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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 07:52 PM Apr 2020

CHILE COUNTS THOSE WHO DIED OF CORONAVIRUS AS RECOVERED BECAUSE THEY'RE 'NO LONGER CONTAGIOUS,' HEAL

Source: Newsweek

CHILE COUNTS THOSE WHO DIED OF CORONAVIRUS AS RECOVERED BECAUSE THEY'RE 'NO LONGER CONTAGIOUS,' HEALTH MINISTER SAYS
BY SOO KIM ON 4/14/20 AT 11:36 AM EDT

Cases of the novel coronavirus in Chile have climbed past 7,500, including 82 deaths, while over 2,300 have recovered from infection as of Tuesday, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

But coronavirus patients in Chile who have died are being counted among the country's recovered population because they are "no longer contagious," Chile's Health Minister Jaime Mañalich said this week.

"We have 898 patients who are no longer contagious, who are not a source of contagion for others and we include them as recovered. These are the people who have completed 14 days of diagnosis or who unfortunately have passed away," Mañalich announced at a press conference.

It is unknown when Chile began including the dead among the number of people who have recovered. But the calculation has reportedly been adopted following validation by international health experts, the government claims.


Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/chile-counts-those-who-died-coronavirus-recovered-because-theyre-no-longer-contagious-health-1497775?piano_t=1



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CHILE COUNTS THOSE WHO DIED OF CORONAVIRUS AS RECOVERED BECAUSE THEY'RE 'NO LONGER CONTAGIOUS,' HEAL (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2020 OP
and Chile was susposed to be a civilized, educated (for the most part) country. whow. riversedge Apr 2020 #1
I think Chile went full on Putin induced wingnut authoritarian maxrandb Apr 2020 #8
You've got that right. They have a real humdinger for a President, a man who supported Pinochet. Judi Lynn Apr 2020 #13
Outcry as Chile seeks to include Pinochet human rights abusers in jail release Judi Lynn Apr 2020 #14
I Hope Trump Doesn't See Or Hear This..... global1 Apr 2020 #2
That was my 1st thought👆 SheltieLover Apr 2020 #4
Mine too. Dem2theMax Apr 2020 #10
Yup! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #11
Fuckhead is probably taking notes and trying to figure out if he can fudge the math the same way 47of74 Apr 2020 #12
WTF? Things just get stupider and stupider every day. But get this, in Massachusetts.... George II Apr 2020 #3
Well....technically speaking.... paleotn Apr 2020 #5
Unless the disease acquires "corpse transmission." sakabatou Apr 2020 #6
i thought corpse transmission had been observed already 0rganism Apr 2020 #15
Transmission From Dead Body To Human Confirmed IronLionZion Apr 2020 #16
Holy smokes! Your article should have its own thread. Judi Lynn Apr 2020 #21
Done IronLionZion Apr 2020 #23
Thank you IronLionZion. Judi Lynn Apr 2020 #26
What the ever lovin' fuck??? n/d rustysgurl Apr 2020 #7
Maybe he could be the new WH spokesperson??? Evolve Dammit Apr 2020 #9
If the numbers are "active cases" and "recovered", Igel Apr 2020 #17
There would be at least three categories, five is better. greyl Apr 2020 #20
they'll be giving Trump more ideas Skittles Apr 2020 #18
First of all, the bodies are inectious. LisaL Apr 2020 #19
Trump: "They are well rested. They are doing very, very well" dalton99a Apr 2020 #22
We can keep six feet of distance. Six feet of dirt. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2020 #24
Sounds like Repub reasoning. n/t SpankMe Apr 2020 #25
Chile denied entry to the Dutch cruise ship Zaandam Steelrolled Apr 2020 #27

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
13. You've got that right. They have a real humdinger for a President, a man who supported Pinochet.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:22 PM
Apr 2020

Chile president-elect reveals hardline cabinet with ties to Pinochet

Conservatives to join Sebastian Piñera, who campaigned as centrist
New interior minister was vocal supporter of Pinochet’s dictatorship

Piotr Kozak in Santiago
Tue 23 Jan 2018 18.20 EST

Chile’s president-elect, the billionaire businessman Sebastian Piñera, has unveiled a new hardline cabinet, including prominent conservative figures and some politicians once closely aligned with the Pinochet dictatorship.

The new interior minister, Andrés Chadwick, was a vocal supporter of Augusto Pinochet during his 1973-1990 regime, which named him president of the Catholic University Students Federation.

Chadwick and the new justice minister, Hernán Larraín, were also supporters and defenders of the secretive German enclave Colonia Dignidad, which was established by the fugitive Nazi officer and paedophile Paul Shäfer in the early 60s. It later emerged that the enclave was used by security officials to torture and murder opponents of the regime.

. . .

Piñera’s victory in December’s runoff ended eight years of government by a centre-left coalition under Michelle Bachelet (two non-consecutive four-year terms), and marked the latest in a string of electoral gains for the right in Latin America.

. . .

Antoine Maillet, a political scientist at the University of Chile, said the new cabinet – which will take office on 11 March – clearly demonstrated an intention to turn back Bachelet’s progressive reforms.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/23/chile-president-elect-sebastian-pinera-andres-chadwick

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
14. Outcry as Chile seeks to include Pinochet human rights abusers in jail release
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:38 PM
Apr 2020

Group of senators tries to sneak dictatorship-era military agents on to bill to release prisoners to slow coronavirus spread

John Bartlett in Santiago

Mon 13 Apr 2020 11.32 EDT

Former Chilean military agents convicted of serious human rights violations under the dictatorship of Augusto Pinochet could be freed by a controversial new ruling that seeks to halt the spread of the coronavirus among the country’s prison population.

. . .

But 14 government senators have argued that should also apply to inmates at the infamous Punta Peuco prison – a comfortable facility housing about 70 inmates convicted of dictatorship-era human rights violations.

. . .

According to a 2018 report by Chile’s national human rights institute, the private cells in Punta Peuco are spacious and well-lit, each with a private bathroom, and inmates had access to satellite television, computers, tennis courts and shaded barbecue areas.

This situation is very different from that of other prison facilities in the country, which are overcrowded and often lack basic provisions.

. . .

A 1991 report by Chile’s National Truth and Reconciliation Commission detailed 3,428 cases of forced disappearance, killing, torture and kidnapping under the 17-year dictatorship. The whereabouts of many of the “disappeared” remain unknown, and many perpetrators have refused to reveal how bodies were disposed of.

More:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/chile-coronavirus-pinochet-dictatorship-prisons

global1

(25,251 posts)
2. I Hope Trump Doesn't See Or Hear This.....
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 07:54 PM
Apr 2020

it's another way he can convince himself that he's doing a good job.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
12. Fuckhead is probably taking notes and trying to figure out if he can fudge the math the same way
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:07 PM
Apr 2020

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. WTF? Things just get stupider and stupider every day. But get this, in Massachusetts....
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 07:55 PM
Apr 2020

....when a convicted murderer dies in prison, the guilty verdict is vacated!

That's what happened when Aaron Hernandez committed suicide a couple of years ago.

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
15. i thought corpse transmission had been observed already
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:46 PM
Apr 2020

i agree with your assessment though
WTF indeed

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
21. Holy smokes! Your article should have its own thread.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:27 PM
Apr 2020

This kind of information is totally new to so many people.

Never ever heard of it until tonight.

Thank you for supplying the link.

Think about posting it by itself here, or Editorials and other articles, or g.d. or Science!

Igel

(35,317 posts)
17. If the numbers are "active cases" and "recovered",
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:36 PM
Apr 2020

where would *you* put the dead?

After 6 months there are 4000 active cases left, and they're all dead? If they're still severe cases (and death is severe), do you keep them on ventilators? How long, until the lungs no longer hold air?

Need to know what the words are intended to mean in context. Bureaucratese is not a human language.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
20. There would be at least three categories, five is better.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:23 PM
Apr 2020

Confirmed
Active
Deaths
Recovered

A fifth useful one wuold be Recovered from Symptoms - Still Testing Positive.

A death is not a recovery, certainly.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
19. First of all, the bodies are inectious.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:53 PM
Apr 2020

Second of all, they are certainly not recovered if they are dead.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
27. Chile denied entry to the Dutch cruise ship Zaandam
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:55 PM
Apr 2020

to its scheduled final port. Thanks Chile.

Then it was, for a while, denied passage through the Panama canal. Thanks Panama.

Finally, it was up to the US (and Florida) to take it in.

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