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Eugene

(61,935 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 02:43 AM Jan 2020

'Denial of justice': Britain rebukes U.S. for not giving up diplomat's wife

Last edited Fri Jan 24, 2020, 04:58 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Reuters

LONDON/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Britain criticized the United States on Friday for refusing to extradite a U.S. diplomat’s wife who was involved in a car crash that killed a British teenager, saying it amounted to a “denial of justice”.

British prosecutors have requested the extradition of Anne Sacoolas over the crash last August in which 19-year-old Briton Harry Dunn was killed while riding his motorbike.

But the State Department said on Thursday that Sacoolas had diplomatic immunity and that to extradite her would set “an extraordinarily troubling precedent”.

British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said on Friday that he had spoken to the U.S. ambassador in London, Woody Johnson, to express Britain’s disappointment.

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EDIT: article updated at link

Original Reuters headline: U.S. denies Britain's extradition request for diplomat's wife
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rpannier

(24,330 posts)
3. Not surprising when you think about it
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:18 AM
Jan 2020

Diplomats and members of the mission are protected for their safety -- to prevent them from being arrested under some bogus charge in a highly authoritarian country (i.e. North Korea for countries with an embassy there).
Family members are also protected to keep the host country from arresting (kidnapping them) for political reasons
It's irrelevant the country or the type of gov't involved. It's the same across the world

James48

(4,437 posts)
2. When I served in the military
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 05:14 AM
Jan 2020

It was well known that if you broke a civilian traffic law and someone was injured or died in Germany (where I was stationed) , it was more likely than not that the US government was going to let the local authorities fully prosecute. If the accident happened on base, and no local nationals were involved, it likely would be a military prosecution only. But if it was in town, and you killed a local national, it was likely you would end up in a local jail for some time.

It is highly unusual for this woman to have caused that accident, and not be returned to the UK for prosecution. Trumps involvement already is harming the US- UK relationship. It’s wrong to keep her here- she needs to stand trial in the UK. Period.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
4. Family members of Diplomatic personel have the same protections as Diplomatic personel do
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:24 AM
Jan 2020

That covers every country

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
8. If I remember correctly, she was not a diplomat's wife at the time of the incident
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:43 AM
Jan 2020

When the teen was killed, she was just engaged to a US diplomat. To me, that is fishy.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
14. Thanks for the correction - I should have checked before I wrote anything.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 07:33 PM
Jan 2020

My husband and I were in the UK at the time of the incident. There was a lot of ill feeling about it, and a lot of rumors. Since we got back, I've had no time to look into it.

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
5. American exceptionalism
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:03 AM
Jan 2020

That woman was given diplomatic immunity retroactively.

Fat chance Britain will ever extradite a criminal we want. Julian Assange comes to mind.

dware

(12,423 posts)
15. I don't believe that's true at all,
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:39 PM
Jan 2020

I do believe she already had DI when the accident happened, but if you have evidence otherwise, I would love to see it.

no_hypocrisy

(46,150 posts)
10. Consider this: To privileged people, they HATE being told that they can't do something.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:00 AM
Jan 2020

In this case, she is shut off from her social life with parties and affairs with the British rich and powerful. Trust me, that counts for a lot to people like her.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
16. I have to go with no hypocrisy on this.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:21 PM
Jan 2020

She may be in the US - where she's protected - but she took this boy's life, and that's not something a female, socialite civilian knows how to compartmentalize well. She's now detested in the UK and can never step foot on British soil again. Believe me, it's a BIG deal and she IS affected by this.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
9. Which is odd, coz of how Rump wants to make sure foreign nations prosecute 'crimes'
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:48 AM
Jan 2020

committed by Americans abroad, sometimes. He hates crime and corruption.

He's too busy worrying about US citizens committing crimes in Ukraine to worry about US citizens committing crimes in the UK. I guess.

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