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riversedge

(70,466 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:02 AM Dec 2019

Trump administration heavily redacted documents concerning their withholding of Ukraine aid

Source: raw story






Published 11 hours ago on December 12, 2019


The Trump administration has refused to disclose how key officials at the Department of Defense and the White House Office of Management and Budget reacted to President Trump’s decision to halt military aid to Ukraine.

On Nov. 25, federal district court Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly ordered the administration to produce records reflecting what these officials said to one another about the legality and appropriateness of Trump’s order. The Center for Public Integrity sought the information in Freedom of Information Act requests filed in late September.

On Thursday afternoon, however, as the House Judiciary Committee was voting on two articles of impeachment against Trump, Public Integrity received 146 pages of documents that had been almost completely redacted by the government. Every substantive exchange between officials at the agencies was blacked out. Public Integrity is planning to file a motion Friday challenging the government’s response.

“We are deeply disappointed that the public won’t have access to this important information at the heart of the impeachment process. But we will continue to fight to ensure that the documents see the light of day,” said Public Integrity’s chief executive officer, Susan Smith Richardson..............................

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-administration-heavily-redacted-documents-concerning-their-withholding-of-ukraine-aid/

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machoneman

(4,016 posts)
1. Funny, but Trump's order to redact all details will backfire again....
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:15 AM
Dec 2019

..as no judge would allow such blatant stonewalling. Then, the world will see they were aghast at the hold-up and con tray to Republiscum bleatings, the department heads did question, many times, what the hell was the holdup?

mpcamb

(2,883 posts)
3. Why the hell weren't Dems asking for and subpoenaing the hidden server version of trump's call?
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:57 AM
Dec 2019

Once the word was out that it existed, there should have been a demand for the original form.

mackdaddy

(1,532 posts)
9. Swalwell said that they had issued 71 subpoenas for documents to the Whitehouse.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:44 AM
Dec 2019

They got NOTHING. Thus Article 2 of the impeachment.

They can take it to court, they may get a decision in a year or two. They decided not to fall for the delaying tactics.

These NGO organizations have actually had better luck with the FOIA requests. The Trumpist WH have been less effective against these, although they pretty much gave the court the middle finger with this blacked out response.

aggiesal

(8,963 posts)
12. I've said this before and I'll say this again ...
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:32 PM
Dec 2019

If Nixon had to give up the 17 missing minutes of tape recordings, then
Pendejo45 should have to turn over the actual transcript of the call to
Zelensky and if there is an audio recording, get that as well.

Lock him up.

(6,955 posts)
4. What are they hidding if he's so innocent of the charges against him?
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:00 AM
Dec 2019

And where are his ''promised'' tax returns again?

''promised'' but never delivered.........

world wide wally

(21,762 posts)
5. The Dems should ask for Doug Collins, Matt Gaetz, and Louis Gohmert to co-sign the subpoena requests
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:12 AM
Dec 2019

that keep getting denied by the Whie House.

Response to world wide wally (Reply #5)

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. Cool, that means we get to say whatever we want about what's inside the redactions.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:24 AM
Dec 2019

Quid pro quo AND trump cries and says his mother's name during sex.

DENVERPOPS

(8,895 posts)
13. Be careful
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:34 PM
Dec 2019

DU has slapped my wrists several times, despite the Vulgarity that the Republican Party and Trump have spewed from their vile sociopathic, horrific ..."********"............

Proof: just check out what the outgoing Kentucky Governor has done in a way of "I'll show you"..........
If, by some miracle Trump were voted out, His "I'll show you's" would be a thousand times worse, trust me........

It has been my experience, Narcistic Psychopaths like Trump don't go down with out going out with "a bang"..........nor will all the Repub Party and their followers....

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
14. Right, but there's always humor. Laughing at people like Trump is kryptonite to them.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:45 PM
Dec 2019
Power, money, persuasion, supplication, persecution—these can lift at a colossal humbug—push it a little—weaken it a little, century by century, but only laughter can blow it to rags and atoms at a blast. Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand.


MARK TWAIN (Samuel Clemens)

LudwigPastorius

(9,264 posts)
10. This, is why impeachment shouldn't be rushed.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:55 PM
Dec 2019

There is hard physical evidence of the Ukraine shakedown, and much, much more that Trump is sitting on...the kind of evidence that would make it impossible for the Republicans in the Senate to continue to prop him up.

Someday, it will all come out, and the depth of Trump's depraved, corrupt dealings will shock even the staunchest GOP supporters.

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