Selective Service System website crashes amid questions and fears of another US military draft
Source: cnn
Updated 7:08 PM ET, Fri January 3, 2020
(CNN)The Selective Service website crashed Friday because of "the spread of misinformation," the agency tweeted.
The website's crash came hours after the announcement that the head of Iran's Revolutionary Guards' Quds Force, Qasem Soleimani, was killed by a US airstrike ordered by President Donald Trump. The hashtag #WorldWarIII was one of the top trends on Twitter Friday.
The incident led to threats of retaliation from Iran's government and the escalation of tensions between the US and Iran. It sparked fears on social media of a war between the two countries and the possibility of another military draft in the US.
"Due to the spread of misinformation, our website is experiencing high traffic volumes at this time," the Selective Service tweeted. "If you are attempting to register or verify registration, please check back later today as we are working to resolve this issue. We appreciate your patience."...................................
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/03/politics/military-draft-selective-service-site-crash-trnd/index.html
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Call up those Trump kids first. They seem eager to get their war medals and some selfies.
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I don't want my grandson's to fight this war. My granddaughters are too young. But one will be 18 in 5 years. Send Trump's eligible kids.
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BigmanPigman
(51,610 posts)war or no war. Just get them out of my country (morons and traitors do not belong here).
What is it called when some soldiers kill fellow soldiers because they are so hated? I picture that happening to those two wildlife murderers.
TexasTowelie
(112,251 posts)Ivanka can be drafted too.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,610 posts)the only difference is that Ivanka's are fake boobs and her brothers are genuine boobs.
keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)Does anyone see a flag pin on Ivanka's outfit at the UN?
Have any patriotic republicans complained?
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Damn, her kidneys are the same size as Melanias.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)She was at the UN looking like she was in the movie Heavy Metal.
Traildogbob
(8,756 posts)A flag would distract from her favorite daddy's gift that gives her the superpowers. Plastic kidneys with prominent pointers. 🇷🇺 Her flag of choice. We are not just yet ready for the tRumps to be that much in our face with thier true patriotism, but getting close. Never thought Swastikas would be so out in our face. Very soon, we will see the Confederate Flag, Swastika Flags and Russian flags at bubba rallies. MAGA!
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)Can we send them to Somalia and tell them it is Iraq?
gab13by13
(21,360 posts)according to Smedley Butler, except a handful of rich businessmen.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)Like these two would ever have to sully their rich ass selves by fighting in a war. That's for the plebs.
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BigmanPigman
(51,610 posts)That's the word I was trying to remember.
I wonder if the SEALs wanted to do that to that guy who was just pardoned, Gallagher.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)Re-instating a draft won't be easy or simple. At least I don't think so. Although modern computer technology could make it very fast and easy.
Since every person now gets a SS number early in life, and since the Social Security Administration therefore knows everyone's date of birth, and possibly gender (I'll assume for simplicity a simple binary male or female, even though I know there are those who don't quite fir into the simple binary delegation) it would be incredibly easy, come to think of it, to send out draft notices to all eligible people of the right age.
More to the point, even with some kind of re-instated draft, it would take time, as in at least several months, to draft those needed and then to train them.
NotHardly
(1,062 posts)1. An "emergency" could be declared and then, presto chango 'draft reinstatement' almost as immediately as yesterday
2. Yup, your draft notice will arrive via "Twitter" ... Greetings fellow citizen, we would like to inform you....
3. Binary is not an issue, women can be drafted too, there is nothing about gendered bullets
4. The people checking their status are the young... the young and poor are who are sent to do the battles old rich whitemen like to start because it stirs the juices dried up by their contempt for the rest of us
... I don't blame the kids, they are young, not stupid
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)not everyone is on Twitter. So, some significant percentage of people will never see those draft notices.
And again, you don't just get drafted and go off to war the next day.
Plus, I expect there will be massive demonstrations against any draft.
Oh, and we've managed to be at war with several countries for the past two decades without a draft. Not sure this crap in Iran will truly result in a need for a draft.
Traildogbob
(8,756 posts)We still have that thing called mail, like the notice I got in Vietnam. Not reading mail does not excuse you. When the losses in a real war, with powerful military supplied with Russian weapons, gets significant enough, somebody has to hold all those weapons The Industrial Military Industry is getting rich off of. When young people stop joining because of made up wars everywhere, somebody has to go. On the bright side, if we ever needed something to put a fire under the young asses to vote, it worked for my generation. After my friends, family and fellow solders die in your face.
Too many, "my kids will not have to go" folks out there. Not my problem, somebody else will be Patriots and die for me.
Welcome back Bolten, we were missing your patriotism on full display. How much ya gonna make on war, and your book. MAGA!
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)I was responding to that.
Traildogbob
(8,756 posts)Don't misinterpret that I am pro draft, me and my generation faught hard to end it. By no means do I want it back. But, those pro war assholes that think not my kids, lets dumb down the admissions so dumb, poor and handicapped can go, I will stay here, wave and hump my flag and shit my pants if ya kneel during the anthem, that should be the drafted ones.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Waste of time and money.
Just throw them into the battle zone along with their stupid parents.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)In fact, since he's such a genius and the greatest at everything, let him fight the entire thing himself. I'm sure he'll win.
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)I don't know how difficult it would be to bring back the draft, but I think that's the whole point of requiring young men to register with Selective Service when they turn 18.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)Capt. America
(2,477 posts)to exclude due to medical conditions.
Needless wars would stop instantly if suburban kids were forced to forego college for endless war.
cstanleytech
(26,295 posts)Worked for Trump when he dodged being drafted.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)nistan that goes on for 16 years.
Because only a volunteer army will do anything for that long.
A nation of drafted equally citizens fighting it requires a collective political will of the people for it to happen, like WWII.
hardluck
(639 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)With all the patriotic conservatives/republicans willing to serve, there should be no need for the draft.
James48
(4,436 posts)Its the only way to ensure that a very broad section of society has a stake in making sure we become a nation at peace.
It is way too easy to start wars when the politicians own kids, or the chicken hawks kids, have absolutely zero risk.
Draft early, and draft often.
sinkingfeeling
(51,460 posts)supporters will rush to fight his war.
Traildogbob
(8,756 posts)Guns ammo and camo, free. They also give you a bible in boot camp. Now, no hats near you. YeHaaaa! EVERTHING they vote republican for. Promises made, promises kept.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)madville
(7,412 posts)There are always some that like to beat the draft drum every time something happens, theres simply no need for millions of enlisted infantry on the ground.
They would lower standards for volunteers first since the military currently turns away about 75% of volunteer applicants.
Worst case just smoke weed before MEPS, military will always be zero tolerance about that.
gab13by13
(21,360 posts)for the Vietnam draft?
madville
(7,412 posts)And served a couple of decades so Im more familiar with modern military policies and requirements, not how things were done 50 years ago.
gab13by13
(21,360 posts)You are talking about people who enlist, I am talking about people who are drafted, there is a big difference. My cousin had a trick knee that went out on him 3 times during basics and he ended up shooting the 155's in Nam. He also scored #1 on the mental test and put in for electronics but he ended up with a slide rule at the perimeter watching where our shells were hitting.
Modern policies can change when bodies are needed, I know, it happened for Nam.
madville
(7,412 posts)The structure and manpower needs of the military have changed dramatically since the last time there was a draft, wars are not fought the same.
Regardless, they will simply relax standards for volunteers if they need to ramp up numbers for some reason, right now around 75% of applicants are rejected for medical, criminal, weight, past drug use, tattoo and body mutilation policy, credit history, etc. They can be picky right now but there is a huge pool of volunteers available that are currently disqualified for reasons that can easily be waived if needed.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)New Space Force motto
Renew Deal
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People were joking around, but there was no one out there saying the draft was imminent.
My impression was that people thought Iran was a significant adversary. There were also lots of jokes mixed in.
MichMan
(11,938 posts)Must have been some reason that so many people were going there
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)It's actually pretty reasonable.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Maxheader
(4,373 posts)Well, come on all of you, big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
He's got himself in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in iran land..
So put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.
usaf-vet
(6,189 posts)If we were to reimplement the draft I believe it would bring enough families into the streets to protest.
Millions would protest chanting NOT WITH MY SONS AND DAUGHTERS Not for another useless war that does not threaten our shores.
Historically since the end of the draft post-Vietnam, our military has been made up by volunteers. Most of them are family members of veterans. Families who grew up with close military connections are more likely to make a choice to enlist.
I believe the government does not want to reimplement the draft because they know it would bring millions of moms, dads, grandparents, aunts, and uncles into the streets to protest against drafting their loved ones into fighting unnecessary wars. Wars in some foreign country that is no direct threat to invading our shores.
Remember when folks started to protest the war in Iraq and Afghanistan the government's first retort was this is an all-volunteer army. These young men and women have made a choice to enlist and defend our country.
As long as they have that counter not many folks will head to the streets to protest.
A draft would change that.
Non-drafted USAF Veteran 1965-1969. The third generation to serve.
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