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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,057 posts)
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 03:21 PM Jan 2020

Defense chief "didn't see" specific evidence of Iranian threat to embassies

Source: CBS News

Washington — Secretary of Defense Mark Esper said he "didn't see" specific evidence that top Iranian military commander Qassem Soleimani was planning attacks on four U.S. embassies, but said he believed such attacks would have occurred.

"The president didn't cite a specific piece of evidence. What he said was he believed," Esper said Sunday on "Face the Nation." "I didn't see one, with regard to four embassies. What I'm saying is that I shared the president's view that probably — my expectation was they were going to go after our embassies. The embassies are the most prominent display of American presence in a country."

The president and his top officials have said the strike that killed Soleimani, the leader of Iran's elite Quds Force, was justified because there was an "imminent" threat to American service members and diplomats. Members of Congress, however, have raised questions as to the nature of the threat following briefings on the strike that the administration conducted with all members of the House and Senate.

Congressional Democrats have argued the intelligence they were presented did not demonstrate there was an "imminent" threat to U.S. personnel in the region, while some Republicans said the Trump administration was justified in killing Soleimani.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/defense-chief-didnt-see-specific-evidence-of-iranian-threat-to-embassies/ar-BBYSovw?li=BBnbcA1

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Defense chief "didn't see" specific evidence of Iranian threat to embassies (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 OP
Didn't see that it was being planned but he is sure it would occur? Perseus Jan 2020 #1
Category Normanart Jan 2020 #2
"Belief" ain't EVIDENCE bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #3
+1000 alwaysinasnit Jan 2020 #5
Let's just hope Fat Donnie doesn't "believe" Iran is going to nuke us LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2020 #14
Well . . . Iliyah Jan 2020 #4
I believe I will win the Powerball. TeamPooka Jan 2020 #6
Me, too. Scarsdale Jan 2020 #9
Esper was a corporate lobbyist for Raytheon. Lonestarblue Jan 2020 #7
How much plain old common sense Scarsdale Jan 2020 #10
Well, that makes sense. The guy's probably an evangelical right-wing nutter. PatrickforO Jan 2020 #8
Oh, good grief. paleotn Jan 2020 #11
Am I the only one reminded of the "Military Intelligence" jokes from past decades? Fritz Walter Jan 2020 #12
Could it be the fact that he's a defense contractor? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #13
He was in the Army for 10 years TexasBushwhacker Jan 2020 #15
Lt. Colonel after 10 years? Isn't that a little odd, or is it just me? Jedi Guy Jan 2020 #18
I have a cousin who is a Lt. Colonel in the Air Force TexasBushwhacker Jan 2020 #19
How Very ESPERATIONAL! Southern Blueneck Jan 2020 #16
Was he sitting at the table with cotton in his ears and blindfold on his eyes turbinetree Jan 2020 #17
If true, why not? malthaussen Jan 2020 #20
 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
1. Didn't see that it was being planned but he is sure it would occur?
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Sun Jan 12, 2020, 05:42 PM - Edit history (1)

republicans are champions of contradictions, when will they learn that lying is very hard, liars can never remember what they said, and having many people try to be on the same page of a lie is not easy at all.

"No I did not see any evidence, of course that my nose was inside the president's butt, but I heard him say it while in there, so I must agree with it."

14. Let's just hope Fat Donnie doesn't "believe" Iran is going to nuke us
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:26 PM
Jan 2020

despite all evidence to the contrary by every country's intelligence agencies.

"No one knows more about intelligence than I do."

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. Well . . .
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 03:59 PM
Jan 2020

incompetent Republicans are causing actual "imminent" threats to our soldiers and Embassies around the whole.

Dumb shits.

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
6. I believe I will win the Powerball.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 04:08 PM
Jan 2020

Doesn't mean it's true or real or possible.
They are full of shit and lying.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
9. Me, too.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 05:08 PM
Jan 2020

I bought tickets, there was a drawing so I believed I could win. What I find hard to believe is that there are so many people willing to sacrifice their reputation and integrity, defending the less-than person in the WH. What is the hold he has over them? PLEASE do not tell me they respect and admire that obese orange mass of goo. He is the worst person the gop or anyone else could have chosen as their leader. He is a total disaster. The gop will be held responsible for this very worst of presidencies for many years to come.

Lonestarblue

(10,024 posts)
7. Esper was a corporate lobbyist for Raytheon.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 04:26 PM
Jan 2020

What the hell does he know about national security! Like all members of the Trump administration, he is a yes man without the knowledge or experience to do the job he was hired to do by an incompetent commander in chief who surrounds himself only with people who never dare to tell him no. I am so sick of these people. They are nothing more than parasites who are endangering our country.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
10. How much plain old common sense
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 05:13 PM
Jan 2020

does a person need to recognize tRump as a total failure in everything he does? He has never accomplished a thing in his entire life, even with a fortune from daddy. He squandered that. Screwed everyone who ever did business with him over. Taught his "kids" to grift for a living, rather than get an education and WORK. I want to know how much taxpayers have spent so far on this disgusting group of parasites. Mnuchin and tRump want to keep it secret, but we need to know WHERE our money is being wasted.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
8. Well, that makes sense. The guy's probably an evangelical right-wing nutter.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jan 2020

Whether in or out of government, these people have made a 'leap of faith' about Republican policies for years.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
11. Oh, good grief.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 05:43 PM
Jan 2020


THIS is what's running our executive branch right now. "Belief" is not evidence, like hope is not a plan. And THAT is what's driving US military strikes. Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
12. Am I the only one reminded of the "Military Intelligence" jokes from past decades?
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jan 2020

No insult intended for the career military personnel in service to our country.

However, this political appointee hasn’t the first fucking clue as to what’s at stake here. That stated, I hope this quote will haunt his ass for the rest of his life.

And, oh-by-the-way, how’s JarJar Kushner’s Middle East peace plan working out?

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,057 posts)
13. Could it be the fact that he's a defense contractor?
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:01 PM
Jan 2020

Don't know if he has any prior active duty experience.

Jedi Guy

(3,194 posts)
18. Lt. Colonel after 10 years? Isn't that a little odd, or is it just me?
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:07 AM
Jan 2020

My old man was in the Air Force for almost 23 years, and he retired as a major. If he'd opted to stay in after Desert Storm, he would've made lieutenant colonel. This Esper guy was in the service for half as long, and he makes it a rank higher? I know that different people in different fields will advance at different rates, but that still seems awfully strange to me.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
17. Was he sitting at the table with cotton in his ears and blindfold on his eyes
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:02 AM
Jan 2020

or was he singing................LA,LA, LA, LA........................

malthaussen

(17,205 posts)
20. If true, why not?
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:17 PM
Jan 2020

Most of the intelligence agencies report to him. Those that don't would surely want the guy responsible for defense to, like, know about a threat to our defense. Sounds to me like he's trying to have his cake and eat it, and very badly at that.

-- Mal

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