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SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:30 PM Nov 2019

Carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere reaches record high, researchers say

Source: nbcnews.com

The concentration of carbon dioxide in Earth’s atmosphere has reached a record high, according to a report released Monday by the World Meteorological Organization.

In 2018, global average concentrations of the greenhouse gas, which is a byproduct of burning fossil fuels, reached 407.8 parts per million, which means for every 1 million molecules of gas in the atmosphere, nearly 408 were carbon dioxide. This level is up from the global average of 405.5 parts per million in 2017. The findings follow a trend that shows the planet is continuing to warm at an alarming pace.

The level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has risen sharply as a result of human activities, with the 2018 global average representing a 147 percent increase over the pre-industrial level in 1750, according to the WMO.

“It is worth recalling that the last time the Earth experienced a comparable concentration of CO2 was 3-5 million years ago,” he said of the 407.8 parts per million milestone. “Back then, the temperature was 2-3 [degrees Celsius] warmer, sea level was 10-20 meters higher than now.”

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/carbon-dioxide-earth-s-atmosphere-reaches-record-high-researchers-say-n1090356



It's time to criminalize climate change denial activism.
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Carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere reaches record high, researchers say (Original Post) SpankMe Nov 2019 OP
Like Warren said - LeftTurn3623 Nov 2019 #1
Eventually we will get to late Cretaceous levels. roamer65 Nov 2019 #2
I don't believe we'll ever confront it in a meaningful way bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #3
Lowered oxygen levels? We're in no danger of losing oxygen. truthisfreedom Nov 2019 #6
Actually oxygen levels are dropping. roamer65 Nov 2019 #7
Tell it to the cities confronting ozone bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #8
Unfortunately, we are in danger of losing oxygen . . . hatrack Nov 2019 #9
We should start calling them what they are... Pluvious Nov 2019 #4
The planet will be better without us. roamer65 Nov 2019 #5
Sadly, we are quite the dysfunctional species Pluvious Nov 2019 #12
Humans are very similar to viruses. roamer65 Nov 2019 #13
We see the world as a socioeconomic rather than a biophysical system The_jackalope Nov 2019 #10
That's an excellent point jgmiller Nov 2019 #11
It will be good if we get to 500 ppm faster. roamer65 Nov 2019 #14
We're already at about 490 CO2E . . . hatrack Nov 2019 #15
I have not heard of that calculation. roamer65 Nov 2019 #16
Here's the NOAA link for CO2E (You'll need to scroll down) hatrack Nov 2019 #17

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
2. Eventually we will get to late Cretaceous levels.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:40 PM
Nov 2019

66 mya the CO2 level was about 1000-1500ppm and sea levels were 300 feet higher. There were no polar ice caps.

Those levels will also make people dumber. There should be a corresponding 20-40 pct reduction in cognitive abilities.

Population reduction needs to happen.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
3. I don't believe we'll ever confront it in a meaningful way
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:47 PM
Nov 2019

Lowered oxygen levels will thin the herd. That will make a difference.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
6. Lowered oxygen levels? We're in no danger of losing oxygen.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 01:29 AM
Nov 2019

That’s no problem. 408 ppm of CO2 translates to .041% CO2, and oxygen is at 21%. If you burned everything flammable on earth that 21% would barely change, but the CO2 could go up dramatically... yet it would remain merely a fraction of a percent. The problem is the greenhouse effect which gets worse even if we slightly increase that tiny quantity of CO2. Its like drops of poison in a glass of water. One drop you may survive, but each little drop pushes you closer to the brink, yet the glass of water is just about as pure looking as before and the water’s still all there.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
7. Actually oxygen levels are dropping.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 03:47 AM
Nov 2019

When we hack down forests and poison the oceans, things like that happen.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
9. Unfortunately, we are in danger of losing oxygen . . .
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 10:31 AM
Nov 2019

We think the Earth's forests provide most of the oxygen in the atmosphere. They don't. Far and away the biggest source of oxygen is plankton - between 50% and 85% of atmospheric oxygen comes from phytoplankton.

https://earthsky.org/earth/how-much-do-oceans-add-to-worlds-oxygen

As oceans acidify, phytoplankton ecology is disrupted, with some species flourishing, some collapsing or dying out, and many species migrating. "Upheaval" is how the MIT study linked below described the process:

http://news.mit.edu/2015/ocean-acidification-phytoplankton-0720

Beyond that, one study suggests that 6C increase in ocean temps could be enough to stop oxygen production, with all that eventuality implies:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151201094120.htm





roamer65

(36,745 posts)
5. The planet will be better without us.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 11:14 PM
Nov 2019

The human race deserves extinction.

Look at all of the death and destruction we have caused over our sordid history.


Pluvious

(4,313 posts)
12. Sadly, we are quite the dysfunctional species
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 12:52 PM
Nov 2019

Which is why we're so "successful" at expanding and conquering our dominion.

I've often thought we'd behave quite differently if we were longer lived, particularly with respect to the health and future of our precious Planet.

jgmiller

(395 posts)
11. That's an excellent point
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 12:41 PM
Nov 2019

For most of human existence it was about survival but dealing with the world around us and even if it was crude making sure there was a way to survive. Now that we have "mastered" nature we don't think about survival anymore and instead what we can do for ourselves as individuals.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
14. It will be good if we get to 500 ppm faster.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 06:14 PM
Nov 2019

People only react when issues become major crises.

500 ppm or bust!

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
15. We're already at about 490 CO2E . . .
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 11:29 PM
Nov 2019

Last edited Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:00 AM - Edit history (1)

CO2E is a proxy value for the heating potential contained in all the CO2 (and methane and nitrous oxide and sulfur hexaflouride and CFC and HFC and all the rest) that are out there blowing around in the atmosphere.

So your wish will come true sooner than you might have imagined - maybe next year!!

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
16. I have not heard of that calculation.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 11:37 PM
Nov 2019

Wow. No wonder we are seeing the climate crisis accelerate so rapidly.



Very educational. Thank you.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
17. Here's the NOAA link for CO2E (You'll need to scroll down)
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:02 AM
Nov 2019

The ESRL site is great for all kinds of information - current and historical data, explanation of the global trace gas monitoring network, lots of other cool stuff.

https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/aggi/

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