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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:25 PM Aug 2019

New Mexico ruling abolishes privilege on spousal testimony

Source: Associated Press


PAUL DAVENPORT ASSOCIATED PRESS
AUGUST 31, 2019 04:07 PM, UPDATED 15 MINUTES AGO

The New Mexico Supreme Court is abolishing a legal privilege that bars use of testimony by a defendant's spouse.

The Santa Fe-based court's ruling says the spousal communication privilege "has outlived its useful life" and is based in misogyny.

The ruling Friday bars future use of the privilege in the state court system.

The court took the action in a ruling that upholds David Gutierrez's murder conviction in a 2002 killing in Clovis. He had made incriminating statements to both a wife he later divorced and to his second wife.

The court took the action in a ruling that upholds David Gutierrez's murder conviction in a 2002 killing in Clovis. He had made incriminating statements to both a wife he later divorced and to his second wife.

Read more: https://www.fresnobee.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article234603037.html

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New Mexico ruling abolishes privilege on spousal testimony (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2019 OP
That should open some inter-spousal conflict bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #1
No, it wasn't. Igel Sep 2019 #9
Good riddance! Karadeniz Aug 2019 #2
A very positive ruling !! alittlelark Aug 2019 #3
Excellent news! Thanks, JL. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2019 #4
Wow. I thought this had already happened... B Stieg Aug 2019 #5
I had to give it some thought and realized I believe that LiberalFighter Sep 2019 #6
Yeah, and I'm guessing there could be problems in spousal abuse cases, too. Hugin Sep 2019 #8
I thought you lost spousal privilege after a divorce anyway? oldsoftie Sep 2019 #7

bucolic_frolic

(43,176 posts)
1. That should open some inter-spousal conflict
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:40 PM
Aug 2019

but transparency is a good thing. It was a virtual gag order.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
9. No, it wasn't.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:38 PM
Sep 2019

The privilege is usually--I don't know about New Mexico--held by the witness.

The wife, for example, couldn't bar the husband from testifying against her. But the state couldn't force the husband to testify against his wofe. It was a privilege that let the spouse say, "No, I won't testify against my partner." That might be because of economic interests, the interest in having two parents for the kids, out of affection, or simply because once on the stand all kinds of private things might be revealed that the partner doesn't want to have revealed. In other words, not so much self-incrimination as self-humiliation and airing one's dirty laundry in public.

That allowed for testimony. It didn't compel testimony.

Notice that my example must be somehow misogynistic in ways I don't see. The right was symmetrical, and neither spouse could be compelled to testify against the other. Even as many say, "We must stop compulsion," what I really see them saying is, "We must not compel things I like and approve of, but we must compel others to do things they might not want to do." We're all still petty authoritarians, but more principled in our self-interest. And more easily manipulated, too, I think. If the word "misogyny" wasn't in there, I think many would and move on.

What the right did do, sadly, was allow one partner to threaten the other to compel exercise of the privilege. In that I could see the exercise of misogyny, even if spousal abuse goes both ways. But that makes something that's corollary merely corollary.

LiberalFighter

(50,943 posts)
6. I had to give it some thought and realized I believe that
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:58 AM
Sep 2019

that privilege was really intended for the husband. And wrongly so.

Hugin

(33,159 posts)
8. Yeah, and I'm guessing there could be problems in spousal abuse cases, too.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:51 AM
Sep 2019

Sounds like a fair change.

oldsoftie

(12,553 posts)
7. I thought you lost spousal privilege after a divorce anyway?
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:49 AM
Sep 2019

But i also thought that spousal privilege was a Constitutional thing.

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