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demmiblue

(36,838 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:04 PM Sep 2019

Trump says he fired national security advisor John Bolton -- but Bolton says he 'offered to resign'

Source: CNBC

President Donald Trump said Tuesday he fired national security advisor John Bolton, saying on Twitter he had "disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions."

But minutes later, Bolton in his own tweet said that he "offered to resign" Monday night, and that Trump told him, "Let's talk about it tomorrow."

Either way, Bolton's departure shocked Washington, D.C.

"I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning," Trump said in a tweet.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/10/trump-says-he-fired-national-security-advisor-john-bolton.html






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Trump says he fired national security advisor John Bolton -- but Bolton says he 'offered to resign' (Original Post) demmiblue Sep 2019 OP
A tragedy for warmongers everywhere. Sneederbunk Sep 2019 #1
Exactly liberal N proud Sep 2019 #4
.... Hotler Sep 2019 #46
It is!! Better find Darth Cheney........... Bengus81 Sep 2019 #94
As demented as Bolton is, he is saner than the creature Perseus Sep 2019 #113
lol, Is it good news that Bolton is out or bad news that the guy opposed to bringing the Taliban Renew Deal Sep 2019 #2
I'm looking at it as bad news rocktivity Sep 2019 #122
Interesting point Renew Deal Sep 2019 #127
Here's the link to NPR's coverage Julian Englis Sep 2019 #3
A lie already SayItLoud Sep 2019 #100
trump is such a coward barbtries Sep 2019 #109
When you lose to Tucker and Hannity underpants Sep 2019 #5
LOL!!! BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #6
Bolton appears to have the dubious distinction of being too batshit crazy even for TRUMP. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #110
They knew that he was a war-mongering neocon BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #117
. irisblue Sep 2019 #7
Who on DU here called this??? a kennedy Sep 2019 #8
Malaise did. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #27
The mustache pouts n/t hibbing Sep 2019 #9
That fugly moustache is proof alone that John Bolton has poor decision-making skills. OMGWTF Sep 2019 #61
That nasty moustache Alliepoo Sep 2019 #80
DUzy!!!! Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #114
I'm very glad that Bolton BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #10
He'll be replaced by a total Nazi. 47of74 Sep 2019 #11
Yes, yes, and yes. Bolton not enough of a true believer. bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #17
So Stephen Miller then jayschool2013 Sep 2019 #75
The Fascist warmongers,.. magicarpet Sep 2019 #76
There's an unindicted war criminal with foreign policy experience generalbetrayus Sep 2019 #16
Kissinger is too level-headed maxsolomon Sep 2019 #45
If Criminal Don BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #120
"Tarnation! That idjit FIRED me???" rocktivity Sep 2019 #12
Just one more job Kushner will have to take on Bayard Sep 2019 #13
Get the sharpie out and draw a moustache on Jared. onenote Sep 2019 #62
You need to tweet this. murielm99 Sep 2019 #67
Didn't Trump just say "lies, all lies" about reports... brooklynite Sep 2019 #14
Is Tom Cotton next up to bat? He seems to agree with IQ45 on sinkingfeeling Sep 2019 #15
Bolton's response tweet: demmiblue Sep 2019 #18
BOLTON IS TEXTING FOX HOSTS WHO ARE ON AIR TO DISPUTE TRUMP'S ACCOUNT OF HIS FIRING demmiblue Sep 2019 #28
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #33
Indeed! demmiblue Sep 2019 #40
Yup BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #41
More popcorn: demmiblue Sep 2019 #53
This is gonna be him BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #55
Lol! demmiblue Sep 2019 #57
You don't f with a narcissitic neocon BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #58
Dying! And want some popcorn! 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2019 #69
Had to get a big batch made! BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #78
LOL Zoonart Sep 2019 #84
Finally got the assembly line up and running! BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #86
You are killing' me. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Zoonart Sep 2019 #90
We all need the laugh BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #92
OMG yes. Zoonart Sep 2019 #95
... BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #96
This is the best thread of the month! Jirel Sep 2019 #101
ROFL! ::: holds out bucket ::: 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2019 #87
Step right up! BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #88
Thanks, LOL! 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2019 #93
Oh yeah.... ehrnst Sep 2019 #51
Gonna be an interesting next couple days! BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #54
So shanti Sep 2019 #66
Ironic that as much as I detest Bolton, I am not convinced this will improve anything hlthe2b Sep 2019 #19
It won't improve things, but its just a nice bit of comic relief watching these two asses argue. marble falls Sep 2019 #102
Depends on who it is rpannier Sep 2019 #134
Fantastic news! Devil Child Sep 2019 #20
Assume the position, Bolton keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #21
Who wins the pool? NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2019 #22
My bet's on Wilbur Ross bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #23
To be replaced by Gen. Buck Turgidson klook Sep 2019 #24
Hopefully this will finally end the PNAC agenda of world domination. CaptainTruth Sep 2019 #25
Really? shanti Sep 2019 #71
Good riddance to bad rubbish. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #26
He messaged Robert Costa of NBC and said he resigned OKNancy Sep 2019 #29
"I will have my say in due course...." demmiblue Sep 2019 #35
oh goodie. n/t OKNancy Sep 2019 #36
Oot-ooh. Sooner rather than later? sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #106
Bolton is vicious and hot-tempered. I bet he won't stay quiet the way so many tblue37 Sep 2019 #30
They were saying (CNN) how sneaky and working behind everyone's back he is. Peregrine Took Sep 2019 #56
I hope he lets his back-stabbing freak fly. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #63
With a temperament like Bolton's shanti Sep 2019 #74
This could be soooooo much fun. Jirel Sep 2019 #105
Trump's own suggestions are completely insane IronLionZion Sep 2019 #31
Yup...he's blaming him for the Taliban clusterfuck. BooScout Sep 2019 #32
Nah, racist Fatso didn't fire Bolton ... LenaBaby61 Sep 2019 #34
ETTD! DeminPennswoods Sep 2019 #37
"YOU DIDN'T FIRE ME! I QUIT!!!" Javaman Sep 2019 #38
America is in full retreat bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #39
I have seen this before. pwb Sep 2019 #42
Ruling edicts by tweet UpInArms Sep 2019 #43
more from Bolton OKNancy Sep 2019 #44
If you 'resigned', Walrus Boy, then by definition you did not 'offer to resign' ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #124
good riddance! splunge63 Sep 2019 #47
John Bolton and President Trump got into a bitter argument last night over the president's plan to.. demmiblue Sep 2019 #48
Moving the deck chairs around on the Titanic Botany Sep 2019 #49
+1 Docreed2003 Sep 2019 #81
Contrary to "The Apprentice" bullshit, Trump is too cowardly to fire people face to face. dalton99a Sep 2019 #50
Absolutely! My sentiments exactly. Peregrine Took Sep 2019 #59
He got the upper hand, didn't he? shanti Sep 2019 #79
Have a little pity for Iran's Minister of Defense DFW Sep 2019 #52
Bolton resigned, Trump lied about it. So what else is new? Raven Sep 2019 #60
Wouldn't it be refreshing if Bolton told the truth about what is going on in the White House? Vinca Sep 2019 #64
Oh he's butthurt indeed. kacekwl Sep 2019 #72
" I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions," LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #65
Who knows, maybe MyOwnPeace Sep 2019 #68
I'm guessing Trump thinks staffers quitting is a sign of weakness on his part... LanternWaste Sep 2019 #70
" Live by the tweet, die by the tweet. Do you need a hug?"...................... riversedge Sep 2019 #73
Musta been one of... 3catwoman3 Sep 2019 #77
the reality show host MUST say you're fired!. nt yaesu Sep 2019 #82
Let me guess jmowreader Sep 2019 #83
Which Corgigal Sep 2019 #104
Someone at Fox News will be getting a promotion. JohnnyRingo Sep 2019 #85
Makes me wonder now duforsure Sep 2019 #89
from the point of view of christofascist paranoia... Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #91
Bolton's chances of "hanging himself" have just gone way up. C Moon Sep 2019 #97
Ass Kissers Never Learn SayItLoud Sep 2019 #98
You can't quit, ... marble falls Sep 2019 #99
I guess he wasn't crazy enough. lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #103
Even a broken clock is right twice a day Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2019 #107
i don't get why anyone is shocked barbtries Sep 2019 #108
Bolton tweet Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #111
I know one thing for sure FakeNoose Sep 2019 #112
I believe Bolton when he said he resigned. BlueStater Sep 2019 #115
Dueling dicks. calimary Sep 2019 #116
The problem is that Trump never wanted advisors, he wants cheerleaders. patphil Sep 2019 #118
Look, The Diversion Worked DallasNE Sep 2019 #119
Resigning because the alternative is getting fired is getting fired rocktivity Sep 2019 #121
Bolton's turn to write a scathing book about Trump. SunSeeker Sep 2019 #123
"Offered"? It was more like... jmowreader Sep 2019 #125
But he hires the best people rictofen Sep 2019 #126
I think Bolton did resign . friend of m and j Sep 2019 #128
Many people will be disapointed Bolton wasn't able to deliver the war they were hoping for. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #129
Whichever it is, good Polybius Sep 2019 #130
Which is worse Midnightwalk Sep 2019 #131
ain't that a shame... myohmy2 Sep 2019 #132
The Mercers will move quickly to toss Bolton overboard rpannier Sep 2019 #133
Bolton was superexcited this morning because all his emails had "Regime Change" on the subject line Marcuse Sep 2019 #135
Bolton shouldve never been there. He wanted a war. Anywhere. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #136
I am all out of fucks to give lonely bird Sep 2019 #137
Bolton is now free Aussie105 Sep 2019 #138
Every time he opens his mouth, people watch for lies... truthisfreedom Sep 2019 #139

Hotler

(11,415 posts)
46. ....
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:42 PM
Sep 2019
Bolton will go over to the Dick's (Cheney) house and lay his head in the Dicks lap and the Dick will pet Bolton's head and tell him all will be okay.
 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
113. As demented as Bolton is, he is saner than the creature
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:22 PM
Sep 2019

The creature may not have agreed with some of the suggestions from Bolton because Bolton may have put the breaks on the creature.

What a clown car the WH has become.

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
2. lol, Is it good news that Bolton is out or bad news that the guy opposed to bringing the Taliban
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:06 PM
Sep 2019

to Camp David is out?

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
122. I'm looking at it as bad news
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:47 PM
Sep 2019

Last edited Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:39 PM - Edit history (2)

Bolton may have been the one member of Trump's inner circle who Putin hasn't got any dirt on.


rocktivity

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
3. Here's the link to NPR's coverage
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:06 PM
Sep 2019
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/10/724363700/trump-fires-john-bolton-in-final-break-after-months-of-policy-divisions

President Trump has fired national security adviser John Bolton, the lifelong proponent of American hard power, after months of division between the men over the direction of foreign and national security policy.

Trump announced the news on Tuesday in a post on Twitter.

I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore....
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 10, 2019

Bolton was Trump's third national security adviser and continued the pattern of departures by advisers who proved a bad fit for a White House led by the rare president with no prior experience with the military, national security or elected office.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
100. A lie already
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:50 PM
Sep 2019

tRUMP: "Informed him last night"

Bolton:

"he said, "let's discuss in the morning".

ha ha ha ha ha....ROT in Hell sucker.

BumRushDaShow

(128,815 posts)
6. LOL!!!
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:06 PM
Sep 2019

Just saw the NYT breaking -

John Bolton Out as National Security Adviser

By Peter Baker

Sept. 10, 2019, 12:01 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON — President Trump fired John R. Bolton, his third national security adviser, on Tuesday amid fundamental disagreements over how to handle major foreign policy challenges like Iran, North Korea and Afghanistan. Mr. Trump announced the decision on Twitter. “I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning. I thank John very much for his service. I will be naming a new National Security Advisor next week.”

His departure comes as Mr. Trump is pursuing diplomatic openings with two of the United States’ most intractable enemies, efforts that have troubled hard-liners in the administration, like Mr. Bolton, who view North Korea and Iran as profoundly untrustworthy.

The president has continued to court Kim Jong-un, the repressive leader of North Korea, despite Mr. Kim’s refusal to surrender his nuclear program and despite repeated short-range missile tests by the North that have rattled its neighbors. In recent days, Mr. Trump has expressed a willingness to meet with President Hassan Rouhani of Iran under the right circumstances, and even to extend short-term financing to Tehran, although the offer has so far been rebuffed.

To his admirers, Mr. Bolton was supposed to be a check on what they feared would be naïve diplomacy, a cleareyed realist who would keep a president without prior experience in foreign affairs from giving away the store to wily adversaries. But Mr. Trump has long complained privately that Mr. Bolton was too willing to get the United States into another war. The tension between the men was aggravated in recent months by the president’s decisions to call off a planned airstrike on Iran in retaliation for the downing of an American surveillance drone and to meet with Mr. Kim at the Demilitarized Zone and cross over into North Korea.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/us/politics/john-bolton-national-security-adviser-trump.html


You bring a war-mongering neocon in and he will war-monger.

So what does Lindsey have to say about this?

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
110. Bolton appears to have the dubious distinction of being too batshit crazy even for TRUMP.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:16 PM
Sep 2019

Best quote from the NYT article...

Mr. Trump has long complained privately that Mr. Bolton was too willing to get the United States into another war...“If it was up to John, we’d be in four wars now,” one senior official recalled the president saying.


BumRushDaShow

(128,815 posts)
117. They knew that he was a war-mongering neocon
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:28 PM
Sep 2019

He joins a growing line of discards -





(and ironically his predecessors were both generals yet Bolton was the war-mongeringest of all!)

a kennedy

(29,644 posts)
8. Who on DU here called this???
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:08 PM
Sep 2019

Don’t know who said it, but it was just a few days ago someone on DU said that Bolton would be gone.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
10. I'm very glad that Bolton
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:10 PM
Sep 2019

is out.

But ... with Trump we go from awful to more awful, so God knows who Bolton's replacement will be.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
120. If Criminal Don
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:42 PM
Sep 2019

likes him, he'll no doubt be the choice. Either that or Jared's coffee boy might be promoted.

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
12. "Tarnation! That idjit FIRED me???"
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:13 PM
Sep 2019


"It's because I wouldn't roll over and do everything that flea-bitten varmit said -- but it ain't as though we Republicans are put in jobs we're actually qualified for!"


rocktivity

brooklynite

(94,495 posts)
14. Didn't Trump just say "lies, all lies" about reports...
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:14 PM
Sep 2019

...that Bolton and Pence challenged his Afghanistan/Taliban summit?

shanti

(21,675 posts)
66. So
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:05 PM
Sep 2019

Bolton wanted to leave on his terms, but it appears that Chump just wanted to get the upper hand by "waiting until tomorrow". Figures.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
134. Depends on who it is
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:04 PM
Sep 2019

If they have no ties to the Mercers, then it's a step up
Could be the ghost of Stalin; no Mercers, a step up

CaptainTruth

(6,586 posts)
25. Hopefully this will finally end the PNAC agenda of world domination.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:20 PM
Sep 2019

And hopefully prevent a war with Iran.

I wonder if he'll get rid of the PNAC's Space Force too?

PNAC key positions, 2000:

"Control the new 'international commons' of space and 'cyberspace,' and pave the way for the creation of a new military service--U.S. Space Forces--with the mission of space control."


[link:https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_for_the_New_American_Century|]

sprinkleeninow

(20,235 posts)
106. Oot-ooh. Sooner rather than later?
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:06 PM
Sep 2019
What incrimination will he disclose regarding:
'The Chosen 🍄,
The King of Micro Fungi'?




tblue37

(65,312 posts)
30. Bolton is vicious and hot-tempered. I bet he won't stay quiet the way so many
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:25 PM
Sep 2019

former Trump appointees do.

Peregrine Took

(7,413 posts)
56. They were saying (CNN) how sneaky and working behind everyone's back he is.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:51 PM
Sep 2019

He knows how to use the bureaucracy to win an argument that he had been very likely to lose.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
74. With a temperament like Bolton's
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:09 PM
Sep 2019

I'm surprised that he lasted as long as he did with Chump. Dirty Don isn't used to men that stand up to him, he's a coward.

Jirel

(2,018 posts)
105. This could be soooooo much fun.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:05 PM
Sep 2019

He’s possibly but not likely going to hit the talk show circuit like The Mooch. He’s more likely to set up a good backstabbing. This will be FUN.

IronLionZion

(45,421 posts)
31. Trump's own suggestions are completely insane
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:27 PM
Sep 2019

so I'd be curious to see what Bolton had suggested that was too much for Trump.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
34. Nah, racist Fatso didn't fire Bolton ...
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:28 PM
Sep 2019

putin TOLD his fat puppet to fire the mustached crazy one.

THE END.

CHAOS, CHAOS, CHAOS.

putin loves causing CHAOS in the the USA (USSA).

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
38. "YOU DIDN'T FIRE ME! I QUIT!!!"
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:36 PM
Sep 2019

everything that bolton says must be done in all caps. he's that angry.

just another bad comedic moment from our tragic comedy that is our government run by trumpy the clown.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
124. If you 'resigned', Walrus Boy, then by definition you did not 'offer to resign' ...
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 03:00 PM
Sep 2019

You just resigned.

See how that works?

Such a freaking clownshow this admin is

demmiblue

(36,838 posts)
48. John Bolton and President Trump got into a bitter argument last night over the president's plan to..
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:45 PM
Sep 2019
John Bolton and President Trump got into a bitter argument last night over the president’s plan to host Taliban leaders at Camp David, two people tell me.

It’s unclear if it was on the phone or in person.


Botany

(70,489 posts)
49. Moving the deck chairs around on the Titanic
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:46 PM
Sep 2019

Bolton is a no good asshole but even he knows that Trump is nuts and bringing in the
Taliban on 9/11 had very bad optics.

dalton99a

(81,443 posts)
50. Contrary to "The Apprentice" bullshit, Trump is too cowardly to fire people face to face.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:46 PM
Sep 2019

He always does it behind their back.


Peregrine Took

(7,413 posts)
59. Absolutely! My sentiments exactly.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:58 PM
Sep 2019

As soon as I saw the word "fired" I thought....oh no he didn't.

Bolton is out but no way the cowardly dotard did it.

I think he is physically afraid to confront people.

DFW

(54,338 posts)
52. Have a little pity for Iran's Minister of Defense
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:49 PM
Sep 2019

His budget requests will be taken a lot less seriously for a while. Poor guy.

Vinca

(50,260 posts)
64. Wouldn't it be refreshing if Bolton told the truth about what is going on in the White House?
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:02 PM
Sep 2019

It's astonishing to me that Bolton uttered the first sane thing in his life and he got fired for it. I hope he blabs to every news outlet in sight.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
68. Who knows, maybe
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:05 PM
Sep 2019

he'll pair up with "Mooch" and offer another line of "insight" into the "tRump" mis-administration!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
70. I'm guessing Trump thinks staffers quitting is a sign of weakness on his part...
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:06 PM
Sep 2019

so he merely lies (natch) and tell his sub-literate fan base he fired them to save face.

"You can't quit! I fired you!!!"

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
73. " Live by the tweet, die by the tweet. Do you need a hug?"......................
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:09 PM
Sep 2019



John Bolton: Trump sacks national security adviser


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49655279

16 minutes ago

US President Donald Trump has fired his National Security Adviser John Bolton.

"I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House," he wrote.

"I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions," Mr Trump wrote, adding that a new national security adviser would be appointed next week.

.................................................

Sources said that the National Security Council, which advises the president, had become a separate entity within the White House under Mr Bolton.

A former senior Trump administration official, who wished to remain anonymous, told the BBC: "He [Bolton] operates separately from the rest of the White House.

According to the official, Bolton did not attend meetings, and followed his own initiatives.

"He's running his own show," said the official.






A White House official told the BBC's US partner, CBS News. "Bolton has his priorities. He didn't ask the president 'What are your priorities.' They're Bolton's priorities."

Mr Bolton had opposed peace talks with the Taliban, which Mr Trump scrapped at the weekend after inviting the group to the US.

Mr Trump's policy drew criticism especially because of its timing, close to the anniversary of the 11 September 2001 attacks by al-Qaeda, a group that the Taliban had hosted in Afghanistan.


.................................................


According to Foreign Policy magazine, Mr Bolton had argued that inviting a US-designated terror group to Camp David - the presidential retreat outside Washington - would "set a terrible precedent".


His opposition led to a growing rift with the secretary of state, who appeared on five separate news programmes on Sunday to defend Mr Trump's outreach to the Taliban.
...............................................



John Bolton @AmbJohnBolton
I offered to resign last night and President Trump said, "Let's talk about it tomorrow."




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Holly Figueroa O'Reilly @AynRandPaulRyan
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Replying to @AmbJohnBolton


Live by the tweet, die by the tweet.
Do you need a hug?

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jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
83. Let me guess
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:21 PM
Sep 2019

Bolton explained the optics of inviting the people who harbored Osama bin Laden after 9/11 to Camp David during the week of 9/11, and Trump canned him for it.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
104. Which
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:04 PM
Sep 2019

is one of the craziest crap Trump has suggested , as a NY'er you would think Trump knew that. Alas, you would be wrong.

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
85. Someone at Fox News will be getting a promotion.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:22 PM
Sep 2019

Hard to say who, but some on air personality will be moving from Ministry Of Propaganda to White House duties. It'll definitely be a man because Trump only appoints women to secondary non leadership positions, but I'm sure there's a short list of hosts who had lauded Trump lately.

Hannity knows better than to leave his big buck show for a six month stint of pointless dithering, but Stuart Varney is willing to do anything for more photo-ops with his hero. He doesn't know shit about foreign policy, so he'd be a shoe-in for the gig.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
98. Ass Kissers Never Learn
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:48 PM
Sep 2019

tRUMP MUST be top dog. He will do anything to APPEAR as top dog. The fools on the hill and in the Oral Office STILL haven't figured that out. I detest Bolton but he's not stupid. But, tRUMP had to make him look dumber than a door nail.

Bolton NEEDED to be humiliated and thrown under the tRUMP bus. If allowed to resign tRUMP would have felt that his cult saw weakness.

No dignity, no decent exit, no resignations....only " I fired (fill in a name).

Who's next????? Pompeo, do you hear me?

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
108. i don't get why anyone is shocked
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:07 PM
Sep 2019

everything trump touches dies.

i don't like rick wilson very much but i love the title of his book.

FakeNoose

(32,626 posts)
112. I know one thing for sure
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:22 PM
Sep 2019

Bolton's not getting a job with the NEXT president, whoever he or she may be.
Hopefully it's a Democrat!

Just sayin'



BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
115. I believe Bolton when he said he resigned.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:27 PM
Sep 2019

Trump is a cowardly wuss and would never fire anyone to their face.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
119. Look, The Diversion Worked
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:40 PM
Sep 2019

Today we are not talking about Trump's inhumane treatment of the Bahamian people.

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
121. Resigning because the alternative is getting fired is getting fired
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:42 PM
Sep 2019

Last edited Thu Sep 26, 2019, 04:43 PM - Edit history (2)

you dad-gummed idjit.





rocktivity

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
123. Bolton's turn to write a scathing book about Trump.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:56 PM
Sep 2019

He will join Mattis, Tillerson, Cohen, the Mooch, Amarosa, et al. who have turned on Trump. When Trump finally gets hit with the goods on him, he'll have no friends left. Indeed, he never had friends, just people trying to use him to gain money, fame and/or power.

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
125. "Offered"? It was more like...
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 03:11 PM
Sep 2019

Trump: "Bolton, you're fucking fired. Get out of my sight right fucking now."

Bolton: "You can't fire me, asshole. I quit!"

friend of m and j

(220 posts)
128. I think Bolton did resign .
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 03:24 PM
Sep 2019

The media is talking about foreign policy disagreements between Trump and Bolton just built up over time.

That would be a impossible reason for Trump to fire him because the Trump administration does not have any foreign policy.

And I think Trump wanted to keep a high profile war monger on board just in case it looked to him like he was going to lose the 2020 election a nice war would be a good way to win the election. Bolton has probably given more thought to what country we could attack without the US being devastated in response. Probably has a long list with war plans for each.

And I can hear Trump at rallies "You can't change horses in the middle of the stream". And that would be enough "patriot" votes to win the election.

Polybius

(15,381 posts)
130. Whichever it is, good
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 04:01 PM
Sep 2019

Bolton was a crazy chickenhawk warmonger who disagreed with Trump on going to war with multiple countries.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
131. Which is worse
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 04:01 PM
Sep 2019

The war monger Bolton who at least objected to giving away the store or the replacement who might approve of Trump’s obsequiousness?

I hate this administration.

Btw if bolton offered to resign and trump fired him rather than accept the resignation that counts as being fired to me. The lie might only be about the timing. Ha. Only. And so far. Trump won’t be able to admit bolton offered first.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
133. The Mercers will move quickly to toss Bolton overboard
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:03 PM
Sep 2019

He was their guy and wanted him as Sec of State.
Wonder how quickly the Mercers will move against him
They were quick to knife Bannon

Aussie105

(5,377 posts)
138. Bolton is now free
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:54 AM
Sep 2019

to take his shoes and socks off and walk in the grass. And smell the roses.

Trump is now free to go down 5th Avenue and shoot a few civilians.

And the GOP will applaud, and call him a Great Leader.

. . . . something rotten in the state of . . . usa

truthisfreedom

(23,143 posts)
139. Every time he opens his mouth, people watch for lies...
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:46 PM
Sep 2019

Even his most ardent fans question him now. And he keeps doubling down on prevarication. It’s wonderful.

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