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appalachiablue

(41,105 posts)
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 05:57 PM Sep 2019

California Just Banned Private Prisons, Including Ice Detention Centers

Source: Vice News

The Mesa Verde facility costs taxpayers $119.95 per detainee per day for the first 320 people detained there, according to an advocacy group. California just passed a bill banning all for-profit prisons and immigrant detention facilities in the state, the Guardian reports — and some of these facilities could be gone as early as next year.

Bill AB32, passed Wednesday and heading to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s desk for signing, would shut down private facilities that hold inmates with criminal convictions. More than 2,200 people were held in such facilities as of June, according to data from the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics data reviewed by the Guardian. It would also shutter privately run facilities for immigrants, who are considered civil detainees despite being held in prison-like conditions.

Assemblyman Rob Bonta, who introduced the bill, said in February that the inclusion of immigrant detention facilities wasn’t meant as a jab at President Trump or his immigration policies. Instead, he told the San Francisco Chronicle, it was a stand against companies that “only care about the almighty dollar.”

There are currently four privately operated immigrant detention centers in California. Two of them — the Mesa Verde Detention Facility in Bakersfield and the Adelanto ICE Processing Center in San Bernardino — are run by the GEO Group, one of the biggest private prison companies in the country. Together, the two GEO Group-run facilities can hold up to 1,940 people. - MORE...

Read more: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mbm7a8/california-just-banned-private-prisons-including-ice-detention-facilities



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California Just Banned Private Prisons, Including Ice Detention Centers (Original Post) appalachiablue Sep 2019 OP
One sane state FiveGoodMen Sep 2019 #1
As soon as California secedes from this broken union, I am moving there... Moostache Sep 2019 #8
Not a Johnson County Fan? dlk Sep 2019 #12
Jeff Co. Moostache Sep 2019 #19
I Understand dlk Sep 2019 #26
Yeah, the whole private prisons thing makes me cringe. calimary Sep 2019 #20
Dick Cheney is a Scarsdale Sep 2019 #28
Remember that judge? robbob Sep 2019 #21
'KIDS FOR CASH' descpicable Wilkes-Barre, Pa. judge on the take, 2010: appalachiablue Sep 2019 #40
It may happen if Trump yuiyoshida Sep 2019 #30
CA, NY and New England will be the first to leave. roamer65 Sep 2019 #33
nICE. nt NCjack Sep 2019 #2
+ 1. iluvtennis Sep 2019 #13
I was wondering what law ice had broken to end up in prison. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2019 #24
They're way ahead out there. Mc Mike Sep 2019 #3
We vote for Democrats. Just think what the country wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #5
I used to live in San Diego, then Santa Cruz. Mc Mike Sep 2019 #6
I lived in El Cajon wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #9
I lived by Jack Murphy stadium, then by lake Chollas, bit N west of Lemon Grove. Mc Mike Sep 2019 #38
That's my home state wryter2000 Sep 2019 #4
I had the same thought but on further consideration it seems to me... EarnestPutz Sep 2019 #32
Honestly? I'm surprised it passed. Auggie Sep 2019 #7
As California goes, so goes the nation. warmfeet Sep 2019 #10
We can hope! Terrific news, good for California! appalachiablue Sep 2019 #11
Thrilled! BadgerMom Sep 2019 #14
great! absolutely the right thing to do* splunge63 Sep 2019 #15
I so love my adopted state of California! OMGWTF Sep 2019 #16
Born and Raised PlanetBev Sep 2019 #17
I have lived in both SoCal and NorCal .I love this state... yuiyoshida Sep 2019 #31
awesome, but where do the inmates go? FirstLight Sep 2019 #18
Other companies are making money on publicly held inmates.. Permanut Sep 2019 #22
KnR! Hekate Sep 2019 #23
Yes! Blue Owl Sep 2019 #25
This is awesome. This industry needs to be shut down forever. byronius Sep 2019 #27
Kick dalton99a Sep 2019 #29
If I could Amendment XXVIII would 47of74 Sep 2019 #34
Good! whathehell Sep 2019 #35
Just in time to botch Trump's new plan to sweep homeless into federal detention. Grasswire2 Sep 2019 #36
Go California!! PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #37
Our CA friends are in a dream situation... VarryOn Sep 2019 #39

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
8. As soon as California secedes from this broken union, I am moving there...
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 07:25 PM
Sep 2019

Honestly, anywhere is better than East Kansas, but California and New York are the most sane places to land...I think the weather and scenery are better on balance in California though.

Either way, the very concept of private, for-profit prisons should make anyone gag...it is such a natural conflict of interest and temptation for abuse that it simply cannot be allowed, period.

calimary

(81,139 posts)
20. Yeah, the whole private prisons thing makes me cringe.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 08:39 PM
Sep 2019

So you’re gonna make money off of incarcerating people?

Sorry. That’s AWFUL. Mercenary and awful! What a racket. Like they couldn’t figure out any other way to make a profit? Disgusting.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
28. Dick Cheney is a
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:01 AM
Sep 2019

YUGE investor in private prisons, from years ago. I wonder how much of a kickback tRump gets from them?

robbob

(3,522 posts)
21. Remember that judge?
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 08:40 PM
Sep 2019

The one who was proved to be overly harsh in sending juveniles to detention center while also taking major kickbacks from the company that ran these centres? I always thought the judge took the rap while the company walked away Scott free...

appalachiablue

(41,105 posts)
40. 'KIDS FOR CASH' descpicable Wilkes-Barre, Pa. judge on the take, 2010:
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 02:24 PM
Sep 2019

- Kids for Cash. The "kids for cash" scandal centered on judicial kickbacks to two judges at the Luzerne County Court of Common Pleas in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. In 2008, judges Michael Conahan and Mark Ciavarella were accused of accepting money in return for imposing harsh adjudications on juveniles to increase occupancy at for-profit detention centers.

Ciavarella disposed thousands of children to extended stays in youth centers for offenses as trivial as mocking an assistant principal on Myspace or trespassing in a vacant building. After a judge rejected an initial plea agreement in 2009, a federal grand jury returned a 48-count indictment. In 2010, Conahan pleaded guilty to one count of racketeering conspiracy and was sentenced to 17.5 years in federal prison. Ciavarella opted to go to trial the following year. He was convicted on 12 of 39 counts and sentenced to 28 years in federal prison. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal

yuiyoshida

(41,819 posts)
30. It may happen if Trump
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:36 PM
Sep 2019

gains four more years, there won't be much of a government left...just a Trump Dictatorship...I could hear Trump now.."Just let them go,we don't need them" To which his fans will scream "Build that wall" on the Nevada, Utah, Arizona side of the state...Maybe Oregon and Washington will follow and will emerge a new nation... California could already support itself...

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
33. CA, NY and New England will be the first to leave.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 02:44 PM
Sep 2019

Canada would gain 2 new provinces. The Province of New York and the Province of New England.

Makes sense, really. NYC and Boston are more like Montreal or Toronto than Dallas or Atlanta.

If Dump steals the election, I definitely will support their secession.

As far as CA goes, I think the union will lose most of the Mexican Cession of 1848. We stole the Southwest from Mexico in that war.

24. I was wondering what law ice had broken to end up in prison.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:33 PM
Sep 2019

Maybe it melted under the hot lights of interrogation.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
5. We vote for Democrats. Just think what the country
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 07:11 PM
Sep 2019

could be if all Dems who can vote, votes for only Dems.

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
6. I used to live in San Diego, then Santa Cruz.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 07:15 PM
Sep 2019

Keep kicking their asses. We'll keep fighting them over here.

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
38. I lived by Jack Murphy stadium, then by lake Chollas, bit N west of Lemon Grove.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:42 PM
Sep 2019

Loved the Alberto's and Roberto's restaurants.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
4. That's my home state
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 06:27 PM
Sep 2019

I'm not sure how they pull this off for federal facilities, but good on them. If only Texas would do the same.

EarnestPutz

(2,117 posts)
32. I had the same thought but on further consideration it seems to me...
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 02:39 PM
Sep 2019

...that the private prisons are private businesses that need business licenses to operate in the state. The fact that they have government contracts shouldn't give them impunity.

Auggie

(31,133 posts)
7. Honestly? I'm surprised it passed.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 07:24 PM
Sep 2019

California politicians have not been immune from lobbying. Not all of them. This is wonderful news. I hope Gavin Newsom follows the will of voters.

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
14. Thrilled!
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 08:02 PM
Sep 2019

We now split our time about 55% New Mexico/45% California, but California feels like home. I’m very happy with those state legislators.

yuiyoshida

(41,819 posts)
31. I have lived in both SoCal and NorCal .I love this state...
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:43 PM
Sep 2019

Especially the Bay Area, my home..I love San Francisco...I would never want to leave.

FirstLight

(13,357 posts)
18. awesome, but where do the inmates go?
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 08:19 PM
Sep 2019

Or does this mean the Fed has to come in and run these places? Will they be portioned out to other prisons? Will some get let go? (especially if they were locked up on something stupid..or heaven forbid, something dangerous.) Do the immigrants get deported or welcomed (I think we know that answer )

I'm glad this passed, it's truly dangerous to run these facilities like a business or for-profit model. It's literally another form of slavery or ethnic decimation.

I just hope that just passing this law doesn't end up being like when Reagan shut down the mental health wards and all of them became much of what is the homeless population. Somehow I don't trust the Federal Govt to be able or willing to work with the State on this... I wonder how it will go down.

Permanut

(5,575 posts)
22. Other companies are making money on publicly held inmates..
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:00 PM
Sep 2019

For example, in the Lincoln County jail in Newport, Oregon, commissary, phone, video visit and email services are administered by a company called Inmate Canteen, which makes money on every deposit to an inmate account, and makes money when the inmate uses account money for phone calls, emails, etc.

The psychos are really good at finding ways to take advantage of the situation, which affects families as well, while more or less flying under the radar.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
34. If I could Amendment XXVIII would
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 03:21 PM
Sep 2019

among other things outlaw private prisons and absolutely forbid slavery with violations punishable by public hanging.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
36. Just in time to botch Trump's new plan to sweep homeless into federal detention.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 05:52 PM
Sep 2019

A draconian plan by Miller, McConnell and Trump.

Impoverish SS recipients and then sweep them into privately administered federal detention when they go homeless.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
39. Our CA friends are in a dream situation...
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 01:40 AM
Sep 2019

Near absolute Democratic rules. I’m loving what Newsom is doing...aggressively progressive in his governance!

I have to think the flow of people moving out of the state has moved the electorate more left. Let those Republicans get the hell out!

Now, if they can just get rid of the Republican Congressmen.

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