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BumRushDaShow

(129,328 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:08 AM Jan 2020

Trump adds Ken Starr and Alan Dershowitz to impeachment defense team

Last edited Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:25 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CNN



Washington (CNN) President Donald Trump plans to add three seasoned lawyers to his impeachment legal defense team, people familiar with the matter said, including Kenneth Starr, the hard-charging prosecutor whose work led to President Bill Clinton's impeachment. Alan Dershowitz, the constitutional lawyer, and Robert Ray, Starr's successor at the Office of Independent Counsel during the Clinton administration, are also joining the team, the people said.

The three are expected to join a legal team headed by White House counsel Pat Cipollone and outside attorney Jay Sekulow, who are still expected to deliver statements on the President's behalf on the Senate floor. A spokesman for Trump's legal team said Dershowitz "will present oral arguments at the Senate trial to address the constitutional arguments against impeachment and removal."

In a statement, the legal team said, "While Professor Dershowitz is non-partisan when it comes to the Constitution -- he opposed the impeachment of President Bill Clinton and voted for Hillary Clinton -- he believes the issues at stake go to the heart of our enduring Constitution." "He is participating in this impeachment trial to defend the integrity of the Constitution and to prevent the creation of a dangerous constitutional precedent," the legal team said.

Starr and Ray are expected to play a constitutional and historic role during the proceedings to support Cipollone and Sekulow. Trump has relied on Dershowitz for advice throughout the Mueller investigation and during his impeachment. The two had been in discussions about Dershowitz joining for several weeks.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/politics/donald-trump-impeachment-legal-team-alan-dershowitz-ken-starr/index.html





(I think this was expected)

Original headline - Trump expected to add Ken Starr and Alan Dershowitz to impeachment defense team

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Trump adds Ken Starr and Alan Dershowitz to impeachment defense team (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 OP
I hope this causes a leak of nefarious activity on Dershowitz. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #1
Epstein? TheRickles Jan 2020 #5
Yes...ETTD dewsgirl Jan 2020 #22
So Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr don't think that the charges rise to the level high crimes and politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2020 #39
Talk about the D team Botany Jan 2020 #2
Awful lot of lawyers to mount a stonewall defense bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #3
naturally the first thing donnie thinks of is "we need the guy who got oj off the hook!" unblock Jan 2020 #4
Yep! That should really be a smart move. LiberalFighter Jan 2020 #15
Too bad Robert Kardashian passed away Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #33
Glove did not fit because 1) would not slide over the latex glove; 2) OJ was an actor. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2020 #34
Senate Pages need protecting. C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #6
Nothing but the best people Perseus Jan 2020 #7
Pervs of a feather!! Okay, okay...for those who are going to get bullwinkle428 Jan 2020 #8
Nothing but the best people ... Cipolione, Sekulow, Dershowitz, & Ken Starr Botany Jan 2020 #9
What, no Rudy? ChiTownDenny Jan 2020 #25
Rudy's too busy creating new impeachable crimes for the Don. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2020 #35
The best don't want nothing to do with him? LiberalFighter Jan 2020 #17
A Murderers Row of Mediocrity.... dhill926 Jan 2020 #10
And they are all members of the Federalist Society...................that in itself say everything turbinetree Jan 2020 #11
How about we start with why starr left baylor and what dershitwitz did with epstein? nt Javaman Jan 2020 #12
Lev Parnas revealed to Rachel last night just how legally compromised Cipollone and Sekulow are. ancianita Jan 2020 #13
Dershowitz reeks of smugness. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2020 #14
As always, the most important qualifications to be hired by Trump... thesquanderer Jan 2020 #16
Update: it's official now. JudyM Jan 2020 #18
Is it all about the money? JohnnyRingo Jan 2020 #19
Gerry Spence would be.... Toorich Jan 2020 #20
These guys love to be in the public spotlight. patphil Jan 2020 #21
Well then..... Traildogbob Jan 2020 #23
The three sleazes! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #24
Eleven people in history have served as defense counsels during a presidential impeachment. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2020 #26
Hm-m-m---last November, in a TV interview, Starr said Sondland's testimony was Atticus Jan 2020 #27
I can't wait to see these lawyers reaction when Trump doesn't pay them. Midnight Writer Jan 2020 #28
Don't be surprised if the Republican Party pays their way BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #29
That is one reason why Repuiblican A-List attorney Ted Olson will not represent Trump rpannier Jan 2020 #38
He wanted it, he got it...The Donald J Trump Celebrity Apprentice Crapshow Special. Miles Archer Jan 2020 #30
here we go again with old tired retreads. AllaN01Bear Jan 2020 #31
Ken Starr - pious pervert Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #32
Trump raped at 13 year old, now defended by Dersh who raped a 16yo PerceptionManagement Jan 2020 #36
Ken Starr the man fired by Baylor rpannier Jan 2020 #37
Oh, gosh, yes, please. I love the smell of old men ejackula early in the morning...LOL. NotHardly Jan 2020 #40
All the Epstein alumni seem to be coalescing around Trump GeorgiaPeanut Jan 2020 #41

TheRickles

(2,077 posts)
5. Epstein?
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jan 2020

Yes, exactly. Hopefully some of the Epstein material that implicates Dershowitz will soon be leaked. Photos, videos, emails - whatever it takes.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
39. So Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr don't think that the charges rise to the level high crimes and
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 08:38 PM
Jan 2020

misdemeanors the forefathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution. Right!!!! But the forefathers had lying about consensual sex was a high crime worthy of publishing a vulnerable young woman's entire consensual, sexual activity into a BOOK for the entire nation to see; thereby leading the young woman to a public humiliation no one should be subjected to; a mental breakdown, and contemplation of suicide.

If Ken Starr agrees with Dershowitz and is willing to stand next to him in Donald Trumps Impeachment trial with the belief that his treatment of Monica Lewinsky was what the forefathers had in mind, and Trump's conduct is not; he's lying to Congress, the nation, and himself, and he deserves to be disbarred due to a lack of judgement for what he did to Monica years ago, and his obvious lack of common sense.

Botany

(70,555 posts)
2. Talk about the D team
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:12 AM
Jan 2020

BTW Jay Sekulow had people steal money from poor people so they could show Jesus just
how much they loved him.

Esquire Grifting for Jesus
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55931/jay-sekulow-trump-lawyer/

LiberalFighter

(51,020 posts)
15. Yep! That should really be a smart move.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jan 2020

Considering that
1) OJ was guilty and we all know Dershowitz MO.
2) The "If It Doesn't Fit, You Must Acquit" defense would not work again in a trial involving gloves. Especially if they wait 15 months after the murder to put them on again. Leather gloves have shrinkage when not used regularly.

What will Dershowitz use as a defense? Trump's brain doesn't fit in his head? He used his own personal phone so he wasn't officially talking to Ukraine PM?

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
7. Nothing but the best people
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:00 PM
Jan 2020

The Baylor board of regents fired school president Ken Starr on Tuesday amid the sexual assault scandal involving the Bears football team.

And Alan Dershowitz is defending himself from allegations he had sex with one of Epstein's young victims?

Nothing but the best...

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
8. Pervs of a feather!! Okay, okay...for those who are going to get
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:03 PM
Jan 2020

all pedantic on me, we can just refer to Starr as a "perv enabler".

Botany

(70,555 posts)
9. Nothing but the best people ... Cipolione, Sekulow, Dershowitz, & Ken Starr
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jan 2020

Cipolione "...served as an assistant to Attorney General William P. Barr from 1992–1993." From wiki


BTW Jay Sekulow had people steal money from poor people so they could show Jesus just
how much they loved him.

Esquire Grifting for Jesus
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55931/jay-sekulow-trump-lawyer/

ancianita

(36,130 posts)
13. Lev Parnas revealed to Rachel last night just how legally compromised Cipollone and Sekulow are.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:43 PM
Jan 2020

The New Yorker this week reveals, as well, just how these two have worked with William Barr.

Their team smells of the decadence of supporting a "nation of men" over a "nation of laws."

14. Dershowitz reeks of smugness.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jan 2020

Someone who is making the argument "the Constitution is unconstitutional" ought to consider whether he's in the right profession.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
16. As always, the most important qualifications to be hired by Trump...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:49 PM
Jan 2020

...is that someone be recognizable from TV.

JohnnyRingo

(18,638 posts)
19. Is it all about the money?
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:56 PM
Jan 2020

I find it had to believe these learned men are signing on because they think it's what's best for the country, or the constitution. Do they really believe they're defending a man greater than themselves? Will this be their legacy in the history books?

I have a lot of questions.

Toorich

(391 posts)
20. Gerry Spence would be....
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:01 PM
Jan 2020

..... the tangerine turd's only hope, or maybe F. Lee Bailey. But I don't know if they are still
in the game.

Starr always had bright folks backing him up, with him getting the credit, and Dershowitz
has turned into a Fox shill so it's uncertain if he's still got the skills or not.

No matter, the clown car keeps rolling.

patphil

(6,196 posts)
21. These guys love to be in the public spotlight.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jan 2020

I think they like to sound of their own voices.
But, I question their ethics and commitment to truth and justice.
Starr left Baylor under a cloud of possible misconduct, and Dershowitz's dealings with Epstein also suggest ethical shortcomings for both men.

That makes them perfect additions to the Trump legal team.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,481 posts)
26. Eleven people in history have served as defense counsels during a presidential impeachment.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:33 PM
Jan 2020

It would surprise me to find that these guys were not paying trump for the opportunity.

This is a small club. In perspective twelve men have walked on the moon.
You just can't buy that kind of advertising.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
27. Hm-m-m---last November, in a TV interview, Starr said Sondland's testimony was
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jan 2020

"evidence of an impeachable offense" and Trump once called him a "lunatic".

"Strange bedfellows".

rpannier

(24,333 posts)
38. That is one reason why Repuiblican A-List attorney Ted Olson will not represent Trump
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:41 PM
Jan 2020

The other is Trump doesn't ever listen to his attorney

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
30. He wanted it, he got it...The Donald J Trump Celebrity Apprentice Crapshow Special.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 02:37 PM
Jan 2020
Ken Starr was ousted as president of Baylor University after school was rocked by sexual assault scandals



https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/ken-starr-was-ousted-as-president-of-baylor-university-after-school-was-rocked-by-sexual-assault-scandals/

Disgraced former Baylor University President Kenneth Starr, best known for his role investigating Bill Clinton, has been added to the Trump legal defense team for the impeachment trial, according to media reports.

Starr’s investigation into Clinton’s sexual misconduct, culminating with the Starr Report, led to Clinton’s impeachment. Starr also previously served as a federal judge for the District of Columbia Circuit in the 1980s. Under President George H.W. Bush, he served as U.S. solicitor general, arguing cases before the Supreme Court.

Starr was named the 14th president of Baylor University in Waco in 2010 and chancellor in 2013. After the mishandling of campus sexual assault allegations, he was ousted as president in 2016 and resigned as chancellor and law professor shortly after, cutting all ties with the university.

The sexual assault scandal began after a Baylor football player, Sam Ukwuachu, was convicted of rape. (In July, an appeals court reversed the decision and ordered a new trial for the second time in two years.) Testimony during the trial revealed that though Baylor investigated the allegations against Ukwuachu, it failed to take any punitive action. Soon after the conviction, a wave of additional sexual assault allegations were made by female students. An investigation by an outside law firm retained by the university found a pervasive mishandling of sexual assault cases.

During one of many resulting Title IX suits against Baylor, lawyers alleged that Starr and other university officials helped a student they knew to be accused of sexual harassment. The university eventually settled with several of the accusers.

rpannier

(24,333 posts)
37. Ken Starr the man fired by Baylor
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:39 PM
Jan 2020

The sexual assault scandal began after a Baylor football player, Sam Ukwuachu, was convicted of rape. (In July, an appeals court reversed the decision and ordered a new trial for the second time in two years.) Testimony during the trial revealed that though Baylor investigated the allegations against Ukwuachu, it failed to take any punitive action. Soon after the conviction, a wave of additional sexual assault allegations were made by female students. An investigation by an outside law firm retained by the university found a pervasive mishandling of sexual assault cases.
During one of many resulting Title IX suits against Baylor, lawyers alleged that Starr and other university officials helped a student they knew to be accused of sexual harassment. The university eventually settled with several of the accusers.

 

GeorgiaPeanut

(360 posts)
41. All the Epstein alumni seem to be coalescing around Trump
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:44 AM
Jan 2020

and helping that criminal any which way they can so that he doesn't spill the beans on them on twitter.

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