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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:13 AM Sep 2019

Trump confirms he discussed Biden with Ukrainian president

Source: Axios

President Trump confirmed to reporters on the White House South Lawn Sunday that he discussed Joe Biden and his son during a phone call with Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky on July 25.

"The conversation I had was largely congratulatory, with largely corruption — all of the corruption taking place — largely the fact that we don't want our people like Vice President Biden and his son creating to the corruption already in the Ukraine and Ukraine has got a lot of problems. The new president is saying that he's going to be able to rid the country of corruption, and I said that would be a great thing, we had a great conversation."

Why it matters: Trump said on Friday that "it doesn't matter" what he discussed with Zelensky, but appeared to be more forthcoming about the call on Sunday as reports in the New York Times, Washington Post and Wall Street Journal continue to reveal new details. Some have speculated that Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine until Zelensky promised to investigate Biden and his son, but the president was adamant on Sunday that there was "no quid pro quo."

Nonetheless, Democrats have demanded that Trump release the transcript of the phone call to prove he has nothing to hide. Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) said that the "existence of an explicit quid pro quo" isn't necessary, and that if Trump "demanded a foreign government do his political bidding, that’s when he crossed the critical threshold."

Read more: https://www.axios.com/trump-biden-ukraine-phone-call-zelensky-b6aed4ba-c45d-43d6-ae2b-110fc3ed0e48.html

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Trump confirms he discussed Biden with Ukrainian president (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Sep 2019 OP
He's admitting to one part of the lie to deflect from the rest of it. PSPS Sep 2019 #1
There is ALWAYS "more to it," to everything. pangaia Sep 2019 #13
The assholes are trying to come up with a plan bluestarone Sep 2019 #2
The assholes can come up with a plan, but it is too late. Stuart G Sep 2019 #5
Largely. Someone learned a new word. underpants Sep 2019 #3
From the MASTER manipulator and Corrupter himself. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2019 #4
Well Wawannabe Sep 2019 #16
Whistleblower has attorneys . . . Iliyah Sep 2019 #6
Whistleblower has seasoned, knowledgeable, experienced, high-profile KICK-ASS attorneys!! Leghorn21 Sep 2019 #9
Extortion from a sitting US "president." Miles Archer Sep 2019 #7
Trump has always been a mob boss. He just doesn't have people murdered. WhoWoodaKnew Sep 2019 #8
As far as you know. Ohiya Sep 2019 #10
He very well may be involved in murder pandr32 Sep 2019 #19
True-dat Iliyah Sep 2019 #26
I still suspect the pee tape Captain Zero Sep 2019 #24
"Says who?", Who? Leghorn21 Sep 2019 #11
7-6-5-4---- pangaia Sep 2019 #14
Jeffrey Epstein, the Republican in FL linked to .. Botany Sep 2019 #30
Perception Management. Firestorm49 Sep 2019 #12
Hand over the tapes, transcripts then. Scarsdale Sep 2019 #15
And just like that.............HE ADMITS TO COLLUSION. W T F Sep 2019 #17
He's largely a LIAR. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2019 #18
He's spinning the narrative to control the damage. infullview Sep 2019 #20
The a**hole complains about corruption in Ukraine lanlady Sep 2019 #21
Putin must have ordered him to put out a statement to deflect. nt chowder66 Sep 2019 #22
The fact that he doesn't apologize for wrong or misused Prosper Sep 2019 #23
"creating to the corruption"... he always loses control of English language skills when he lies truthisfreedom Sep 2019 #25
He doesn't want any corruption competition... BBG Sep 2019 #27
I had to read it three times and still couldn't comprehend it! BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #34
Gotta think like tRUMP does... SayItLoud Sep 2019 #28
Even though he admits it nothing will be done blueinredohio Sep 2019 #29
Remember when he said the Trump Tower meeting was about adoption policy? htuttle Sep 2019 #31
the Dems will do nothing.... cntrfthrs Sep 2019 #32
Because it only got them to where they are, and there remains no path bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #35
aiding and abetting bribery and obstructing justice Linda Ed Sep 2019 #33

PSPS

(13,587 posts)
1. He's admitting to one part of the lie to deflect from the rest of it.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:20 AM
Sep 2019

There must be a lot more to this if he's backtracked this much.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
13. There is ALWAYS "more to it," to everything.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 12:05 PM
Sep 2019

But, I suspect he is a little nervous this time and sees a crack... so he's gotta try to plug it...with half truths and lies, as gangsters do...

bluestarone

(16,899 posts)
2. The assholes are trying to come up with a plan
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:24 AM
Sep 2019

To make everything look on the up and up. WE KNOW BETTER! The house really needs to dig this one up!

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
5. The assholes can come up with a plan, but it is too late.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:29 AM
Sep 2019

It is just a matter of time. I don't think Trump has a clue.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
4. From the MASTER manipulator and Corrupter himself.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:28 AM
Sep 2019

Is there anything more about Trump that does not stink to high heaven?

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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. Whistleblower has attorneys . . .
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:30 AM
Sep 2019

and fears the whistleblower has evidence to back up more than the telephone calls . . .

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
9. Whistleblower has seasoned, knowledgeable, experienced, high-profile KICK-ASS attorneys!!
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:44 AM
Sep 2019

YEAH

This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco
This ain’t no foolin around

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
7. Extortion from a sitting US "president."
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:31 AM
Sep 2019

Not much I can say, other than echoing the chorus of "If only there was SOMETHING Congress could do about it."

pandr32

(11,574 posts)
19. He very well may be involved in murder
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 12:42 PM
Sep 2019

We already know he must have had something to do with Khashoggi's murder, and he very well may have had something to do with others, too. We are learning more and more about his and his family's' crimes with each new day.
We also know he couldn't care less. He shows no remorse, is very vengeful and would do anything for financial advantage.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
11. "Says who?", Who?
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:55 AM
Sep 2019

Ha, just being a wiseass, but I wouldn’t be surprised in the least to find out he has done just that, for real...I put nothing past this lowlife pervert scumbucket

Botany

(70,483 posts)
30. Jeffrey Epstein, the Republican in FL linked to ..
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 02:12 PM
Sep 2019

... Roger Stone, a bunch of Russians who helped install Trump in 2016, and so on.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
15. Hand over the tapes, transcripts then.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 12:07 PM
Sep 2019

Keeping them under wraps PROVES that something else took place. Not to mention it is the LAW. Corruption? Talk to rootin' tootin' Rudy about his contacts with the Ukraine.

infullview

(978 posts)
20. He's spinning the narrative to control the damage.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 12:56 PM
Sep 2019

The deplorables will believe his account as long as he gets it out ahead of the truth.

lanlady

(7,133 posts)
21. The a**hole complains about corruption in Ukraine
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 01:08 PM
Sep 2019

while coddling kleptocrat Putin, overseer of the most spectacularly corrupt country in the world.

Prosper

(761 posts)
23. The fact that he doesn't apologize for wrong or misused
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 01:15 PM
Sep 2019

words in his writing or conversation indicates a problem with reality. Infallibility from his god complex. He is writing and conversing on a low level. Using creating for contributing is maybe 5th grade level. Apologies to 5th graders.

truthisfreedom

(23,141 posts)
25. "creating to the corruption"... he always loses control of English language skills when he lies
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 01:29 PM
Sep 2019

"The conversation I had was largely congratulatory, with largely corruption — all of the corruption taking place — largely the fact that we don't want our people like Vice President Biden and his son creating to the corruption...”

BigmanPigman

(51,583 posts)
34. I had to read it three times and still couldn't comprehend it!
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 09:18 PM
Sep 2019

I taught First Graders, many were second language kids, and they were all easier to understand than this fucking moron.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
28. Gotta think like tRUMP does...
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 01:44 PM
Sep 2019

He talks big, tough and lets others do the dirty (illegal) work. Cohen, Rudy, dozens of lawyers, anyone. Then when the legal shit hits the fan he deflects and points to "you better ask Cohen, or Rudy or the lawyers, what I did was great, beautiful, nothing wrong."

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
31. Remember when he said the Trump Tower meeting was about adoption policy?
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 07:34 PM
Sep 2019

...and there were no Russians there.

Then it turned out not to be about adoptions?

Then it turned out that there was one Russian there, then two, then three?

This is like that.

bucolic_frolic

(43,122 posts)
35. Because it only got them to where they are, and there remains no path
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 10:05 AM
Sep 2019

forward through the Moscow Mitch GOP-controlled Senate

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
33. aiding and abetting bribery and obstructing justice
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 09:07 PM
Sep 2019

Aiding and abetting bribery and obstructing justice..need we say more? Now if AG Barr doesn't do something about this he needs to be arrested and put in jail for the same!! Americans ,,,real Americans & Patriots are sick and tired of all this cover up....

Barr helped Reagan escape prosecution for Iran-Contra. He worked for Bush/Cheney who still can not leave the US easily as known war criminals indicted in several nations. Trump received Barr’s pledge to do the same for Trump regardless of who and what Trump may be. Trump could easily be working in serious ways as a threat to the US making sure his children go to the intelligence briefings every morning and sending them out to his friends like the Saudis to perhaps sell intelligence for personal profit.

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