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swag

(26,487 posts)
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 07:27 PM Aug 2019

Virtual Caucus at Risk After DNC Experts Hacked Conference Call

Source: Bloomberg

By Tyler Pager
August 24, 2019, 2:19 PM PDT

The Democratic National Committee has raised substantial cybersecurity concerns over virtual caucusing, potentially dooming the effort just five months before Iowa begins its process of choosing a presidential nominee.

At a closed-door session of the Rules and By-Laws Committee on Thursday, the DNC told the panel that experts convened by the party were able to hack into a conference call among the committee, the Iowa Democratic Party and Nevada Democratic Party, raising concerns about teleconferencing for virtual caucuses, according to three people who were at the meeting.

For the first time the DNC is requiring states that hold caucuses instead of primary elections to offer voters a way to participate without showing up at sites across the state. Iowa and Nevada are building a teleconference system for 2020, and Alaska plans a phone and web-based operation.

The state parties are waiting for final approval of their plans for the February caucuses in Iowa and Nevada and hoped it would come at the DNC’s summer meeting this week in San Francisco.

“We are continuing to work with Democrats in these states to address the Rules and By-Laws committee’s questions about their proposed plans," the DNC said in a statement Saturday.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-24/dnc-virtual-caucus-at-risk-after-experts-hacked-conference-call?srnd=premium

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Virtual Caucus at Risk After DNC Experts Hacked Conference Call (Original Post) swag Aug 2019 OP
don't learn from history rockfordfile Aug 2019 #1
No, they don't. Perseus Aug 2019 #8
Maybe. MrsCoffee Aug 2019 #14
They need to abandon this plan. LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #2
From the lilnk... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #3
Didn't Sanders do better in caucuses? LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #4
IMO the Unity Reform Commission was not interested in reform. LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #5
I thought they were getting rid of caucusing? Now we get "virtual caucusing?" Tiggeroshii Aug 2019 #6
"hack into a conference call" PSPS Aug 2019 #7
Just stop with the caucuses. Closed primary with paper ballots please! nt SunSeeker Aug 2019 #9
+1 Lulu KC Aug 2019 #12
Yes! We can wait for votes to be counted. Maggiemayhem Aug 2019 #13
F*ck caucuses...I'm not interested in having another Dem or Dems try to change my vote pecosbob Aug 2019 #10
Secrecy? There is none! Roy Rolling Aug 2019 #11
Just get rid of the caucus and hold a primary where one person, one vote counts, instead of still_one Aug 2019 #15
The DNC really needs to invest in better cyber security agalisgv Aug 2019 #16
 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
8. No, they don't.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 02:00 AM
Aug 2019

This is something I have been asking myself for months...They know the republicans, aided by the Russians, are going to cheat, that their cyber attack is and will be restless, the FBI warned, Muller warned, but they do nothing, they still get surprised. I am more concerned with voting machines because those are going to change the votes in key states.

LiberalFighter

(50,939 posts)
2. They need to abandon this plan.
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 07:59 PM
Aug 2019

Unless the vote is done in sight of those in charge it should not be held.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. From the lilnk...
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 08:09 PM
Aug 2019

In states that caucus, voters gather in homes, businesses and other places in each precinct to choose their preference for a nominee. Some have said the fact that a voter’s physical presence is required has diminished participation.


Evidence of that would be interesting. I thought caucus locations were local and well-turned out.

The virtual caucusing rules were developed in response to recommendations from the Unity Reform Commission, created to address the tension between delegates for nominee Hillary Clinton and challenger Bernie Sanders at the 2016 Democratic National Convention. Sanders delegates complained that the DNC favored Clinton and made participation difficult in caucus states.


Why am I not surprised about said complaints?

Just out of morbid curiosity, did these states come up with their own schemes for teleconferencing, or did they go to established teleconference companies that just might have security in mind when they sign you up?

LiberalFighter

(50,939 posts)
5. IMO the Unity Reform Commission was not interested in reform.
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 08:38 PM
Aug 2019

They were only interested in getting an advantage.

PSPS

(13,599 posts)
7. "hack into a conference call"
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 09:53 PM
Aug 2019

Um, you can't "hack into a conference call." It sounds like they're using the internet for this which is always a big, big mistake. Web-based conferences are completely insecure. They should be using a legitimate conference call provider that uses telephone numbers participants dial into.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
10. F*ck caucuses...I'm not interested in having another Dem or Dems try to change my vote
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 09:03 AM
Aug 2019

We need a straight primary vote in Nevada...no more chicanery.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
11. Secrecy? There is none!
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 09:12 AM
Aug 2019

At the size gatherings they suggest ensuring every participant is a card-carrying, loyal to America Democrat is virtually impossible. (No pun intended)

It’s a public gathering for God’s sake, what is it they want to hide?

Spies are everywhere, deal with it. We can’t instantaneously put that genie back in the bottle for 2020. With convenience comes compromise. Make a fucking decision but stop whining about security. Go hard on things that require strict security and stop the charade elsewhere.

We are all vulnerable, don’t put your business on the street.

still_one

(92,202 posts)
15. Just get rid of the caucus and hold a primary where one person, one vote counts, instead of
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 10:31 AM
Aug 2019

a process that discriminates people with mobility issues, and people trying to bully people into voting one way or another


agalisgv

(148 posts)
16. The DNC really needs to invest in better cyber security
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 01:17 AM
Aug 2019

Or maybe have a better vetting process for their own IT people?

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