019

Trump doesn’t give a shit about due process - but the DOJ has no fucking excuse whatsoever.

kag

(4,079 posts)
19. I do too.
Reply to cp (Reply #7)
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 03:21 PM
Aug 2019

I think he was probably kind of a shit, cheating on his wife and all, but he was an excellent g-man. Rachel did a great job of describing his career in an episode many months ago.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
15. was he the guy fired a day before he was pension eligible
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 03:06 PM
Aug 2019

or something like that? Or, eligible for the next level of pension?

I think he already filed a lawsuit if that's the case.

kag

(4,079 posts)
17. Yes, that was McCabe.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 03:19 PM
Aug 2019

He was acting director of the FBI at the time, and Trump had him fired the day before he qualified for his twenty(?) year pension.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
42. I remember he was on a long vacation before that happened ...
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:18 PM
Aug 2019

Presumably someone else was acting as Director during that time but I don't remember for sure.

But yeah shitheel Trump did exactly that ... asshole that he is.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
10. Leaking his emails to the media
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:48 PM
Aug 2019

was the big mistake. A good friend of mine noted that was likely illegal back when it happened.

Backseat Driver

(4,392 posts)
11. OK then but Ms Paige was much more than his colleague, a
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:51 PM
Aug 2019

situation often cited as a set up for compromising blackmail, and their amusements via the in-box would be widely held as unprofessional. There is the deprivation of due process to challenge one's accusers, though, and failure to keep sensitive "personnel issues" from leaking. For what it's worth, been on that deprivation of due process ride in a far different situation, I think. That local govenment was a testing site for integrating new software, PROMIS. The hope of a case ended poorly and without the legal support for representation sought.

stopdiggin

(11,314 posts)
18. quite true, but
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 03:20 PM
Aug 2019
their amusements via the in-box would be widely held as unprofessional.

Quite true, but the consequences in ordinary circumstances probably would have amounted to reprimand (and perhaps some reassignment, shifting of cases/duties). The consequences as they played out here were clearly the result of a political purge played out at the behest of an Executive bent on obstruction.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
16. If there really were a Deep State
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 03:13 PM
Aug 2019

Trump would never have "won" the election. Everyone knew he was wacko unqualified.

Strzok has legitimate claims there, in my view. It really is possible to have points of view that one sets aside to perform an excellent career at a very high level, to be impartial, to apply policies and laws and rules that contradict with one's beliefs or conscience, simply because that is what the job requires - to act with integrity in a lawful manner.

To view everyone as a partisan hack is to admit the hackery of your own side. Nothing but respect for the impartial rule of law and the apparatus - federal, state, and local - who carry it out.

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
22. Weren't there emails that criticized other candidates as well?
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 03:34 PM
Aug 2019

Seems something like that would be indicative of bias in the action by the department.

Ponietz

(2,974 posts)
25. I hope he wins but a 'counterintelligence' officer who uses a work phone for personal reasons
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 04:07 PM
Aug 2019

isn’t thinking clearly and sets himself up. The FBI really failed the American people.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
43. Not so sure on that one ... I'd not be surprised if high-level FBI people aren't discouraged from
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:32 PM
Aug 2019

even owning 'personal phones' due to the risk of hacking.

It'd certainly seem smarter to conduct discussions re: your whereabouts and cases and such on maximum security lines not a personal phone.

On top of that, I've seen lots of transcripts of their calls and the large majority are work-related. The smack-talk about Trump was even work-related, it was partly his job to (decide to) investigate, and she's also a DoJ employee with appropriate clearance to partake in such discussions. It's very arguably NOT a 'personal reason'.

I'm not so sure anything he did positively violated FBI policy, & frankly I think if it did, he wouldn't be bothering to sue.

Ponietz

(2,974 posts)
44. Thanks for taking the time to reply, and the pig looks passable with lipstick
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:21 PM
Aug 2019

but I’m not persuaded. Strzok also had a personal phone. His personal political opinions were sent on an FBI phone in order to conceal an affair with Page. He set himself up. He didn’t deserve termination, though.

Trump is in power and FBI officials look like fools. Bad judgment from Comey down, failing to take the threat seriously and act decisively. Worse—actively assisting in throwing the election, as did Comey.


Cicada

(4,533 posts)
39. Strzok caught more Russian spies than anyone else ever
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:19 AM
Aug 2019

He is a genuine hero. Among his other cases he was part of the team that caught the Americans, ten sleepers including the glamorous Anna Chapman. The wonderful TV show the Americans was loosely based on that group. The leaks were mischaracterized to smear him. He will never be President. We will stop him. He meant we the voters would not elect him. Insurance policy? He was arguing the investigation should move forward soon rather than more leisurely, even tho Trump wouldn’t win. He said young fathers buy life insurance even tho the odds of them dying young were small. So let’s investigate fast as insurance against the unlikely event of a Trump victory. Because after a Trump victory the evidence would disappear, maybe.

Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
41. Good
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:46 AM
Aug 2019

Trump and his minions must be stopped in the courts and then in the voting. Then it's time for the grand juries.

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