FEDS: KY. MAN WHO RAN OBAMA ROADBLOCK WAS ARMED

[trailmonkee]

Source: AP

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) -- An eastern Kentucky man who federal officials say ran a roadblock during President Barack Obama's visit to the Cincinnati region this month was armed at the time and has a history of mental illness and criminal offenses, federal officials say.

A federal criminal complaint unsealed in Covington on Wednesday says Kerry T. Prater of West Liberty had three weapons and at least 500 rounds of ammunition when he ran through an Erlanger police road block on Sept. 17. Obama's motorcade passed through northern Kentucky that day on the way to Cincinnati.

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Young wrote that police erected the roadblock that afternoon. Air Force One landed at the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Airport in Hebron, Ky., about 16 miles south of Cincinnati.

Prater ran through the roadblock and was forced off the road by an Erlanger police officer, Young wrote.

"Prater refused to exit the vehicle and (the officer) removed him from the vehicle," Young wrote.

After Prater was out of the car, the police officer saw a partially concealed .38 caliber revolver on the front passenger floorboard, Young wrote. The officer then found a .223 caliber rifle hidden under a towel on the rear floorboard with four loaded magazines and 500 additional rounds of ammunition, Young wrote.

A search of Prater's car turned up a third revolver as well, Young wrote.

Erlanger police initially arrested Prater and held him in the Kenton County Jail on three counts of carrying a concealed deadly weapon and fleeing.

Read more: http://www.crescent-news.com/ap%20state/2012/09/26/feds-ky-man-who-ran-obama-roadblock-was-armed

[allan01]

1. re:FEDS: KY. MAN WHO RAN OBAMA ROADBLOCK WAS ARMED

hem.

[aaaaaa5a]

2. Another FOX news viewer heading to jail. nt

[alp227]

26. Article says he threatened Bush in 2004, doubt he's a Fox Boobs viewer,

probably just a nutcase or even further right than FNC.

[Kingofalldems]

3. How did this guy get access to guns?

Looks like we need a lot more oversight in the US.

[upaloopa]

6. No, this kind of thing has diminished since

more people have begun to carry guns.
Anyway that's the meme from the gun lobby.
Someone here carries a gun every day and nothing such as this ever happens.
I'll bet he was carrying his gun the day this didn't happen.

[AAO]

12. Not very reassuring. It only takes one bad day. That's the problem....

Remember, guns don't kill people, people kill people. I'm not concerned much about guns. It's the people carrying them that worry me.

[DBoon]

27. mosquitoes don't kill people

malaria kills people

the more mosquitoes the less malaria

[AAO]

39. Yes, mosquitoes are blameless. They are just trying to put food on their family! n/t

[oldsarge54]

30. Bring back the Well Regulated Miltia

Make it mandatory. With rights comes responsibilities. When the right to bear arms was originated, so was mandatory membership in a state inspected and regulated militia. DC vs Heller is a travesty of the original Constitution.

[slackmaster]

7. The simplest way would be keeping people with extensive criminal records locked up

It's very hard to get a gun in prison.

The complaint, written by Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms Agent Ronald Young, says Prater has a lengthy criminal history and had previously been declared mentally ill.

Being declared (adjudicated by a court of law) mentally ill bars a person from possessing a firearm.

A subsequent investigation turned up Prater's criminal history, which includes a six-month jail sentence for assault, a short jail sentence for menacing, a 60-day suspended sentence for harassment, a 60-day suspended jail sentence for assault of a family member, a one-year suspended sentence for carrying a concealed deadly weapon and several orders from judges barring Prater from carrying firearms.

The assault on a family member, even if it was a misdemeanor, is sufficient to bar Prater from possessing a firearm for the rest of his life.

The guy is just a criminal, and he broke some more laws when he acquired those weapons.

[Ikonoklast]

10. And anyone that sold him a weapon is an accessory to a crime.

Whether they knew he was a mentally ill felon or not.

[slackmaster]

14. Perhaps morally culpable, but not legally. Here is a snipped from the United States Code on that...

Underlining added for emphasis.

18 USC § 922:

...
(d) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person—

(1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;

(2) is a fugitive from justice;

(3) is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802));

(4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution;

(5) who, being an alien—

(A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or
(B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(26)));

(6) who [2] has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;

(7) who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his citizenship;

(8) is subject to a court order that restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child, except that this paragraph shall only apply to a court order that—

(A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had the opportunity to participate; and
(B)
(i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or
(ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury; or

(9) has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.

[Hoyt]

11. Unfortunately, some so-called law-abiding gun owners sell them

to anyone with a fist full of dollars.

[slackmaster]

13. That can be fixed by making the NICS background check system available to people who aren't Type 01

...FFL holders.

As things stand now, there is no way for a non-licensee to properly check the background of someone who wishes to buy a used firearm.

[Hoyt]

19. It can also be fixed by gun owners going through FFL right now.

But most don't care enough to do that. Heck for all we know some Tbagger sold off part of his weapons cache to help this guy.

[slackmaster]

20. That costs money. It doesn't make sense for people to do that if they have a choice.

Access to NICS for the purposes of firearm transfers should be available for free to everyone.

[Hoyt]

21. Right, gun owners can't be bothered to pay $35 or so to a licensed dealer.

Maybe if gun owners actually acted "responsibly", we wouldn't have a lot of problems or concerns.

[slackmaster]

22. It would be pretty fucked up to have to pay $35 to sell an old shotgun for $50

[Hoyt]

23. It would be f*#cked up to do it without checking on buyer's background.

If one is not willing to pay a few dollars to help promote safety of society by checking background of buyer, maybe they really aren't so responsible of a gun owner.

This discussion about private sales probably ought to go to Gungeon.

OP is another discussion, one of real concern.

[slackmaster]

33. $35 is not "a few dollars," Hoyt

For some people it's a substantial amount of money.

[iamthebandfanman]

28. Its kentucky.

I could find a gun within a day or two...
not looking in gun shops, i mean.

[Flashmann]

4. mental illness

Polite speak for teabaggerism.....

[Posteritatis]

24. Fuck that noise and the rotten attitude that encourages it. (nt)

[Turbineguy]

5. Mental Illness

has become code for "watches Fox News".

[Posteritatis]

25. On DU, maybe, and that's something the place needs to grow past. (nt)

[Turbineguy]

31. It's only meant in this context.

But yes, maybe we do need to look at it differently.

[geckosfeet]

8. I have a rifle and three pistols in my car. Think I'll run that police road block.

This asshole is lucky he's still alive.

[Kolesar]

16. No kidding...eom

[Shitty Mitty]

9. What's her FR screename?

?

[Suji to Seoul]

15. Aren't all froth-at-the-mouth Obama haters mentally ill to begin with?

To waste all that energy to hate when it could be used in something constructive, like putting Fixed Noise away and reading a book.

[jtuck004]

17. "... 500 additional rounds of ammunition ...". An optimist. n/t

[krispos42]

18. Oh, ran through the roadblock, duh.

I had a vision of a guy with his own sawhorse "helping" out law enforcement.

[oldsarge54]

29. It is time

To reverse DC vs Heller. Bring back the 13 words.

[Bucky]

32. Does the phrase "has a history of mental illness" mean he's a Limbaugh fan?

Or will Hannity do?

[slackmaster]

34. Mental illness is really not something to joke about

It's not funny at all.

[Bucky]

36. Sorry that I offended.

You are right.

I will only state that the emotional tenor of right wing pundits tends to engage and appeal to people suffering from paranoic delusions. For this man personally, I would hope that, whatever set him off, he gets the help he needs.

[mangermerdeRWfreaks]

35. I love how the mentally ill have easy access to guns in America!

Yet those that think everyone should have em want to make it even easier for the mentally ill to get their hands on them.

USA, USA USA!

[hack89]

37. I would be more concerned about his access to a car.

would you feel safe on the same road as him?

[Posteritatis]

38. I love how Americans consider "the mentally ill" some sort of evil monolith! (nt)

[Blue_Tires]

40. Just once I'd like to NOT see "guns" and "history of mental illness" in the same story...