Exclusive: Video shows Trudeau in blackface in 3rd instance of racist makeup
Source: Global News
Global News has obtained video showing Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau in blackface, the third instance of racist dress to come to light in 12 hours.
The video was shot in the early 1990s, however, its not clear where it takes place.
The video, obtained exclusively by Global News, shows Trudeau covered in what appears to be dark makeup and raising his hands in the air while laughing, sticking his tongue out and making faces. Hes wearing a white T-shirt, and his jeans are ripped at the knees. It appears as though his arms and legs are covered in makeup as well. It does not appear the video was shot at the same time and place of the other photos of Trudeau in racist make-up that have emerged in the past 24 hours.
Global News initially obtained the video from a source earlier this week but had been attempting to verify it before publishing. A senior member of the Liberal campaign confirmed it was Trudeau early Thursday morning but would not comment further, simply referring Global News back to Trudeaus comments on the matter from Wednesday evening. The source did not shoot the video but Global News subsequently reached the person believed to have shot the video. That person would not confirm or deny that it was Trudeau in the video or the time and place of the video.
Read more: https://globalnews.ca/news/5922861/justin-trudeau-brownface-video/
How hard is it to decide NOT to do something like this?
True Dough
(17,246 posts)Hard to say how many Liberal voters this will turn away. If the SNC Lavalin scandal didn't make a big dent (which it should have), it's hard to imagine these dated incidents will drive off many supporters.
OnlinePoker
(5,716 posts)True Dough
(17,246 posts)Trudeau is dodging the candidate forums. He's attempting to minimize the opportunities for his opponents to further grill him about SNC.
alp227
(32,005 posts)True Dough
(17,246 posts)now I'm hugely disappointed. As another DUer suggested, I can always claim I'm a fan of Garry Trudeau and Doonesbury.
Bidenator
(11 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)The world is falling apart and THIS is what gets some people's attention.
Let's make ceratain another conservative leader is installed over another ridiculous smear campaign.
OnlinePoker
(5,716 posts)This is full blackface.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)FBaggins
(26,721 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Have we become so PC and overly sensitive that you would prefer a conservative to be installed as the leader of Canada?
FBaggins
(26,721 posts)You do realize that you're saying that we need to adjust our interpretation of right and wrong based on whether it will harm electoral chances?
That's flat ridiculous. Nobody said "and therefore he should not be reelected"
He admitted that it was a stupid thing to do... why can't you?
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)This was done 30 years ago and somehow didnt change how he governed. Installing a consservative would hurt a ton more people than it's worth. So yeah, accepting it for electoral purposes is the logical and moral thing to do.
Jedi Guy
(3,175 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)We are not talking about child molesters and rapists here...
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Not only that, but the early 90's were a very different time, people didn't universally regard blackface costumes as offensive like they do now. That's a more recent realization.
Jedi Guy
(3,175 posts)After all, it was even longer ago than the 90s, since she did it in the 60s.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)who was an alleged crook. "Vote for the crook! It's important!"
If our personal conduct is an inherent disqualifier against all other options, for office, David Duke would have been elected governor.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Purity & racism is why I never would consider voting for the Republicans no matter much Democrats move to the right.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)If we allowed ourselves to reject our candidates because of these missteps, no matter what we almost always get somebody worse.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I won't defend blackface though because I knew that was racist before DU existed.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Just defending society's right to not get destroyed by right wingers because of blackface.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)that our only criteria for a public leader is "he's better than a conservative?"
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)that person. The conservative would clearly create more suffering. This is a far more sophisticated moral argument in my opinion than "this person did something that is considered wrong now (not then), so we should punish him and the millions who will suffer from an alternative candidate as a result."
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)Ethics and principles be damned, our side right or wrong.
I mean it's a way to go, but sorry can't join you.
It's the same argument Republicans use to support Trump.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)This is forgiving a misguided action in order to continue to advocate for stronger morality in our laws. Ethics and principles are not being sacrificed, but protected in our case.
Afromania
(2,768 posts)Thanks for the help.......
Jedi Guy
(3,175 posts)End Of The Road
(1,397 posts)brooklynite
(94,331 posts)The Zwarte Pieten, or Black Petes, who accompany Sinterklaas in the annual televised parade, which this year takes place in Apeldoorn on 16 November, will instead have sooty faces, the broadcaster said, in what it called a logical next step.
Last year, in response to growing protests by anti-racism campaigners, NTR introduced a mix of sooty and blackfacePieten for the parade, saying it respected both tradition and change but felt it had to reflect changes in society.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/18/netherlands-ban-blackface-makeup-zwarte-piet-black-pete-christmas-parade
Jose Garcia
(2,583 posts)EllieBC
(2,989 posts)doing blackface in the 60s, 70s, and 80s? Was it just a costume or does Trudeau get a pass for being on the correct side?
a kennedy
(29,615 posts)luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)and was singing "Dayo, dayo". Would have been kind of stupid to sing it as a white guy.
Now a bit of Canadian history: When I was a young girl, my father belonged to the local Lions' Club. In those days, the Lions put on a Minstrel Show each year (this is in Ontario, BTW, in the 50's). The chorus was all in blackface, there were 5 gentlemen dressed in different plaid suits -- also in blackface, and they had speaking parts, and then there was the white "Interlocutor", or emcee, who exchanged lines with the 5 men.
As I recall (since I had also seen the scripts of some of these shows), the only person who was made to look stupid was the Interlocutor. The 5 guys had the best lines, the funniest lines, and always had a smart retort for the Interlocutor.
Did we think this was racist? Did the 5 guys come across and stupid? No way to either of those questions.
So......when you're performing for an audience, the terms of conduct are different. Shakespeare wrote "Othello" as a black man, and it wasn't until maybe over the last 10 years that actual black actors have had the leading role.
And remember this: Trudeau has welcomed people of all colours (including well over 25,000 Syrian refugees) to Canada and has said, many times, that "Diversity is our strength". Compare that to the horrendous racist epithets Dolt45 had spouted for several years.
Jose Garcia
(2,583 posts)OTTAWA Lawyers and advocates who work directly with refugees say they are dismayed by proposed changes to asylum laws included in the Liberals new budget bill, calling them a devastating attack on refugee rights in Canada.
The Trudeau government is proposing to prevent asylum seekers from making refugee claims in Canada if they have made similar claims in certain other countries, including the United States.
Border Security Minister Bill Blair says the measure aims to prevent asylum-shopping.
I can tell you weve been working very hard over the past several months to significantly reduce the number of people who are crossing our borders irregularly, Blair told reporters Tuesday. Theres a right way to come to the country to seek asylum and/or to seek to immigrate to this country, and were trying to encourage people to use the appropriate channels and to disincentivize people from doing it improperly.
More: https://www.google.com/amp/s/nationalpost.com/news/politics/refugee-advocates-shocked-and-dismayed-over-asylum-changes-in-budget-bill/amp
Now, if the Trump administration adopted the same policy, would we say "gosh, that seems like a fair and reasonable policy?" Or would we decry it as heartless and xenophobic?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,265 posts)WTF?
I never thought I'd see that kind of excuse-making on DU.
" it wasn't until maybe over the last 10 years that actual black actors have had the leading role"
Well, no. I don't know how old you are (I'm guessing 20?), but take, for instance, Paul Robeson in 1930: https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2003/sep/03/theatre
You really thought no black actor played him until well into the 21 century?
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)I've attended a few stage productions of Othello and it's been nearly always played by a white man. Sorry I didn't know about Robeson -- how remiss of me.
And I'm not making "excuses" for Trudeau singing a song written by black man FOR a black man to sing, unless it is to suggest that he should have picked another song. I guess only songs written by people of a certain race can only be sung by those of the same race? And was he mocking African-Americans by attempting to look like one, so that the song would have more meaning? I'm pretty sure NOT.
He was in a high school talent show, in Montreal. Please don't equate what might/probably wasn't racially charged in Montreal to what it has been (and sadly, still is) in the US. Remember, your black slaves escaped to Canada. And Montreal now has a huge population of Haitian refugees.
I'm so, so tired of the opposition bringing up stuff that happened so many years ago, just to score points. Trudeau's main opponent is an anti-abortion, demonstrably homophobic, anti-green deal, pro-oil sands conservative politician. And his team have taken pages and pages out of the GOP/Trump playbook.
At this rate, we won't have any decent, caring people with maybe a few embarrassing incidents in their past to actually run for political office. Sad.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,265 posts)That's what's wrong.
"And was he mocking African-Americans by attempting to look like one"? Well, yes, that is the effect.
And the last time he did it was in 2001. When he was a 29 year old teacher. Fuck.
"Remember, your black slaves escaped to Canada ... I'm so, so tired of the opposition bringing up stuff that happened so many years ago, just to score points."
I'd laugh if this wasn't so painful to see a DUer trying to argue *for blackface*. For the record, I'm British, so no, they weren't "my slaves".
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)I can't continue to argue with your "holier-than-thou" attitude.
He's my Prime Minister and I will vote for my Liberal candidate, because I forgive any youthful indiscretions, which you obviously do not.
And by the way, when you're in costume and performing does not mean you're mocking anyone. Surely you've seen enough plays in the West End to know that.
cabot
(724 posts)I usually vote NDP, but this election is too important. Scheer is worse than Harper. Yes, Trudeau did horrible things in the past....but Scheer will do horrible things in the future. Look what Ford is doing to Ontario....that is what Scheer has planned for the country.
LisaM
(27,794 posts)As far as I can tell, he's hellbent on ramping up oil production. No matter what else he talks about (and I don't like his other policies), he keeps coming back to oil production.
Someone's poor judgement 30 years ago versus someone whose sole interest seems to be oil - no contest.
In Alberta, Jason Kenney has set up a phone number so people can report others who slander oil and gas.
healthnut7
(249 posts)The Conservatives are just like the Republicans!! Give to the rich and take from everyone else. If it was up to them they would remove healthcare and bring in private only.
We have enough Conservative Premiers than to give them the PM as well. I hope Canadians are smart enough to not put them in.
You notice we hear nothing from Ford, that's because they asked him to lay low and keep his mouth shut until the election is over. Tells you a lot!!.
cabot
(724 posts)If anything, I want the liberals in charge rather than Scheer. Im happy that Bernier will be in the debate on Oct. 7. Im hoping it splits the conservative vote.
Im not a fan of Trudeau, but hes definitely better than Scheer. I wish I could vote my usual NDP....but it isnt the right choice this election.
Greybnk48
(10,162 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,265 posts)He was speaking after more images of him wearing black make-up when he was younger emerged.
"I am wary of being definitive about this because the recent pictures that came out, I had not remembered," he told reporters in Winnipeg.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49763805
This is really bad.
Fan of Da Bearse
(75 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)So, he did something stupid nearly 30 years ago. How is this relevant to today?
Here, we still have those outraged over the treatment of Anita Hill, despite the fact it was 35 years ago. How many adults under 40 even know who she is?
How long should other people's fuckups be remembered?
rpannier
(24,328 posts)Though there may be others, since he cannot seem to be certain
LudwigPastorius
(9,099 posts)He's done.
rwsanders
(2,594 posts)between racism and acts that are "racially insensitive". So there is a distinction between what Trudeau did, i.e. he didn't realize (yes he should have), but he didn't realize how offensive it was. As opposed to those who would do it to degrade or mock others they consider lesser.
So in that light, I think a distinction could be made between the actions of Al Franken (foolish, but forgivable) and those of Trump (intentional and prosecutable).
I think we need something better than binary thinking. Great Star Trek TNG episode about this and I believe it was called "Binars".
truthisfreedom
(23,139 posts)luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)And there lies the difference.
ripcord
(5,266 posts)In their view it is better than the alternative, excusing this behavior is disgusting.