Suspending Parliament was unlawful, court rules
Source: BBC
Boris Johnson's decision to suspend Parliament was unlawful, the Supreme Court has ruled.
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But the UK's highest court said it was wrong to stop Parliament carrying out its duties.
The court's president, Lady Hale, said: "The effect on the fundamentals of our democracy was extreme."
She said the unanimous decision of the 11 justices was that Parliament had not been prorogued - the decision was null and of no effect - and it was for the Speakers of the Commons and Lords to decide what to do next.
Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49810261
Unanimous verdict. This means the prorogation did not legally take place, and parliament is still effectively in session - the speakers of the Houses can arrange new sittings any time they want, and there is no longer a Queen's speech scheduled.
Extract from the ruling:
No justification for taking action with such an extreme effect has been put before the court. The only evidence of why it was taken is the memorandum from Nikki da Costa of 15th August. This explains why holding the Queen's Speech to open a new session of Parliament on 14th October would be desirable. It does not explain why it was necessary to bring Parliamentary business to a halt for five weeks before that, when the normal period necessary to prepare for the Queen's Speech is four to six days. It does not discuss the difference between prorogation and recess. It does not discuss the impact of prorogation on the special procedures for scrutinising the delegated legislation necessary to achieve an orderly withdrawal from the European Union, with or without a withdrawal agreement, on 31st October. It does not discuss what Parliamentary time would be needed to secure Parliamentary approval for any new withdrawal agreement, as required by section 13 of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018.
The Court is bound to conclude, therefore, that the decision to advise Her Majesty to prorogue Parliament was unlawful because it had the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification.
The next and final question, therefore, is what the legal effect of that finding is and therefore what remedies the Court should grant. The Court can certainly declare that the advice was unlawful. The Inner House went further and declared that any prorogation resulting from it was null and of no effect. The Government argues that the Inner House could not do that because the prorogation was a "proceeding in Parliament" which, under the Bill of Rights of 1688 cannot be impugned or questioned in any court. But it is quite clear that the prorogation is not a proceeding in Parliament. It takes place in the House of Lords chamber in the presence of members of both Houses, but it is not their decision. It is something which has been imposed upon them from outside. It is not something on which members can speak or vote. It is not the core or essential business of Parliament which the Bill of Rights protects. Quite the reverse: it brings that core or essential business to an end.
This Court has already concluded that the Prime Minister's advice to Her Majesty was unlawful, void and of no effect. This means that the Order in Council to which it led was also unlawful, void and of no effect and should be quashed. This means that when the Royal Commissioners walked into the House of Lords it was as if they walked in with a blank sheet of paper. The prorogation was also void and of no effect. Parliament has not been prorogued. This is the unanimous judgment of all 11 Justices.
It is for Parliament, and in particular the Speaker and the Lord Speaker to decide what to do next. Unless there is some Parliamentary rule of which we are unaware, they can take immediate steps to enable each House to meet as soon as possible. It is not clear to us that any step is needed from the Prime Minister, but if it is, the court is pleased that his counsel have told the court that he will take all necessary steps to comply with the terms of any declaration made by this court.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/sep/24/brexit-supreme-court-latest-news-labour-conference-starmer-says-it-is-obvious-labour-will-back-remain-despite-conference-vote-live-news?pagewith:block-5d89e6988f0834740f3c1253#block-5d89e6988f0834740f3c1253
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BumRushDaShow
(128,493 posts)By
William Booth and Karla Adam
September 24, 2019 at 5:45 a.m. EDT
BREAKING NEWS: Britains Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that Prime Minister Boris Johnson suspended Parliament illegally. Opponents of the U.K. leader argued that the five-week suspension, just ahead of the Oct. 31 Brexit deadline, had the effect of preventing lawmakers from scrutinizing the executive. The case could have major implications for Brexit, as well as for the balance of power in Britain.
This article will be updated.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/britains-supreme-court-set-to-rule-on-boris-johnsons-decision-to-suspend-parliament/2019/09/24/af719d70-dd9e-11e9-be7f-4cc85017c36f_story.html
canetoad
(17,136 posts)Hale says prorogation is not a proceeding in parliament.
Although it takes place in parliament, it is not their decision. It is something that has been imposed on them from outside.
The PMs advice to Her Majesty was unlawful, void and of no effect.
That means the order in council was also unlawful, void and of no effect.
That means the prorogation had no effect. She says it is as if the royal commission had no effect.
Parliament has not been prorogued, she says.
She says it is for the Speaker to decide what happens next.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/sep/24/brexit-supreme-court-latest-news-labour-conference-starmer-says-it-is-obvious-labour-will-back-remain-despite-conference-vote-live-news
BumRushDaShow
(128,493 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)Badass
BumRushDaShow
(128,493 posts)By Mark Landler
Sept. 24, 2019, 5:46 a.m. ET
LONDON The British Supreme Court ruled on Tuesday that Prime Minister Boris Johnson illegally suspended Parliament, dealing him another heavy blow and thrusting the nations politics into even deeper turmoil, barely a month before it is scheduled to leave the European Union. The decision, which upheld a ruling from Scotlands highest civil court, reopens a debate over Brexit that was short-circuited when Mr. Johnson asked the queen to suspend, or prorogue, Parliament for five weeks.
Though it has historically avoided politics, the court made a landmark decision to intervene in a fierce clash between Mr. Johnson and Parliament over when and how to exit the European Union. The court essentially endorsed the judgment of the Scottish court that Mr. Johnsons suspension was an effort to stymie debate before an Oct. 31 withdrawal deadline, which he had pledged to meet even if Britain and Brussels did not reach an agreement on the terms.
As a practical matter, it was not clear how much the decision would change the governments immediate approach to Brexit. In the days before they were dispersed, members of the House of Commons pushed through a law over the prime ministers fierce opposition that would prohibit Mr. Johnson from pursuing a no-deal Brexit.
But in symbolic terms, the court ruling was a stinging rebuke for the prime minister. It raised the question of whether he had misled Queen Elizabeth II in asking her to prorogue the Parliament. And it added to the perception that his Conservative government was running roughshod over Britains most hallowed political conventions in its zeal to extract the country from Europe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/world/europe/uk-supreme-court-brexit.html
LittleGirl
(8,279 posts)Now, get rid of Johnson and do another election!
BumRushDaShow
(128,493 posts)(if that is even possible) although I know his replacement has already been designated.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,271 posts)I would think he'll still resign on Oct 31st. That gets past the proposed EU leaving date.
BumRushDaShow
(128,493 posts)When I was searching around earlier, I thought I saw a name floated. Can't find where I was when I saw it though!
muriel_volestrangler
(101,271 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)BooScout
(10,406 posts)Not just the justices' decision but the fact that Boris is a cockmuppet.
yellowcanine
(35,694 posts)The Cockmuppet guild is outraged. Boris Johnson is not fit to lick our muddy boots, if we in fact had muddy boots.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)malthaussen
(17,175 posts)The significance here is that everything that resulted from the lie is unlawful.
-- Mal
3Hotdogs
(12,332 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)Unfortunately, todays Republicans are all power-hungry sycophants willing to do anything to keep the Nabob of Narcissism in power.
Denzil_DC
(7,222 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)He humiliated the Queen ffs
Only way to make this day better is if Pelosi comes out swinging for impeachment later today
Eugene
(61,819 posts)Source: The Guardian
PM says adverse supreme court ruling would not stop him proroguing parliament again
Peter Walker in New York
@peterwalker99
Mon 23 Sep 2019 22.30 BST
Last modified on Tue 24 Sep 2019 01.05 BST
Boris Johnson has refused to rule out suspending parliament again if the supreme court rules on Tuesday that he abused his powers as prime minister in doing so earlier this month.
The British prime minister, who is in New York for a UN summit, also indicated he would not feel obliged to resign if the justices rule he misled the Queen in his reasons for suspending parliament.
Asked if he felt a verdict going against him would make his position untenable, Johnson said: No. I think the reasons for wanting a Queens speech are extremely good.
-snip-
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/23/boris-johnson-refuses-to-rule-out-suspending-parliament-again
Grokenstein
(5,721 posts)What was the name of that crackheaded clown from Canada who dropped dead a while ago? ...Rob Ford, that's it!
Boorish Johnson is what comes out if you put Rob Ford and Donald Trump together in Seth Brundle's telepod.
onetexan
(13,020 posts)brooklynite
(94,358 posts)He says he has instructed his officials to prepare for the resumption of the work of the Commons. It is not a recall of parliament, he says, because parliament was not properly prorogued.
He says he wants it to sit tomorrow at 11.30am.
He has contacted party leaders, or senior representatives of parties where that is not possible, he says.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/sep/24/brexit-supreme-court-latest-news-labour-conference-starmer-says-it-is-obvious-labour-will-back-remain-despite-conference-vote-live-news
yellowcanine
(35,694 posts)Never mind that this might put a spanner in the Brexit works. They are obliged to do it just as Congress is obliged to impeach Trump even though it might not be politically expedient.
Denzil_DC
(7,222 posts)Before a vote of no confidence, the legislation instructing that if no deal is reached by 31 October, the prime minister must request an extension from the the EU has to be safeguarded through amendments or whatever, otherwise we might end up leaving by default because of the election timing (assuming the vote of no confidence would be carried - no guarantee Labour would vote for it at the moment because they feel an election after 31 October would be more advantageous for them).
And don't forget the specter of the Brexit party in all this. No one in their right mind wants to hand them a clear path to victory, or at least gaining a significant number of seats. At the moment they're trying to frame this as "the People versus the Establishment/Parliament/the judiciary" etc. (as are Johnson et al.).
On social media today, I've seen frothing about "activist judges", "unelected judges" and all that (the latter provoking the question of whether whoever posted it would be in favor of elected judges, which would be a disaster). This is rhetoric I've often seen in US RW circles. The fact it's being imported into the UK is disturbing, though some of those spouting it may be bots, or at least inspired by bots.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)This is a great website for watching the goings-on at the House of Commons and House of Lords.
Tomorrow could be exciting.
https://parliamentlive.tv
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)with no deal on Oct 31st. In fact the latest law passed by Parliament requires him to request of the EU an extension, more time while meanwhile remaining, if no deal has been agreed by then.
Reuters doesn't mention that little detail here: PM Johnson: the law is that UK leaves EU on October 31 -
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-johnson/pm-johnson-the-law-is-that-uk-leaves-eu-on-october-31-idUKKBN1W91KQ
bucolic_frolic
(43,058 posts)McConnell is impeding legislation, tabling anything he doesn't agree with! Why is this not "stymieing" Congress? (Scottish Court's word and spelling, btw, for those who missed it).
Why can't Democrats find a Constitutional clause that requires action or consideration in the Senate?
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,915 posts)The US Constitution is a mere cover sheet in comparison to what the British have. The UK lacks a single constitutional document, so their "constitution" is a giant mix of parliamentary law, case law, court rulings, and decrees that date back hundreds of years.
bucolic_frolic
(43,058 posts)and make it mean what it originally meant in 1857
Contempt of Congress is the act of obstructing the work of the United States Congress or one of its committees. Historically, the bribery of a U.S. Senator or U.S. Representative was considered contempt of Congress. In modern times, contempt of Congress has generally applied to the refusal to comply with a subpoena issued by a Congressional committee or subcommitteeusually seeking to compel either testimony or the production of requested documents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress
As for high crimes and misdemeanors, try dereliction of duty, abuse of authority, misuse of assets (taxpayers pay a lot to keep Congress in session, it should do something other than kowtow to Moscow Mitch)
The charge of high crimes and misdemeanors covers allegations of misconduct by officials, such as perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, unbecoming conduct, refusal to obey a lawful order, chronic intoxication, and tax evasion. Offenses by officials also include ordinary crimes, but perhaps with different standards of proof and punishment than for nonofficials, on the grounds that more is expected of officials by their oaths of office.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_crimes_and_misdemeanors
Never believe what you are told by so-called self-appointed experts. They are conventional wisdom in concrete.
dlk
(11,514 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,551 posts)Looks like he will set the record for shortest term for a PM.
C_U_L8R
(44,990 posts)In other times, you'd get the chop
onetexan
(13,020 posts)a new referendum to include option to remain.
https://www.timesnownews.com/international/article/what-next-for-brexit-after-united-kingdom-court-ruling/494387
"If Labour wins, the party has promised to hold a new referendum, with an option to remain in the European Union -- which could see Brexit cancelled."
malthaussen
(17,175 posts)That would never happen with the USSC.
-- Mal