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highplainsdem

(49,044 posts)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:17 PM Sep 2012

Ralph Reed's Group Compares Obama Policies to Nazi Germany

Source: Mother Jones

A mailer blasted out by the Faith and Freedom Coalition, a nonprofit group spending millions of dollars to mobilize evangelical voters this November to help Mitt Romney's campaign, compares President Barack Obama's policies to the threat posed by Nazi Germany and Japan during World War II. It also says that Obama has "Communist beliefs." A copy of this so-called "Voter Registration Confirmation Survey" was obtained by Mother Jones after it was sent to the home of a registered Republican voter.

The Faith and Freedom Coalition is the brainchild of Ralph Reed, the former head of the Christian Coalition who was once hailed as "the right hand of God" and who is now tasked with getting out the evangelical vote for Romney. In the mid-2000s, Reed was ensnared in the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal. Reed was a longtime friend of Abramoff's, and he took payments from Abramoff to lobby against certain Indian casinos. Reed once ran a religious-themed anti-gambling campaign at the behest of an Abramoff-connected American Indian tribe to try to prevent another tribe from opening a competitor casino. His current efforts for Romney are something of a political rehabilitation for Reed.

-snip-

As the New York Times recently reported, the Faith and Freedom Coalition intends to spend between $10 million and $12 million this election cycle. FFC aims to mobilize 17 million right-leaning, religious voters it has compiled in a database using sophisticated microtargeting methods, Reed said, using phone calls and mailers. Reed's master plan calls for more than 5,000 volunteers to make contact with millions of voters in person, with 25 million voter guides being distributed at 117,000 churches around the country before Election Day.

And this is mailer is a piece of this ambitious endeavor. Accompanied by a donation solicitation, the Faith and Freedom Coalition direct-mail piece asks a series of leading, anti-Obama questions. Obamacare, House minority leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, and Cuba's Fidel Castro all figure prominently in the missive. The most contentious question may be one comparing Obama's policies to the threat of Nazi Germany and Japan during the second World War:

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Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/ralph-reed-obama-mailer-nazi-communist



This is the mailer question referred to above (shown only as an image in the article, so I've typed this up):

QUESTION #10: How much danger do you think liberty is in right now as a result of President Obama's policies, actions and agenda for America's future? (Mark as many answers as you think appropriate.)

More serious than the threats we faced in WWII from Nazi Germany and the Japanese because the attack on liberty today is from our own government.

More serious than the threat we faced from the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

More serious than the American Civil War

All of the above.

Serious, but not as serious as the threats to liberty listed above.

President Obama is not an enemy of liberty.

Undecided.

Other.




The issue of President Obama's "Communist beliefs" comes up in this question:

ISSUE SUMMARY: The anti-American Communist dictator of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez, calls Barack Obama "Comrade Obama" and remarked that he believes President Obama is to the Left of himself and Fidel Castro.

QUESTION #2: Do you think Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro see President Obama as an ally of theirs? Or do you think Chavez was just joking about President Obama's Communist beliefs?



Besides containing these ludicrous, dishonest "issue summaries" and questions, the guide asks people if they're registered to vote, asks them to pledge to vote, and asks them to commit to "freedom-saving volunteer activities" such as distributing the guide, working phone banks, and going to town halls to voice opposition to the President's policies.

The Mother Jones article has an image of the complete mailer, as well as the smaller images of those questions.
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Ralph Reed's Group Compares Obama Policies to Nazi Germany (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2012 OP
Ralph Reed has always been a piece of shit. Solly Mack Sep 2012 #1
Most importantly is the silence of Romney and Ryan. olegramps Sep 2012 #49
They won't condemn Reed- and for the reasons you've stated. Solly Mack Sep 2012 #50
You're absolutely right. Great comment. defacto7 Sep 2012 #57
Such a disgusting oswaldactedalone Sep 2012 #2
Projection. mac56 Sep 2012 #6
No, no, no . . . well at least in certain significant instances, No! It's a DELIBERATE disguise. patrice Sep 2012 #13
Pay attention, class. This is an example of Godwin's Law. mac56 Sep 2012 #3
So he's a communist with nazi policies. Lars77 Sep 2012 #4
don't forget a christian muslin. nt awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #39
Wow. They don't even realize that "Nazi", "Socialist", and "Communist" are different idealogies. 4lbs Sep 2012 #45
That's because their entire being is based on fearing the "other". ET Awful Sep 2012 #47
End-Time-speak. Learn it Democrats! nt patrice Sep 2012 #5
You got that right! defacto7 Sep 2012 #58
Reed has to be the only boy who ever wanted to be Sid Sawyer Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #7
My mother-in-law got one of these. SunSeeker Sep 2012 #8
More projection from the RW, which advocates killing all liberals. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #9
Typical....*yawn* SoapBox Sep 2012 #10
No NO No elbloggoZY27 Sep 2012 #11
I agree with you 100%. Self hate bearing the fruit of omni-hate, racism, & religious bigotry. patrice Sep 2012 #15
I know what I would answer. caveat_imperator Sep 2012 #12
The LIES that caused the War on an INNOCENT nation known as Iraq prove what you say. The Bush patrice Sep 2012 #16
The stench of desperation. nt DCKit Sep 2012 #14
sending out mailers to the troglodytes Enrique Sep 2012 #17
The same group who threatened the Bush agenda in the months preceding March 19, 2003. link: patrice Sep 2012 #18
self professed doomsday cult... n/t nebenaube Sep 2012 #32
Feeding environmental doomsdayism amongst certain predisposed youth demographics. nt patrice Sep 2012 #33
I would like to have just one of these idiots explain what the communist/socialist sinkingfeeling Sep 2012 #19
Me too!!! but They won't do that because they know that it will show how WRONG they are. nt patrice Sep 2012 #34
Notice they don't commit to a side in the Civil War muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #20
At least the Postal Service is benefitting from his waste of money. n/t BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #21
Ralph is unwilling to say Mormons are true Christians. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #22
In a just world maxrandb Sep 2012 #23
Those are some *gloriously* loaded questions. Wow. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #24
Whenever I wonder how any person could believe this shit, I remember that Hitler was not unpopular.. progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #25
There's a phrase lordsummerisle Sep 2012 #26
Well said, Himmler. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #55
that is almost as bad as comparing them to Bush's America. olddad56 Sep 2012 #27
crazy ignorant fucks... NYtoBush-Drop Dead Sep 2012 #28
When individual citizens made some of the same kinds of comparison about W weren't they threatened Ford_Prefect Sep 2012 #29
whenever a Republican mentions Nazis, reporters should give that person a fill in the blank test... yurbud Sep 2012 #30
right winger calling Obama a Nazi... that's hilarious fascisthunter Sep 2012 #31
It's because the truth about the Tea Party's white supremecist heritage is getting out, so, patrice Sep 2012 #35
Crook Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2012 #36
Another cretinous POS NICO9000 Sep 2012 #37
The RW keep saying this crap. Third Doctor Sep 2012 #38
Ah, Godwin's Law. If they have to resort to Hitler, they've already lost. n/t Akoto Sep 2012 #40
And they GET MAD at us for calling them racists all the time!!!! Part 40,000! agentS Sep 2012 #41
irony is these far right call themselves Christians Stewland Sep 2012 #42
Not sure if it's insanity or calculated. raouldukelives Sep 2012 #48
You have to be pretty stupid to eat that... defacto7 Sep 2012 #43
I wish there was a hell so Ralph Reed could burn in it. Zoeisright Sep 2012 #44
Could they lose their non profit status with the IRS for this? nt cstanleytech Sep 2012 #46
reed and nader should be married, it would be a match made in hell /nt still_one Sep 2012 #51
Sounds like a bit of projection to me gopiscrap Sep 2012 #52
Ralph Reed is a dog-raping, crack smoking pervert... LeftinOH Sep 2012 #53
Nathan Sproul Stewland Sep 2012 #54
There is no doubt... defacto7 Sep 2012 #60
Is this the same Ralf Reed? See Video: midnight Sep 2012 #56
Ralph Reed? The guy who enabled REAL slavery in the Marianas? Canuckistanian Sep 2012 #59
I believe psychologists call this projection. n/t area51 Sep 2012 #61

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
49. Most importantly is the silence of Romney and Ryan.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:06 AM
Sep 2012

Their silence in not condemning Reed and his cadre of evil liars speaks more loudly to me than these imbeciles. Ryan especially knows better or at least should be since he claims to believe in Christian ethics. The Republicans have degenerated to lowest level of hatred and prejudice of anyone who opposes their radical agenda. They are willing to bare false witness with impunity to achieve their goals. Their tactics reveal that the Republican Party has become so intellectually bankrupt that their only recourse is outright vile slander of their opponents. Their sole asset is to play on the racial prejudices and evangelical moral tyrants to achiever their goals. It is unfortunate that the very people they prey on are so delusional that they cooperate in the own destruction. I doubt that I have enough years left that I will ever see the scales fall from their eyes and realize that they have been blind to fact they are just pawns to be sacrificed. In short, Useful Idiots.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
57. You're absolutely right. Great comment.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:00 AM
Sep 2012

I am non-religious, but I agree with every word you said. Truth transcends ideology.

Thanks

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
2. Such a disgusting
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:21 PM
Sep 2012

lot of pigs those POS are. Again it's projection, they act like Nazis but say everyone else is one. Amazingly stupid, ignorant, and downright pathetic.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
13. No, no, no . . . well at least in certain significant instances, No! It's a DELIBERATE disguise.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:40 PM
Sep 2012

There are "facilitators" amongst this demographic and they know exactly what they are doing. It's not projection at least for them, though I am certain they know about projection and take advantage of it as they "facilitate" others.

Their movement itself knows that it is a deliberately dishonest tactic that helps them DISTRACT others from the truth about what Romney and his cohort REALLY are = a nationless plutocracy that is trying to take over the USA and then the rest of the world.

It's funny that they are bringing the very thing they say they hate. This means that their hate is SELF hate, because it is constructed of ignorance and LIES.

We live in perilous times.

Lars77

(3,032 posts)
4. So he's a communist with nazi policies.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:22 PM
Sep 2012

No wonder Europeans are bemused by the American political rhetoric.

4lbs

(6,865 posts)
45. Wow. They don't even realize that "Nazi", "Socialist", and "Communist" are different idealogies.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:42 AM
Sep 2012

One can't simply mix and match as one pleases.

But hey, they don't need no schooling. Just more Bible and God.

ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
47. That's because their entire being is based on fearing the "other".
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 07:51 AM
Sep 2012

As long as it's something they can label as different, it's all the same. If their viewpoint says something should be blue, then anything that's not blue could be called red, green, orange, yellow or chartreuse all would mean the same thing.

It's the "otherness" that matters.

SunSeeker

(51,734 posts)
8. My mother-in-law got one of these.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:24 PM
Sep 2012

She is convinced that Obama is the second coming of Hitler. When I tell her that it's Romney that wants to voucherize her medicare that she depends on to live, she tells me its all Obama lies designed to fool us. Some people are irretrievably brainwashed out there by Fox and now Ralph Reed.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
10. Typical....*yawn*
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:27 PM
Sep 2012

When these creeps have nothing else (and they NEVER do!), it's always:

Hitler / Nazi stuff

Homosexuals (take your pick of which "BOO!" they are going to try)

No Abortion, No Abortion, No Abortion (translation: We stick our snouts into women's parts and want to RULE them!)

Anything but Hardcore (made up the way we want) Christianity is Satan worship (yawn)

White! (our favorite color of skin and bed sheets)


....and so it goes. Same old, same old.

Oh Ralphie, you dickhead, *FINGER*!

caveat_imperator

(193 posts)
12. I know what I would answer.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:36 PM
Sep 2012

"President Obama is not an enemy of liberty, but ralph reed and his goons would happily carry out against any opponent of theirs violent actions that would make nazis like hitler, himmler, and mengele proud."

patrice

(47,992 posts)
16. The LIES that caused the War on an INNOCENT nation known as Iraq prove what you say. The Bush
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:51 PM
Sep 2012

administration was threatened by this VERY same group, when he made mild criticism of Israel in the months before March 19, 2003, these people cranked out 100K phone calls to the WH, basically threatening the Bush agenda (which at some point in that time frame was still to privatize social security, i.e. one of the actual objectives of the "political capital" that he expected to gain from a war).

There's an awesome video that gives a very good objective portrait of Evangelicals and End Timers out there somewhere. It was posted here recently, so you can search for it. That video has the 100K phone calls to Bush information in it.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
17. sending out mailers to the troglodytes
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:52 PM
Sep 2012

I hope every time Ralph Reed shows his face on TV, he gets the Abramoff emails read to his face. Reed has no business in our public life anymore.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
18. The same group who threatened the Bush agenda in the months preceding March 19, 2003. link:
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:03 PM
Sep 2012

The Bush administration was threatened by this VERY same group, when he made mild criticism of Israel in the months before March 19, 2003, these people cranked out 100K phone calls to the WH, basically threatening the Bush agenda (which at some point in that time frame was still to privatize social security, i.e. one of the actual objectives of the "political capital" that he expected to gain from a war).

sinkingfeeling

(51,477 posts)
19. I would like to have just one of these idiots explain what the communist/socialist
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:25 PM
Sep 2012

policies, actions, and agenda are.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,385 posts)
20. Notice they don't commit to a side in the Civil War
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:25 PM
Sep 2012

That way, they can get confederacy-loving assholes who think "this is as bad as the War of Northern Aggression" and people who think "this is as bad as slavery" ...

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
22. Ralph is unwilling to say Mormons are true Christians.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:38 PM
Sep 2012

He's happy to have the cultist Mormons THINK that they are accepted as true Christians, because they tend to vote GOP.

But he won't tell them that he believes they are a cult. Not to their faces.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
25. Whenever I wonder how any person could believe this shit, I remember that Hitler was not unpopular..
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:57 PM
Sep 2012

he was not operating in a vacuum. People supported him. People support a lot of really fucked up people because of their fear and ignorance.

Bet Ralph Reed gets tax free income, right???

Why should anyone be shocked, btw, considering that this is the shit Glenn Beck does all the time, and he's on Clear Channel and NOW Dish Network.

lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
26. There's a phrase
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 04:34 PM
Sep 2012

that Thom Hartmann likes to use, which is, when you start comparing someone/something to the Nazis, you've already lost the argument.

NYtoBush-Drop Dead

(490 posts)
28. crazy ignorant fucks...
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 05:27 PM
Sep 2012

Do these idiots know that the Nazis and Communists fought each other and they are not the same thing?

Ford_Prefect

(7,922 posts)
29. When individual citizens made some of the same kinds of comparison about W weren't they threatened
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 06:46 PM
Sep 2012

with arrest and worse? Didn't the same thing happen when something equally comparative was said about the GOP platform along with Mitt & Ryan doctrine statements?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
30. whenever a Republican mentions Nazis, reporters should give that person a fill in the blank test...
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 06:47 PM
Sep 2012

Someone who believes the government should own the means of production is a ______________________.

Someone who thinks corporations should run the government is a______________________________.

Someone who thinks their religion should run the government is a____________________________.

and if they can't answer the questions, include that in their story.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
35. It's because the truth about the Tea Party's white supremecist heritage is getting out, so,
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:37 PM
Sep 2012

of course, they must disown it by projecting it upon others.

http://www.irehr.org/

NICO9000

(970 posts)
37. Another cretinous POS
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:58 PM
Sep 2012

I remember when he was the boy wonder back in the 80s and I thought he was a little pussy back then. Reed is preaching to the choir here; I doubt it will have any impact beyond the moron population.

I can't wait to cast my vote for the Kenyan, Muslim, Socialist, Marxist, Maoist, Communist and now Nazi President Obama!

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
38. The RW keep saying this crap.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:06 PM
Sep 2012

The Nazis were far right lunatics. Which means they are closer to the Nazis ideaology wise than Obama or the Dems.

agentS

(1,325 posts)
41. And they GET MAD at us for calling them racists all the time!!!! Part 40,000!
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:32 AM
Sep 2012

If any of y'all have a spare 10 minutes today, swing by Politics Nation at MSNBC and catch the segment about this issue by Al Sharpton and his guest Frank Schaffer (former evangelical bigwig, now a liberal icon of sorts), who tear this crap down piece by bloody piece.

Long story short, it won't win many voters over.

 

Stewland

(163 posts)
42. irony is these far right call themselves Christians
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:00 AM
Sep 2012

These so call Christian groups promote division and hatred of so many groups that they should be labeled hate groups. True believers might think that God is always with them Love thy neighbor as yourself,turn the other cheek and practice true forgiveness and mercy. But no this group spreads hatred in the name of religion and gets tax exemption for doin the Lords work. Insane is it not?

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
48. Not sure if it's insanity or calculated.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:12 AM
Sep 2012

Perhaps it's all true. JC, the Golden Calf, Bless your enemies, usury and the Ten Commandments. If so, they are the only ones capable of fitting the bill as Anti-Christian. Claiming to be one while making sure every thing you do is the direct opposite of the teachings they claim to admire.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
43. You have to be pretty stupid to eat that...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:19 AM
Sep 2012

I don't want or need to go into my fascism definition rant because this is just too asinine to comment on.

All I want to say is that only closed minded stupidity could possibly accept their logic. But unfortunately there is plenty of stupid around these days.

LeftinOH

(5,358 posts)
53. Ralph Reed is a dog-raping, crack smoking pervert...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:51 AM
Sep 2012

And there's no need to prove it, cause it's right here on the internet!

 

Stewland

(163 posts)
54. Nathan Sproul
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:57 PM
Sep 2012

I just googled him and found out that he is a far right Christian. This should again help us realize that the GOPT is working to establish a theocracy. Dominionist is the term to look up. These theocratic thugs have made inroads already. Do we want more Bachmans, Akins, Santorums and Palins in charge?

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
60. There is no doubt...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:17 AM
Sep 2012

no argument, no reason to believe other than they want a theocracy and most also want to bring on Armageddon. This is sick religion, out of body, crazy, god loves me and wants hell for all non believers, borderline sociopathic, psychotic, god part of the brain gone mad, ...
philosophy. They believe God allows them to lie. At all cost.

They ARE dangerous.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
59. Ralph Reed? The guy who enabled REAL slavery in the Marianas?
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:14 AM
Sep 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-moyers/ralph-reed-in-the-mariana_b_1848059.html

Seems like he'd know a thing or two about "freedom" or more specifically, the lack of it for women working in his sweatshops.
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