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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,021 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:14 PM Aug 2019

Pelosi Accuses Trump of 'Stealing' Relief Funds

Source: The Fiscal Times

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the Trump administration’s effort to shift $271 million within the Department of Homeland Security to support activities at the border is a “brazen assault” on the congressional power of the purse.

In a statement Wednesday, Pelosi urged the administration to reconsider its decision to reprogram the funds, which were originally appropriated for Federal Emergency Management Agency relief funds and the Coast Guard.

“Stealing from appropriated funds is always unacceptable, but to pick the pockets of disaster relief funding in order to fund an appalling, inhumane family incarceration plan is staggering,” Pelosi said, adding that “to do so on the eve of hurricane season is stunningly reckless.”

While Pelosi and other Democratic leaders expressed outrage at the Trump administration’s move, the Associated Press noted that “t is not uncommon for unassigned funds to be transferred between agencies under the same department as the fiscal year ends.” Last year, roughly $10 million was shifted from FEMA to other uses, AP said, in a move that drew “major criticism from Democrats.”



Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pelosi-accuses-trump-of-stealing-relief-funds/ar-AAGt1TI?li=BBnb7Kz

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Pelosi Accuses Trump of 'Stealing' Relief Funds (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2019 OP
Nancy is correct. n/t MBS Aug 2019 #1
Why don't they do something about it? SCantiGOP Aug 2019 #17
Everything's being stolen, but there's no enforcement bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #2
That's what happens when they've co-opted law enforcement. paleotn Aug 2019 #12
What ACTION will be taken? What in tarnation will be DONE about this? sprinkleeninow Aug 2019 #3
OK. What actions - specifically - can be taken? What are you looking for ehrnst Aug 2019 #21
Oy. Other replies here I yam on the same page with. sprinkleeninow Aug 2019 #28
So, tell us, how will impeachment "stop" him? (nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #34
It's available as a means by which to assist in messing him up. sprinkleeninow Aug 2019 #35
"It'll put a dent in his 'momentum'. "Messing him up" ??? ehrnst Aug 2019 #36
Talk is cheap! Newest Reality Aug 2019 #4
Cut the money out of golf money. He wants to play games. notdarkyet Aug 2019 #6
What do you want to see happen, specifically? (nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #39
Is talk more or less cheap than posting bumper-stickers on a message board? LanternWaste Aug 2019 #43
Gee, if There Was Only Someone Who Could Reign Trump In HiloHatti Aug 2019 #5
Who will bell the cat? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2019 #8
So, what actions are there that could "reign him in"? ehrnst Aug 2019 #22
If she truly believed that, she would publicly support and initiate impeachment proceedings. LonePirate Aug 2019 #7
Pelosi needs to do more. mahannah Aug 2019 #9
She is. Step by step she's building a case toward impeachment. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #18
What specifically? ehrnst Aug 2019 #23
There's a remedy for that. It's called impeachment. Autumn Aug 2019 #10
How will impeachment "remedy" this? ehrnst Aug 2019 #19
Yah, put flies in his ointment! Dammmm this all. eom sprinkleeninow Aug 2019 #29
Keep at him like a fucking wasp. Make him crazy. Autumn Aug 2019 #31
"What goes around..." sprinkleeninow Aug 2019 #33
Yes, because if there's ANYTHING we want is him to be MORE unhinged. ehrnst Aug 2019 #37
And what does that accomplish, exactly? ehrnst Aug 2019 #38
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #11
itmf Kurt V. Aug 2019 #13
Am I missing something here? Stealing is a crime. djacq Aug 2019 #14
What does impeachment accomplish, exactly? ehrnst Aug 2019 #40
so tired of her accusations with zero followup Skittles Aug 2019 #15
Examples? (nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #20
How about taking back Scarsdale Aug 2019 #16
What's the process to do this? (nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #41
K and R nt. Stuart G Aug 2019 #24
Perhaps this is the "Grounds for Impeachment" that we are looking for. Stuart G Aug 2019 #25
".... very ugly, very quickly....". Good. BRING IT!! eom sprinkleeninow Aug 2019 #30
OK. So how does impeachment stop him? ehrnst Aug 2019 #42
I've thought all along his scheme is to funnel the wall money, billions duforsure Aug 2019 #26
This will blow up in his assface when Dorian makes landfall. kysrsoze Aug 2019 #27
I'm not in FLA but stressed for the people there, esp. DUers. sprinkleeninow Aug 2019 #32

paleotn

(17,930 posts)
12. That's what happens when they've co-opted law enforcement.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:25 PM
Aug 2019

In this case the justice department by Jabba the Barr.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
21. OK. What actions - specifically - can be taken? What are you looking for
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 08:39 AM
Aug 2019

in the way of action, and from whom?

sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
28. Oy. Other replies here I yam on the same page with.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 04:43 PM
Aug 2019

'Being outraged coupled with strongly worded messages, as 'they' say.' 🙄

Impeach the s-o-b already.

sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
35. It's available as a means by which to assist in messing him up.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 06:50 PM
Aug 2019

It'll put a dent in his 'momentum'.

I am not one to seek vengeance but have come to the point of enough is enough.

Simply giving my sentiment/my stance on this at this time. Not wishing contention.

Oh, but wait for the GE. We'll see...

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
36. "It'll put a dent in his 'momentum'. "Messing him up" ???
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 07:48 PM
Aug 2019

What does that even mean? How does it even slow him down?

You think that those who are still with him will ever believe anything about him that doesn't confirm their bias?

Seriously - what does that mean in actual, real life terms? Keep him from tweeting? Stop him from from holding rallies? Stop him from doing what Stephen Miller tells him to do? Rather than make him react like a cornered animal, like we know he does, and lash out even more?

When one demands something, it makes one more credible to demand something that is actually concrete and specific.

What is it that you actually expect impeachment to do?


 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
22. So, what actions are there that could "reign him in"?
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 08:43 AM
Aug 2019

and who would be authorized to initiate those actions?



LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
7. If she truly believed that, she would publicly support and initiate impeachment proceedings.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:42 PM
Aug 2019

Should Americans believe what she says when she will not use the Constitutional powers granted to her to address the problem?

sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
33. "What goes around..."
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 04:54 PM
Aug 2019

Bug the everlovin' 'hovno' outta him.
Plenty in there. 💩
[Slovak for s**t.]

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
37. Yes, because if there's ANYTHING we want is him to be MORE unhinged.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 08:17 PM
Aug 2019

Reichstag Fire anyone? More incindiary rhetoric to whip up his base, and perhaps more mass shootings?

Sounds like a GREAT idea.


You think that Pence will suddenly say, "Gee, I think that we need to invoke the 25th amendment. What do you say, Cabinet?"




Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
40. What does impeachment accomplish, exactly?
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 08:21 PM
Aug 2019

Other than trigger him into behaving like a cornered animal?

What is it you think that the DOJ will actually do in response to an impeachment? Do you know who the AG is?



Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
16. How about taking back
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:15 PM
Aug 2019

some of that $100 MILLION that Ivanka was given, to promote women in business overseas? She was travelling this week to promote the idea, yet there have been no photos, no reports. Did she just pocket the entire sum??

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
25. Perhaps this is the "Grounds for Impeachment" that we are looking for.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:28 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Thu Aug 29, 2019, 08:26 PM - Edit history (1)

...Please give Pelosi time to start. This will get very ugly very quickly. Nevertheless, these moves are against the law


This could be it, Pelosi said:

“Stealing from appropriated funds is always unacceptable, but to pick the pockets of disaster relief funding in order to fund an appalling, inhumane family incarceration plan is staggering,” Pelosi said, adding that “to do so on the eve of hurricane season is stunningly reckless.” .



 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
42. OK. So how does impeachment stop him?
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 08:23 PM
Aug 2019

Are you familiar with who the AG is?

What do you think will actually be accomplished by impeachment proceedings? You think his fans will suddenly say, after all this time, "Well look at that! Those Democrats were right, and I was wrong!!"


duforsure

(11,885 posts)
26. I've thought all along his scheme is to funnel the wall money, billions
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:01 PM
Aug 2019

laundering it to putin to pay him for his debts and his services he's provided,, and will provide for him for upcoming events. That is maybe why he's so desperate to get it going, to pay putin and his russian mafia boss. Its not about his promise to build it I don't think.

sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
32. I'm not in FLA but stressed for the people there, esp. DUers.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 04:50 PM
Aug 2019

Y'all in my heart of hearts, and YES also in my prayerful intercessions.

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