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BumRushDaShow

(129,199 posts)
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:02 AM Apr 2020

Chuck Schumer: Agreement reached on major parts of $500 billion coronavirus aid package

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer/AP

WASHINGTON — Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer said Tuesday agreement has been reached on major elements of a nearly $500 billion coronavirus aid package for small businesses, including additional help for hospitals and virus testing.

Schumer said post-midnight talks among Democratic and Republican leaders, along with Trump administration officials, including White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, produced a breakthrough agreement on the package. “We have a deal and I think we'll pass it today,” Schumer said on CNN. He cautioned that staff are still “dotting the I's and crossing the T's.”

A Tuesday afternoon Senate session could provide an opportunity to quickly pass the legislation if it comes together quickly, though the Democratic-controlled House is planning on calling lawmakers to Washington for a vote later in the week.A senior Senate GOP leadership aide cautioned that the measure is not finalized and that Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., has yet to publicly sign off on it.

Schumer said that Meadows and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin were in close contact with McConnell during the endgame talks. “Every major issue was resolved," Schumer said. “So yes, I believe we have a deal.” M ost of the funding, more than $300 billion, would go to boost a small-business payroll loan program that ran out of money last week. Additional help would be given to hospitals, and billions more would be spent to boost testing for the virus, a key step in building the confidence required to reopen state economies.


Read more: https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/chuck-schumer-coronavirus-aid-package-small-businesses-500-billion-dollars-20200421.html



From what I understand - they were able to get a provision in this draft to be allow the reprogramming of funds from the previous stimulus measures, not originally designated for states/counties/municipalities, to help state/local budget needs (vs being able to have a separate additional fund in this version, for that purpose).
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Chuck Schumer: Agreement reached on major parts of $500 billion coronavirus aid package (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 OP
if money was reallocated to, Igel Apr 2020 #1
That's probably buried in the draft at the moment BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #7
They need to fix the small business loan program first as too many corps are getting too much in2herbs Apr 2020 #2
Yeah this will be sweet bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #3
I hope they are going to help the postal service. Mr. Sparkle Apr 2020 #4
So we got the shaft with the aid package when the money was handed out to doc03 Apr 2020 #5
"What was it GWB tried to say" BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #8
Or as Will Ferrel put it: "Shoe me once, shoe's on you. Shoe me twice, I'm keepin' those shoes" flibbitygiblets Apr 2020 #19
LOL BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #22
Any money for post office and vote by mail? Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2020 #6
Probably not, FoxNewsSucks Apr 2020 #9
+1 Galraedia Apr 2020 #11
Post office needs to be its own bill The Mouth Apr 2020 #17
When politicials say "small business" and "family farms," they are lying. n/t spike jones Apr 2020 #10
They are referring to the penis sizes of the businesses' owner DBoon Apr 2020 #21
READ every fucking word! bluestarone Apr 2020 #12
Yes indeed! old guy Apr 2020 #14
No stimulus bill should be passed that doesn't provide funding for the post office. Galraedia Apr 2020 #13
Agree here bluestarone Apr 2020 #16
No bill should be passed that doesn't assign 2 Democratic House Members maxrandb Apr 2020 #24
we know the last package major giveaways were ignore (or not) by democrats, is this another repeat? beachbumbob Apr 2020 #15
we keep tossing "billions" around, and then, poof! it's gone RussBLib Apr 2020 #18
I hope that Schumer and the other Democrats don't get rolled again. totodeinhere Apr 2020 #20
I don't trust this... sdfernando Apr 2020 #23
Remember when they made Bernie read his entire single payer bill? maxrandb Apr 2020 #25
I hope that we don't get rolled again. Will this be another big giveaway to large corporations totodeinhere Apr 2020 #26

BumRushDaShow

(129,199 posts)
7. That's probably buried in the draft at the moment
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:32 AM
Apr 2020

There are large tranches of money in the previous 2.2 trillion previous stimulus package(s). From an earlier WaPo breakdown, am thinking these items might be reprogrammable --

What’s in the $2.2 trillion coronavirus Senate stimulus package

By Jeff Stein
March 26, 2020 at 12:00 a.m. EDT

<snip>

TOTAL COST: $280 billion

Hospitals, expanded health-care spending. The legislation also includes hundreds of billions of dollars in funding to help prepare America’s health-care infrastructure for the coronavirus.

The centerpiece of that section of the bill, a key ask of Senate Democrats, is a $100 billion fund for hospitals and providers hit hardest by the outbreak. That money can be used for protective gear for health-care workers, testing supplies and emergency operation centers, among other necessities. The provision was written amid bleak outlooks at many hospitals, particularly in rural America, that fear they will be overrun by a massive influx of patients.

The legislation also increases funding for community health centers; Medicare payments; telehealth and home service; and public health agencies such as the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

<snip>

TOTAL COST: $175 billion

Other items in the package include $45 billion for the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s disaster relief fund; $31 billion to support local schools and colleges; $25 billion for the nation’s transit systems; and $25 billion for more food stamp funding.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/26/senate-stimulus-bill-coronavirus-2-trillion-list-what-is-in-it/


Much of the rest in that earlier bill was either direct payments to eligible people, plenty of loans, and lots of tax breaks for businesses (with some funds that had already been designated for state/local use). So not necessarily much "cash" there...

I think what ended up happening (examples noted by Cuomo during his pressers) is that states were buying the PPE, test equipment, etc. (as a large bidder vs each hospital trying to do that individually), and then handing that out to the hospitals (vs individual hospitals trying to do that). So perhaps the states can be reimbursed from the earlier funding (as reprogrammed) that had been designated for hospital use only, since the state used their own non-budgeted money to procure stuff in bulk (at more of a discount due to order size) for their state's medical facilities.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
2. They need to fix the small business loan program first as too many corps are getting too much
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:13 AM
Apr 2020

of the money instead of the mom and pop businesses and their workers.

bucolic_frolic

(43,227 posts)
3. Yeah this will be sweet
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:13 AM
Apr 2020

They can't print enough money to pay for a quarter of the financial damage done by the virus. Fed Philly Manufacturing index - down 67%. This pandemic will melt balance sheets. In a crash, all debt is extinguished. It's the basic of accounting, debits and credits.

I fear inflation and state and local tax increases following this debacle. School taxes - aren't closed schools cheaper to operate? No heat, no electric, no buses. Where's the savings?

Paying salaries up to $99k at full rate in the stimulus. More than these people would get by filing unemployment. $2400 to married households plus $500 per child.

Little people got shorted again.

Reopenings will be piddling and slow. Retailers will make up for lost time with price increases. Already seeing it online at closed retailers.

doc03

(35,355 posts)
5. So we got the shaft with the aid package when the money was handed out to
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:21 AM
Apr 2020

big corporations instead of who it was intended for. So now they trust this one will be different. What was it GWB tried to say
"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
19. Or as Will Ferrel put it: "Shoe me once, shoe's on you. Shoe me twice, I'm keepin' those shoes"
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:03 PM
Apr 2020


Shoe quote starts at 3:50, but the whole thing is LOL funny.

The Mouth

(3,160 posts)
17. Post office needs to be its own bill
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:30 AM
Apr 2020

That way even the reddest of red state Republicans won't dare vote against it.

I HATE cramming different stuff into the same bill; Let's get help to SMALL BUSINESSES (which employ most Americans), which everyone can get behind and deal with the PO and vote by mail as separate issues.

Left and right should stop cramming everything they want into these big mega bills, the more granular, the better.

Galraedia

(5,026 posts)
13. No stimulus bill should be passed that doesn't provide funding for the post office.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:06 AM
Apr 2020

Period. It is absolutely ridiculous to provide large bailouts for big corporations and even more ridiculous to not include any bailout money for the U.S. Postal Service.

maxrandb

(15,338 posts)
24. No bill should be passed that doesn't assign 2 Democratic House Members
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 04:05 PM
Apr 2020

To look over Mnuchins shoulder with a hammer in one hand as the funds are dispersed.

Fucker shouldn't even be allowed to go to the fucking bathroom unsupervised.

RussBLib

(9,026 posts)
18. we keep tossing "billions" around, and then, poof! it's gone
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:32 AM
Apr 2020

used to be hard to get a few million, now we're talking trillions.

And as usual, the debt shoots sky-high under these "fiscally-conservative" Republicans.

And, as usual, it will take Democrats to piece things back together, with Republicans fighting them every step of the way.

Rinse and repeat

sdfernando

(4,936 posts)
23. I don't trust this...
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 03:08 PM
Apr 2020

"Schumer said that Meadows and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin were in close contact with McConnell during the endgame talks"

I don't trust anything where turtleface was involved. I'm sure there is some other poison in there to benefit the corporate elite and we won't know about it until after the fact.

maxrandb

(15,338 posts)
25. Remember when they made Bernie read his entire single payer bill?
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 04:07 PM
Apr 2020

Some Democrat needs to require that. EVERY GOD DAMN word and footnote is read.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
26. I hope that we don't get rolled again. Will this be another big giveaway to large corporations
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 04:09 PM
Apr 2020

and just a few crumbs for the rest of us?

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