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SpankMe

(2,958 posts)
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:06 PM Apr 2020

Bipartisan Senate report says 2017 intel assessment about Russian interference and Trump was accurat

Source: nbcnews.com

A bipartisan investigation by the Senate Intelligence Committee has validated the January 2017 U.S. intelligence assessment describing Russia interference in the 2016 presidential election — including Russian efforts to help Donald Trump — describing it as accurate, thorough, and in keeping with long-established practices.

“The Committee found no reason to dispute the Intelligence Community’s conclusions," said Chairman Richard Burr, R-N.C.

The new report by the Republican-run committee — which examines how the assessment was put together — undercuts long-standing criticisms by some of President Trump's supporters that the assessment overstated Russia's activities.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/bipartisan-senate-report-says-2017-intel-assessment-about-russian-interference-n1188696



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Bipartisan Senate report says 2017 intel assessment about Russian interference and Trump was accurat (Original Post) SpankMe Apr 2020 OP
Too little too late ananda Apr 2020 #1
they had already concluded this a while ago NewJeffCT Apr 2020 #8
Agree. They're saving it for a last-minute get-out-the-wingnuts tactic. Lonestarblue Apr 2020 #16
dems can take it a step further by pushing media to investigate russian use of talk radio certainot Apr 2020 #23
If we can't get the media to do the investigation, what about academics? summer_in_TX Apr 2020 #28
artificial intelligence makes it a lot easier now to monitor and corroborate radio and certainot Apr 2020 #30
Good point. I'd love to see the research undertaken. summer_in_TX Apr 2020 #32
Wow! This is great news for us, Mueller and all the other FBI, NSA,CIA folks! machoneman Apr 2020 #2
This was an affirmation of their original conclusion NewJeffCT Apr 2020 #9
Tell us something we don't know. Scarsdale Apr 2020 #21
part of what's still hidden in Mueller R is clearly related to talk radio and by extension russian certainot Apr 2020 #31
Oh, noes ... Ligyron Apr 2020 #3
that is interesting.. stillcool Apr 2020 #4
no - they had already concluded this last year NewJeffCT Apr 2020 #10
this court jester llashram Apr 2020 #5
Another RWNJ BS conspiracy theory down the drain ... you'd think they learn (nt) mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #6
2016- NO red flags went up. NO concern for her warning at the time. Budi Apr 2020 #7
but the repubs CRK7376 Apr 2020 #11
No. 45; America's First Illegitimate President. procon Apr 2020 #12
Exactly. That's who he's been from the get-go. calimary Apr 2020 #26
This is 2020. What is Senate doing? Oh, investigating China nonsense. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #13
So.....if recent patterns of behavior continue NoRoadUntravelled Apr 2020 #14
Issue an executive order annulling the Senate. No more problem. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2020 #15
That's the people Trump called "crooked", "human scum" during a White House coronavirus briefing muriel_volestrangler Apr 2020 #17
In other breaking news ... RRDrummer Apr 2020 #18
Fake news! Neerav B. Trivedi Apr 2020 #19
Internal DOJ memo Python boot Apr 2020 #20
Guess we won't have a presser for a couple days.... Chakaconcarne Apr 2020 #22
trump is Putin's puppet Gothmog Apr 2020 #24
k and R riversedge Apr 2020 #25
Now Trump is gonna want to fire the Senate. tclambert Apr 2020 #27
Putin publicly admitted it in Helsinki. dalton99a Apr 2020 #29

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. they had already concluded this a while ago
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:56 PM
Apr 2020

this just reaffirms what they concluded.

It doesn't matter what they found or what the DOJ IG found, Bill Barr is going to have John Durham concoct a BS story that will drop in October.

Lonestarblue

(10,028 posts)
16. Agree. They're saving it for a last-minute get-out-the-wingnuts tactic.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 01:49 PM
Apr 2020

We can also expect some made-up crap about Biden to come out. They probably have busy little trolls in Russia right now creating documents with mountains of utter nonsense.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
23. dems can take it a step further by pushing media to investigate russian use of talk radio
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 03:06 PM
Apr 2020

those 1500 coordinated radio stations do the groundwork uncontested repetition

media needs to investigate russian use of talk radio since at least 2008 when manafort was mcccain campaign co-chair and limbaugh wouldn't support him untill mccain picked palin - who was being wooed by russian oil and gas.. 2009 climategate, with wikileaks involved. 2011 debt default. etc then 2014 is the year sam nunberg says he "listened to 1000s of hours of talk radio" for trump, the same year a russian troll says they "got a list of topics to write about". also 2014 russian tool jerome corsi and limbaugh spent a good part of oct 2014 yelling about obama bringing ebola here. that stopped immediately after the election when GOP turned 9 senate seats and a lot of congress. and why is hannity's name redacted completely in the muelller report even though he is mentioned incidentally several times and should be there between graf and hawker. some if not a lot of the mueller report redactions have to do with talk radio - redactions around stone, corsi, credico - all long time talk radio operatives, not social media geniuses.

and considering 2014 and ebola success why wouldn't trump try to use covid in 2020? trump would be stupid enough to talk into it, unable to see the difference. media needs to get it. the signs are there.

yeah they're going to make up more shit on biden and unless dems stop ignoring talk radio , which is very vulnerable right now, it will continue with great success, the most important and only unique media advantage they have - because we ignore it.

when the left get serious about talk radio the ad industry will have to breaak up the monopoly and the GOP senate will have to turn on trump, realizing those radio stations might not be there to defend their bending over for trump.

summer_in_TX

(2,739 posts)
28. If we can't get the media to do the investigation, what about academics?
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:24 PM
Apr 2020

Particularly a think-tank or other prestigious group funding the examination of talk radio connections with Russia, particularly with GRU and other Russian intelligence. And the oligarchs.

Working journalists are facing enormous challenges in their work and over-leveraged media companies often cut jobs to cut costs. Only paid investigators are likely to have the time and energy to investigate ties between right wing media and Russia, while not needing to worry about feeding their families and paying their bills.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
30. artificial intelligence makes it a lot easier now to monitor and corroborate radio and
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:31 PM
Apr 2020

social media with vastly improved transcription and analysis - someone has to do it and it's way overdue

summer_in_TX

(2,739 posts)
32. Good point. I'd love to see the research undertaken.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:41 PM
Apr 2020

Wish I had the skill set needed or the contacts to interest others in such an important project.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
2. Wow! This is great news for us, Mueller and all the other FBI, NSA,CIA folks!
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:18 PM
Apr 2020

Maybe not too late to use in Biden and state level campaign ads against the OrangeBloviator!

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
21. Tell us something we don't know.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:26 PM
Apr 2020

Also, isn't it time to release the Mueller report in full, unredacted form? What is STILL being hidden? I was so upset with Mueller, for not speaking out when Barr made mincemeat of the report. All those dedicated people worked hard to get to the bottom of the corruption. Mueller let them all down, by keeping quiet after the report was released in a few pages of propaganda. I honestly thought Mueller was an honorable man. I was wrong. Typical toadie for tRump.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
31. part of what's still hidden in Mueller R is clearly related to talk radio and by extension russian
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:40 PM
Apr 2020

use of it.

in the glossary there are only half a dozen redactions. a few total redactions of names and brief descriptions and several partial redactions of descriptions after stone, corsi, and credico - all long time related to talk radio aand not social media geniuses. one of the totally redacted names is right between graf and hawker, exactly where hannity should be because he's mentioned incidentally several times in the report

it's fucking amazing media is still so lame on rw radio

Ligyron

(7,636 posts)
3. Oh, noes ...
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:27 PM
Apr 2020

The RW CT public figures and their brain dead sheeple will be soooo disappointed.

The ones I know were really counting on that...

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
10. no - they had already concluded this last year
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:57 PM
Apr 2020

or the year before. They were just affirming that their original investigation was correct

llashram

(6,265 posts)
5. this court jester
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:38 PM
Apr 2020

of a potus had all help mentioned. Yet I find that the point being missed is that trump the court jester is the one that sat on the king's throne in his absence, leg over arm of chair swilling his wine, issuing empty edicts to the unwashed masses while the real powers mcConnel, Putin, Xi, the Saudi prince's are creating the madness in this world. Covid is something they probably did not count on, but are using it to their advantage. To keep a people in fear is to make them vulnerable to the first strong man to come along and say, I will save you. Trump is following the orders of many while in being the weakling that he is follows the real 'strongmen' behind the throne while trying to appear strong. The jester was supposed to be the foil, he is the clown that is the foil.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
7. 2016- NO red flags went up. NO concern for her warning at the time.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:52 PM
Apr 2020

SNIP
"..the most cynical viewer could scarce have imagined, in the fall of 2016,
* ON 19 OCTOBER 2016, in the third and final presidential debate, Hillary Clinton opined that Vladimir Putin would “rather have a puppet as president of the United States,” meaning Donald John Trump, than a formidable adversary like her. As Trump short-circuited like a Star Wars droid on the fritz (“No puppet. No puppet. You're the puppet!”), she continued:"


HRC ~
"It’s pretty clear you won't admit that the Russians have engaged in cyberattacks against the United States of America, that you encouraged espionage against our people, that you are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do, and that you continue to get help from him, because he has a very clear favorite in this race.

So I think that this is such an unprecedented situation. We've never had a foreign government trying to interfere in our election.
We have 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military, who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyberattacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin and they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing."


*As usual, HRC was right. But even the most cynical viewer could scarce have imagined, in the fall of 2016, just how on the nose she was.



*Hear are a couple of excellent reports from Greg Olear:

"From Trump to tRUmp: How the Mob’s Man Became Putin’s Puppet"
The President of the United States is a Russian asset—property owned by Moscow.
https://gregolear.substack.com/p/from-trump-to-trump-how-the-mobs
____________________

"Tinker, Tailor, Mobster, Trump"
What happens when a Confidential Informant becomes President?

https://gregolear.substack.com/p/tinker-tailor-mobster-trump

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. No. 45; America's First Illegitimate President.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 01:08 PM
Apr 2020

There's a new "first" for comrade Trump, Moscow's candidate, to brag about.

calimary

(81,350 posts)
26. Exactly. That's who he's been from the get-go.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 05:53 PM
Apr 2020

I seriously doubt I will ever be able to accept any purported legitimacy of his election. Not when he got help from an avowed longtime enemy of America.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
14. So.....if recent patterns of behavior continue
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 01:17 PM
Apr 2020

it will only be a short time before tRump goes after Richard Burr.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,527 posts)
15. Issue an executive order annulling the Senate. No more problem.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 01:30 PM
Apr 2020

Today's dog and pony show will be a stemwinder.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,326 posts)
17. That's the people Trump called "crooked", "human scum" during a White House coronavirus briefing
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:05 PM
Apr 2020

on Sunday.

Trump claimed he was a fan of the FBI, but then said that its leaders were "scum."

He also criticized the FBI for its treatment of former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who pleaded guilty to lying to investigators during the Russia investigation. He claimed that what the FBI did to Flynn was a "disgrace" considering the figure's military service.

"These were crooked people," he said.

"You know what they are, though, they’re scum, they’re human scum," he said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493631-trump-calls-fbi-investigators-in-russia-probe-human-scum

because they did their jobs.
 

Neerav B. Trivedi

(205 posts)
19. Fake news!
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:13 PM
Apr 2020

This is a Democratic hoax by Crooked Hillary, Nancy Pe-Loser and Crying Chuck Schumer.......oh brother. What a toddler!

The sooner we vote Trump out of office, the better this country and this world will be. Please make sure you get out the vote this coming November and get Biden elected as the next President of the United States. I will do the same.

Python boot

(74 posts)
20. Internal DOJ memo
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:17 PM
Apr 2020

Seriously? My country is on the verge like this because an internal DOJ memo that says you can't arrest a sitting president has the majority in this country stymied? Speaker Pillosi cannot do it all alone. State AGs, judges, Governors should be calling for the impeachment of Barr then Indictment of the fake president.

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