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brooklynite

(94,594 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:37 AM Mar 2020

JetBlue passenger on flight from JFK arrives in Palm Beach as positive coronavirus case: officials

Source: WPIX-TV

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — A passenger aboard a JetBlue flight from New York's Kennedy Airport arrived at Palm Beach International Airport as a positive coronavirus case, Palm Beach Fire Rescue said early Thursday morning.

Flight 253 landed at 8:53 p.m. from JFK, but the plane remained on the tarmac instead of proceeding to gate C12. Passengers departed the aircraft around 10:45 p.m., according to PIX11 sister station WPTV.

"The person across the way from me was taken to the back of the plane. He was wearing masks and gloves. His wife was sitting in the same row as me and mentioned to others that he wasn't feeling well. She said he had gotten a phone call with his test results right before we had taken off, implying that he had a positive test but not actually saying it," passenger Scott Rodman told WPTV.

Read more: https://www.pix11.com/news/coronavirus/jetblue-passenger-on-flight-from-jfk-arrives-in-palm-beach-as-positive-coronavirus-case



"he had gotten a phone call with his test results right before we had taken off"
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JetBlue passenger on flight from JFK arrives in Palm Beach as positive coronavirus case: officials (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2020 OP
Parties, dances and plane rides. LisaL Mar 2020 #1
I think containment is no longer possible, slowing the spread dewsgirl Mar 2020 #4
I am trying Delphinus Mar 2020 #26
I think many don't understand and with the media pressing dewsgirl Mar 2020 #30
Why would you get on a plane if you had symptoms The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #2
I doubt his doctor told him to go ahead and fly either. LisaL Mar 2020 #3
He probably wanted to go home Renew Deal Mar 2020 #7
Exactly. Scarsdale Mar 2020 #8
Just think, millions of spring breakers will be bringing this back home, mom Baclava Mar 2020 #5
That and every kind of STD imaginable HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #32
We got pills for that Baclava Mar 2020 #37
They really need to start pressing charges against these people. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #6
I think there have to be formal orders for quarantine, and these people have to break the quarantine LisaL Mar 2020 #9
Charges of what? jberryhill Mar 2020 #10
In South Korea, I believe they are arrested. They aren't dewsgirl Mar 2020 #11
In the US, there needs to be probable cause to believe you have committed a crime jberryhill Mar 2020 #14
Things will change within 14 days. I sure hope they don't, but shit will get real here soon Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #39
In 14 days this country is going to be gldstwmn Mar 2020 #42
You can be charged for knowingly giving someone AIDS. mjvpi Mar 2020 #40
No, it does not apply jberryhill Mar 2020 #43
In Italy, people are being fined 50 Lira for being out during the lockdown Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #38
He knew he was positive before he boarded. I don't know what an arrest will will do but Maggiemayhem Mar 2020 #15
Keep in mind it takes 5-10 days to get a result Maggiemayhem Mar 2020 #17
You have to do something illegal to get arrested jberryhill Mar 2020 #20
+1000 EllieBC Mar 2020 #24
if he KNEW he had the virus DonCoquixote Mar 2020 #27
He didn't know he had the virus jberryhill Mar 2020 #28
You don't think they would have taken him off the plane if they'd known about the diagnosis? TwilightZone Mar 2020 #33
Oh, yeah, stop a plane that is taxiing jberryhill Mar 2020 #34
Selfish and irresponsible asses are going to infect millions. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #12
As noted above, what crime was committed? PJMcK Mar 2020 #31
There are laws for knowingly exposing someone to AIDS, I believe. mjvpi Mar 2020 #41
Palm Beach county residents need to get ready. FM123 Mar 2020 #13
Wait until it hits The Villages Maggiemayhem Mar 2020 #16
Yep, what a scary thought - it would spread like wildfire up there.... FM123 Mar 2020 #25
A bunch of Repuke assholes getting sick is scary? rzemanfl Mar 2020 #29
It's OK - he wasn't coming from Europe hatrack Mar 2020 #18
The test was perfect, too. n/t Yonnie3 Mar 2020 #19
Maybe he should wear a sign "I'm a Moran"? Sancho Mar 2020 #21
"They were allowed to leave the airport without seeing a doctor. " Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #22
Who should have stopped them and how? jberryhill Mar 2020 #35
They weren't told to self-quarantine like everyone else, just monitor symptoms Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #36
Good lord. Our federal government gldstwmn Mar 2020 #44
Need a law to charge him? sanatanadharma Mar 2020 #23
They've charged people who had AIDS and knowingly spread it? Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #45

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
1. Parties, dances and plane rides.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:39 AM
Mar 2020

If people behave like that, how are we possibly going to contain the disease?

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
4. I think containment is no longer possible, slowing the spread
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:42 AM
Mar 2020

should be the strategy..but they aren't even doing that.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
30. I think many don't understand and with the media pressing
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:54 PM
Mar 2020

only the elderly are at risk, only a bad flu, they won't until it's to late. This virus leaves scarring in your lungs and can damage other organs, facts that the media avoid at all costs.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
2. Why would you get on a plane if you had symptoms
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:40 AM
Mar 2020

that led you to get tested and you were still waiting for the test results? WTF?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
8. Exactly.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:44 AM
Mar 2020

If it was implied that he had the virus, why leave NY? Stay home, get treatment there. Who wants to travel when they are sick? If he was gong to Mar-A-Lardo I would understand, since they do not have any consideration for normal people. Wait, he would likely be flying on a private jet if he could afford to stay THERE.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
6. They really need to start pressing charges against these people.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:44 AM
Mar 2020

I believe Italy and South Korea are doing this.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
9. I think there have to be formal orders for quarantine, and these people have to break the quarantine
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:46 AM
Mar 2020

after the formal orders have been issued, for charges to be possible.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
11. In South Korea, I believe they are arrested. They aren't
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:51 AM
Mar 2020

messing around. I think I may have been thinking of breaking quarantine.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. In the US, there needs to be probable cause to believe you have committed a crime
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:08 AM
Mar 2020

Plus, we write the crimes down, number them, and give them names.

Surprisingly, there is no way to arrest people in the US for "doing stuff we don't like" unless that particular stuff is among the crimes that we have written down, assigned a number, and given a name.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
39. Things will change within 14 days. I sure hope they don't, but shit will get real here soon
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:34 PM
Mar 2020

At some point, it will become necessary to enforce a mandatory lockdown.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
42. In 14 days this country is going to be
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:45 PM
Mar 2020

on its ass. On the bright side I do think this will be the end of the Trump presidency.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
43. No, it does not apply
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:50 PM
Mar 2020

Here is a summary of the two most relevant Florida laws, and the acts which are illegal under those laws:

Fla. Stat. Ann. § 384.24(1)

Sexual intercourse without disclosure of an STD3 (not HIV) when the person knows they have it and has been informed that it is communicable through sexual intercourse

Fla. Stat. Ann. § 384.24(2)

Sexual intercourse without disclosure of HIV when the person knows they have it and has been informed that it is communicable through sexual intercourse

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Which of those applies to what happened here?

Maggiemayhem

(811 posts)
15. He knew he was positive before he boarded. I don't know what an arrest will will do but
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:31 AM
Mar 2020

He possibly infected an entire plane of passengers and staff.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. You have to do something illegal to get arrested
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:14 AM
Mar 2020

I guess I wasn't clear.

Yes, I understand what he did.

What I marvel at, on an allegedly Democratic forum no less, is the pervasive idea that people can just be "arrested" for "whatever".

I'm pretty familiar with a whole lot of laws, but always willing to learn something new. I'd like to know which one he would be arrested for violating.

"Getting on a plane while sick" is actually not a crime. He can't be arrested for that.

EllieBC

(3,016 posts)
24. +1000
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:39 AM
Mar 2020

We can’t devolve into a crazed mob with lawyers on speed dial who are out to hang the first person who coughs.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
28. He didn't know he had the virus
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:50 PM
Mar 2020

1. He got his test result after boarding.

2. The plane proceeded to Florida.

Now, did he commit a crime in Florida? If so, what crime?

Or are you saying that New York should issue an arrest warrant and proceed to extradite him to New York for committing a misdemeanor there?

How do you propose to take him back to New York for this important misdemeanor charge?

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
33. You don't think they would have taken him off the plane if they'd known about the diagnosis?
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020

I'd have to disagree. If the plane hadn't yet taken off, it would have returned to the gate and he would have been removed.

It was irresponsible not to inform anyone. He put a lot of other people at risk.

"He didn't know he had the virus"

That's clearly false. He knew he had the virus before the plane departed.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
34. Oh, yeah, stop a plane that is taxiing
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:22 PM
Mar 2020

That will have a happy ending.

He did not have an affirmative duty to somehow try to stop a plane he already boarded.

He should have just gotten up and gone over to a strapped-in FA and told her calmly, "We need to go back to the terminal right now."

Well, yah, that will definitely get anyone arrested.

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
12. Selfish and irresponsible asses are going to infect millions.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:01 AM
Mar 2020

That action is criminal! There needs to be public shaming until this gets into their dense heads! It is not only about them anymore, it is about others.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
31. As noted above, what crime was committed?
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:59 PM
Mar 2020

In America, we actually have laws, although with Trump, you wouldn't know it.

Seriously, what was the criminal act?

FM123

(10,053 posts)
13. Palm Beach county residents need to get ready.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:04 AM
Mar 2020

My county (Broward) is right in the middle between Palm Beach and Dade (Miami) and our numbers just went up to 7. It was just a few days ago that we were the only county here in South Florida with the virus, now it is spreading above and below.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
22. "They were allowed to leave the airport without seeing a doctor. "
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:36 AM
Mar 2020



I'm no expert, but wut? Only passengers in the immediate vicinity of the infected passenger were "given instructions on monitoring their health", and no isolation??

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
36. They weren't told to self-quarantine like everyone else, just monitor symptoms
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:27 PM
Mar 2020

That seems irresponsible in the face of things.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
44. Good lord. Our federal government
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:52 PM
Mar 2020

has no fucking plan. They let these people go home an infect their entire communities.

sanatanadharma

(3,707 posts)
23. Need a law to charge him?
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:38 AM
Mar 2020

How about reckless endangerment? I believe I have seen that charge made over the years as I have read stories about arrests.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
45. They've charged people who had AIDS and knowingly spread it?
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:01 PM
Mar 2020

The question mark is because I recall something like that but not 100% sure.

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