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swag

(26,487 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:07 PM Jan 2020

Documents: Extremist group wanted Virginia gun rights rally to start a 'civil war'

Source: Associated Press

Michael Kunzelman, Associated Press

COLLEGE PARK, Md. (AP) — A hidden camera captured members of a white supremacist group expressing hope that violence at a gun rights rally in Virginia this week could start a civil war, federal prosecutors said in a court filing Tuesday.

Former Canadian Armed Forces reservist Patrik Jordan Mathews also videotaped himself advocating for killing people, poisoning water supplies and derailing trains, a prosecutor wrote in urging a judge in Maryland to keep Mathews and two other members of The Base detained in federal custody.

But the 27-year-old Canadian national didn’t know investigators were watching and listening when he and two other group members talked about attending the Richmond rally in the days leading up to Monday’s event, which attracted tens of thousands of people and ended peacefully.

Last month, a closed-circuit television camera and microphone installed by investigators in a Delaware home captured Mathews talking about the Virginia rally as a “boundless” opportunity.

“And the thing is you’ve got tons of guys who … should be radicalized enough to know that all you gotta do is start making things go wrong and if Virginia can spiral out to (expletive) full blown civil war,” he said.

Read more: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/extremist-group-wanted-rally-to-start-civil-war

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Documents: Extremist group wanted Virginia gun rights rally to start a 'civil war' (Original Post) swag Jan 2020 OP
And the thing is you've got tons of guys who ... dweller Jan 2020 #1
What a genius ArizonaLib Jan 2020 #2
delusional, material_highlighter Jan 2020 #4
Well, it didn't work. Virginia learned well the lessons of Charlottesville. Nitram Jan 2020 #3
They'll keep trying sandensea Jan 2020 #5
Civil War? BlueIdaho Jan 2020 #6
Charles Manson shit: Helter Skelter... 50 years later, same asshole thinking... winstars Jan 2020 #7
Y'all Qaida AnnieBW Jan 2020 #8
I have no problem using the military against them. roamer65 Jan 2020 #9
I was on YouTube and clicked a weird link jimmil Jan 2020 #10
Apparently these RW assholes don't know dware Jan 2020 #12
Maybe you can shed some light on a hypothesis I have... rwsanders Jan 2020 #13
Canadians??? WTH? oldsoftie Jan 2020 #11
Same groups come to Seattle to cause trouble. nt RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #14

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
2. What a genius
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:22 PM
Jan 2020

Why do these guys always think that a few gun shots or causing a rally to get out of hand will cause large scale civil or race war?

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
3. Well, it didn't work. Virginia learned well the lessons of Charlottesville.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:24 PM
Jan 2020

It was managed perfectly.

jimmil

(629 posts)
10. I was on YouTube and clicked a weird link
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 10:35 PM
Jan 2020

It was some right wing stuff about Trump being the last Republican president (I can only hope so) and how the right will have to rise up against the left. Of course, the right has all the guns and will massacre the left wing socialists. He was all in a dither to start a war and do some killin. Obviously this moran has never been in a war and would shit in his drawers if a bullet hit close to him.

dware

(12,385 posts)
12. Apparently these RW assholes don't know
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:25 AM
Jan 2020

that there are just as many combat vet liberals out there who will defend themselves,. including myself.

Semper Fi.

rwsanders

(2,605 posts)
13. Maybe you can shed some light on a hypothesis I have...
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jan 2020

that many of the loudest right wing vets never served in combat, but did have time in the military.
During Bushes presidency, there was a website dedicated to tracking his poor performance in the TX National Guard and how he should have been placed in a combat unit. The site listed all in congress and the cabinet who served and who didn't. Overwhelmingly those who served were Democrats while the right wing ranks were full of chicken-hawks.
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