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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 07:38 PM Sep 2019

Trump cancels secret meeting with Taliban leaders, Afghan president after attack

Source: The Hill

President Trump announced Saturday he had canceled a planned secret meeting with leaders of the Taliban and Afghanistan's president at Camp David after Taliban leadership claimed credit for a deadly attack in Kabul.

In a series of tweets, the president condemned Taliban commanders for an attack in the Afghan capital that killed 11 civilians and a U.S. service member and questioned whether the leaders of the terrorist group had control over its own members.

"Unbeknownst to almost everyone, the major Taliban leaders and, separately, the President of Afghanistan, were going to secretly meet with me at Camp David on Sunday. They were coming to the United States tonight. Unfortunately, in order to build false leverage, they admitted to an attack in Kabul that killed one of our great great soldiers, and 11 other people," Trump tweeted.

"I immediately cancelled the meeting and called off peace negotiations. What kind of people would kill so many in order to seemingly strengthen their bargaining position?" he asked.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/460396-trump-cancels-secret-meeting-with-taliban-leaders-afghan-president

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Trump cancels secret meeting with Taliban leaders, Afghan president after attack (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Sep 2019 OP
Negotiating with terrorists? Would St. Ronnie approve? Va Lefty Sep 2019 #1
I imagine since the CIA armed & trained funded by the Saudis the precursor JonLP24 Sep 2019 #20
Reagan talked a good game-- dawg day Sep 2019 #30
Not really convinced this is not all just "created" to suggest he's doing SOMETHING other than hlthe2b Sep 2019 #2
+10000 bitterross Sep 2019 #5
+1000😜 dewsgirl Sep 2019 #7
I did not believe it for a second. TNNurse Sep 2019 #25
+1 n/t area51 Sep 2019 #51
+1 n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2019 #56
Exactly thegoose Sep 2019 #28
Aye it would not surprise me if he lied about such a meeting just to keep his name in the news cstanleytech Sep 2019 #50
You know it! dchill Sep 2019 #67
Hey ! Now he can go golfing. left-of-center2012 Sep 2019 #3
I don't believe for a minute that Taliban leaders The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #4
Well, he said they're arriving in the US tonight-- dawg day Sep 2019 #31
They were late leaving Turnberry crazytown Sep 2019 #34
fn lies... Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #6
Camp David? Was Make-a-Lunger booked solid? TheCowsCameHome Sep 2019 #8
"They were coming to the United States tonight." Grokenstein Sep 2019 #9
I enjoyed your comments but not so much the video. I must be old. erronis Sep 2019 #27
Truth or fantasy? Nobody knows. Vinca Sep 2019 #10
Days before 9/11? irisblue Sep 2019 #11
Suuuuuuuuure..... nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2019 #12
Trump to host radical Islamic terrorists at Camp David dalton99a Sep 2019 #13
"Secret Meeting" Roy Rolling Sep 2019 #14
It's not as if the attack that killed the American soldier was the only one muriel_volestrangler Sep 2019 #15
Hmmmm... Liberal Jesus Freak Sep 2019 #16
TSA turned them around at Turnberry crazytown Sep 2019 #35
No more no fly list. Igel Sep 2019 #61
Don't ever believe a single thing he says. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #17
Are they already on their way? greatauntoftriplets Sep 2019 #18
Taliban reply to his claim---- هراء. ترامب هو كاذب سخيف! pangaia Sep 2019 #19
Translation...? JudyM Sep 2019 #49
Trump is a fucking liar. pangaia Sep 2019 #53
😆 JudyM Sep 2019 #54
Good one. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2019 #57
LOL. Sure. Just like that "phone call with China" that never happened. PSPS Sep 2019 #21
lying liar lies some more bringthePaine Sep 2019 #22
I call bs this meeting kimbutgar Sep 2019 #23
No "beautiful letter" from Taliban leader either? AKing Sep 2019 #24
Because they refused to stay to a tRump World hotel. ffr Sep 2019 #26
Is the hallucinating phase right before death of whatever? Brainfodder Sep 2019 #29
As if he was going to meet them anyway sakabatou Sep 2019 #32
This is complete bullshit. No way a Taliban leader is going to come to the US. Makes no sense. Raven Sep 2019 #33
If any of that is true, there has to be proof. If they were on their way here, and they would have brewens Sep 2019 #38
I Find It Hard RobinA Sep 2019 #65
fake news from the fake president. nt yaesu Sep 2019 #36
"Unbeknownst to almost everyone" dflprincess Sep 2019 #37
No way any of those Taliban leaders would come here to be pushed around by that idiot. brewens Sep 2019 #39
Pork McRibs keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #47
Maybe he canceled because they wouldn't sell him Afghanistan. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #40
I don't believe Trump. I think he's lying. yardwork Sep 2019 #41
HEY NOW! We just avoided another Bowling Green Massacre! Brainfodder Sep 2019 #42
I thought they were meeting in Alabama. paleotn Sep 2019 #43
Double knot super secret C_U_L8R Sep 2019 #44
He totally believes it. Not kidding. GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #45
BS Talitha Sep 2019 #46
Learning curve. They don't realize the need yet to write love letters like Kim. keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #48
Non compos mentis Nasruddin Sep 2019 #52
It wasn't just a secret trip -- it was a *double secret* trip. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2019 #55
There is also this aspect... TomVilmer Sep 2019 #58
FWIW, the Taliban are behaving as if this was true muriel_volestrangler Sep 2019 #59
So is the Afghan government Maeve Sep 2019 #62
it may be something the president wasn't supposed to talk about imavoter Sep 2019 #68
Was this meeting via e-mail? Maxheader Sep 2019 #60
As said in the opening post ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2019 #63
Liar. CrispyQ Sep 2019 #64
NOW we can talk about fake news! dchill Sep 2019 #66

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
20. I imagine since the CIA armed & trained funded by the Saudis the precursor
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:27 PM
Sep 2019

Last edited Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:38 PM - Edit history (1)

To Al Qaeda under Reagan to fight the Soviets giving them confidence after sending a super power on the run. Same with Taliban they were allied with Saudi Arabia before 9/11. (if not after)

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
30. Reagan talked a good game--
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:04 PM
Sep 2019

But sold arms to Iran, which had US hostages, in order to fund the Contras in Nicaragua.

He didn't just negotiate, he armed them.

hlthe2b

(102,134 posts)
2. Not really convinced this is not all just "created" to suggest he's doing SOMETHING other than
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 07:42 PM
Sep 2019

tweeting, erupting, embarrassing all of us-- and himself, and fuming the past weeks.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
50. Aye it would not surprise me if he lied about such a meeting just to keep his name in the news
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:05 PM
Sep 2019

as Trump is extremely vain and he wants the news to keep his name out there because of that and because its also free PR which is helpful.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,606 posts)
4. I don't believe for a minute that Taliban leaders
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 07:50 PM
Sep 2019

and the president of Afghanistan were coming to a meeting at Camp David. He's making it up, trying to pretend he was like Carter doing the deal with Anwar Sadat and Menachim Begin after secret meetings at Camp David in '78.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
31. Well, he said they're arriving in the US tonight--
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:05 PM
Sep 2019

Unless their plane turned around in the air.

Does it sound like he wrote this tweet?

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
9. "They were coming to the United States tonight."
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 07:56 PM
Sep 2019

This just in: Not-President Donald J. Trump, AKA God Emperor Puppet Boy, secretly invited the leaders of the Taliban into America, then loudly announced it after a change of...heart? No. Mind? Ha ha ha no. ...Diapers! After a change of diapers!!

"And not because you have to! They're just more convenient!" -- Dr. Peanut, MST3K



What kind of people would kill so many in order to seemingly strengthen their bargaining position?" he asked.


Wow. Just...WOW.

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
14. "Secret Meeting"
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:05 PM
Sep 2019

The Pope and Jesus Christ himself had planned to be there, too. Trump told them he cancelled the meeting with terrorist leaders because they committed terrorism.

It’s just fuckin’ Looney Toons.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
15. It's not as if the attack that killed the American soldier was the only one
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:15 PM
Sep 2019

(that was on Thursday, not Monday as the AP said: https://www.france24.com/en/20190905-afghanistan-taliban-suicide-attack-kabul-ghani )

One on Monday killed at least 16: https://time.com/5668157/taliban-afghanistan-kabul-suicide-bombing/

and over last weekend they launched a large attack in Kunduz: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/31/taliban-launch-new-attack-kunduz-northern-afghanistan

and one in Baghlan province: https://apnews.com/5cdab207749f4092849f213692fa96cd

They had just killed lots of people when Trump arranged their visit. The point is that now an American died, and that made him think he'd look bad with his base.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,729 posts)
18. Are they already on their way?
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:17 PM
Sep 2019

Afghanistan is a long way away and it takes about a day or so to get here.

Not buying his blather.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
29. Is the hallucinating phase right before death of whatever?
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:03 PM
Sep 2019

Such a believable story too with all that name dropping!



He is vague? Always calling BS... it's a tell?





Raven

(13,877 posts)
33. This is complete bullshit. No way a Taliban leader is going to come to the US. Makes no sense.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:16 PM
Sep 2019

This may be the straw that breaks the camel's back. This is vintage Trump and he may have gone too far.

brewens

(13,539 posts)
38. If any of that is true, there has to be proof. If they were on their way here, and they would have
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:31 PM
Sep 2019

been, there is at least security camera footage of it. The Afghani president can confirm his role as well. I'll use my considerable psychic powers here to predict we won't ever see any proof.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
65. I Find It Hard
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:59 PM
Sep 2019

to believe that they’d bring the Taliban to Camp David. I mean it IS Trump and all, but others would have to be involved. Do any regular people know exactly where it even is? I’m assuming there aren’t any highway signs with arrows. Why would they bring the Taliban there?

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
37. "Unbeknownst to almost everyone"
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:30 PM
Sep 2019

Translates to "No one told me about this until the meeting was canceled because they knew I'd give all away in a tweet."

brewens

(13,539 posts)
39. No way any of those Taliban leaders would come here to be pushed around by that idiot.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:35 PM
Sep 2019

The asshole would probably try and serve them McRib's.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
43. I thought they were meeting in Alabama.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:45 PM
Sep 2019

Cancelled due to the hurricane?

Sorry, Boris, but you've got a hell of a long way to go to match this shit stain in complete stupidity.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
45. He totally believes it. Not kidding.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:26 PM
Sep 2019

He want a Noble peace prize more than anything else.

Just wait. He will tout this as a reason he should have one.

Nasruddin

(750 posts)
52. Non compos mentis
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:49 PM
Sep 2019

Unbeknownst to whom?

That doesn't sound like Mr Trump's usual delivery. Written totally by someone else.

My swag:
The Boss is, unfortunately, all out of marbles right now, and the staff has had to
do something to make this meeting go away without giving up the reality of
the president's current state.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
59. FWIW, the Taliban are behaving as if this was true
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:57 AM
Sep 2019
A source from the Taliban's political office in Doha told the BBC that the group was set to hold an "urgent internal meeting" to discuss Mr Trump's decision.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-49624132

Maeve

(42,271 posts)
62. So is the Afghan government
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 09:45 AM
Sep 2019

President Ghani was scheduled to fly over here, but cancelled the trip. Or at least, that is one interpretation. I'm not sure the meeting was really set up the way the Twit tweeted it--but he does seem to be cancelling negotiations and that is concerning.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/afghans-welcome-trumps-cancellation-of-taliban-talks/2019/09/08/65c70910-d20b-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html

It is also noted that the excuse of "they killed one of our soldiers" is rather offensive--

“American life matters for the U.S., but it is not important for them if Afghans are dying like lambs,” said Ahmad Shah Aria, 23, an economics student at a university in Kabul. In any case, he said, Trump’s decision will not stop the insurgent attacks. “Violence has been intense during the talks, and it will intensify if the talks stop.”
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