Californians must wear face masks in public under coronavirus order issued by Newsom

[brooklynite]

Source: Los Angeles Times

SACRAMENTO — Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday ordered all Californians to wear face coverings while in public or high-risk settings, including when shopping, taking public transit or seeking medical care, following growing concerns that an increase in coronavirus cases has been caused by residents failing to voluntarily take that precaution.

Newsom’s order comes a week after Orange County rescinded a requirement for residents to wear masks and as other counties across California are debating whether to join other local jurisdictions in mandating face coverings. The Newsom administration did not address how the new requirement will be enforced or if Californians who violate the order will be subject to citations or other penalties.

“Simply put, we are seeing too many people with faces uncovered — putting at risk the real progress we have made in fighting the disease,” Newsom said in a statement. “California’s strategy to restart the economy and get people back to work will only be successful if people act safely and follow health recommendations. That means wearing a face covering, washing your hands and practicing physical distancing.”

Until now, state public health officials had only recommended that Californians wear the face coverings which, if worn by someone with the virus, have been shown to decease chances of spreading it to others. The Sacramento Bee on Wednesday first reported that the Newsom administration was considering a statewide face covering requirement.

Read more: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-18/california-mandatory-face-masks-statewide-order-coronavirus-gavin-newsom

[samnsara]

1. no one is wearing them anywhere :(

[hardluck]

4. Weird.

I’d say I’m seeing about 80% compliance in the SoCal area where I live.

[Dream Girl]

5. I see about that in the Bay Area

[FreeState]

12. I see above that in San Diego as well

at stores I have seen 100% compliance.

[aggiesal]

17. I agree to almost 100%, ...

At the DMV in Chula Vista, the line was long (2-3 hours long), but everyone was wearing a mask except 1 person (white male, not that this should matter).

[FreeState]

19. Yep - I haven't seen someone without on in weeks n/t

[stevil]

20. Pretty much 100 percent in Palm Springs

Except for the few Trump loving refuges dotted throughout the town, which are mostly bars.

[NJCher]

26. just zoomed with someone in San Diego 5" ago

Said beaches are wall to wall people and not wearing masks.

Mission Beach, I think he said.

[FreeState]

37. Here's a live feed of Mission beach

https://www.livebeaches.com/webcams/mission-beach-boardwalk-cam/

Our beaches haven’t been perfect but I’m sure you can see they are hardly packed and very few people not wearing them.

[NJCher]

46. the person didn't say 24/7

eom

[More_Cowbell]

15. Me too

They've been required for some time in my county.

[chia]

13. Same. There are people who don't but they're the exception. A lot of stores require them,

and I think that's a big boost to compliance. The further east you go though...

[BigmanPigman]

33. Me too.

Not at the bars and restaurants though.

[diva77]

38. I'm in SoCal too - very low percent wearing masks at this point. It's truly discouraging. This is

a blue area, too.

I think we need celebrities to film public service announcements proclaiming the need to wear masks, socially distance, wash hands, etc. etc. There is no outreach with the message.

[Demovictory9]

50. High % compliance in orange county

[soothsayer]

2. Good

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. Good. Now, put some enforcement teeth in it! n/t

[SergeStorms]

23. That's the rub, right there.

Governor Cuomo has had this mandate in New York for months now. In the beginning there were very few who didn't wear them. Now, every time I go to the store I see fewer and fewer people wearing masks. There are big signs at the entrance of the stores that people are required by NYS mandate to wear face protection. There are smaller signs throughout the stores, along with hand sanitizing stations throughout, but I'd say it's up to about 25% (or more) of people not wearing any sort of face covering whatsoever. I asked several store employees about this, and they said they weren't allowed to confront customers about their lack of compliance. As an aside, these non-compliers look like Trump humpers, but that's only my own prejudices talking there.

So what good is a mandate if no one is enforcing it? You ask the right question, CaliforniaPeggy.

[The Mouth]

6. Should be the same penalty as DUI

for exactly the same reasons.

[durablend]

7. Loopholes you can drive a truck through...

"The state mandate exempts children 2 years old and under and people with a medical, mental health or developmental disability that prevents them from wearing a face covering. Restaurant customers are also exempt when eating and drinking, as are residents recreating outdoors as long as they are able to socially distance from others.

Face coverings also are not required for the hearing impaired, or those communicating with them, or for workers whose health may be put at risk or may need to temporarily remove a mask to perform a task or service."


Uh huh...gonna be a helluva lot of people who suddenly became disabled or "hearing-impaired"

[keithbvadu2]

8. Huh?

[sandensea]

10. I'm surprised OC Republicans haven't had facemask burning parties at the beaches already

Not that all that many of them frequent the county's beautiful beaches anymore.

"Too many Mexicans these days," is the way one once put it to me.

[stopdiggin]

11. I don't have any problem with common sense

accommodation. Scofflaws will be scofflaws (or as*holes if you prefer). My concern is to get as much good faith (and willing) compliance as possible. I hope this works toward that end.

[SunSeeker]

24. Those are reasonable exceptions. As long as the majority wear masks, it will work.

This Cambridge study released June 10, 2020 found that if a majority more masks, it kept the "R" value below 1.0, i.e. keeps the daily number of cases from increasing:  https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKL8N2DN1M7

[DeminPennswoods]

40. Giant Eagle grocery stores are being sued under the ADA

for forcing customers to wear masks even if they have a medical condition, which is the same as the one quoted above in Pennsylvania. In phase 3 (green) stage of re-opening, masks for consumers are optional although businesses can continue to require them for entry/service and masks are mandatory for employees.

[keithbvadu2]

9. CA Trumpsters have already spoken out against masks.

CA Trumpsters have already spoken out against masks.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213462561

[miyazaki]

14. These idiot assholes are still protesting masks

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/06/16/orange-county-oc-anti-face-mask-mandate-union-faith-business-leaders-want-reinstatement-covid-maskers/

Now they're really going to go apeshit.

[Juneboarder]

18. These "liberators" are just going to prolong our chances at overcoming this.

I got into it with a former coworker yesterday on FB because they were daring anyone to confront her about wearing her mask and strongly asserts that she is protesting wearing a mask. You just can't fix stooopid, but in the meantime, we will all suffer as a result of these actions.

[dhill926]

39. hard to wrap my head around...

the layers of fuckedupness to that sign...

[FirstLight]

16. It's not gonna do any good, people are not going to comply for shit

Living in Lake Tahoe, seems like all our tourists have decided that they are FREE!! when it comes to vacationing... they just throw their masks out the window when they get up here...

It's been scary since memorial day and I am watching our numbers climb here as well


until people are dropping on the street, this is not seen as an actual medical emergency

I'm trying to limit my outings as well. but just dont have the $$ to get week's worth of groceries, and I also can't do the curbside cuz that store is super expensive...

[SunSeeker]

21. Thank you Governor Newsom for listening to folks like me who sent you emails asking for this!

As I said in my email, I live in Orange County, where the Republican-dominated Board of Supervisors recently rescinded our mask mandate, endangering all of us right as cases and hospitalizations in the county were spiking.

THANK YOU for overruling the idiotic science-denying Republicans in my county!!

[BigmanPigman]

35. Thank you for emailing him!

[kimbutgar]

22. Everywhere I've been in San Francisco and San Mateo everyone is wearing masks

I think it’s the red repuke areas they are not complying. Yolo county has had a big spike and it’s Blood Red repuke area. A friend Of mine was up in Sacramento area this past weekend and not many people wearing masks which is the county next to Yolo.

[SunSeeker]

36. Yup, largely red Orange County is experiencing a spike because Republicans won't wear masks.

They are science denying assholes. Hopefully this mandate will get at least some of them to wear masks.

[tishaLA]

25. In my little section of Los Angeles, I almost never see

someone without a mask on. That obviously isn't the case all over LA or we wouldn't have the steep increase in covid cases we've had, though.

[chowder66]

28. I just took a drive in Hollywood to exercise my car

and it was the first time I have seen a lot of people not wearing masks. It was pretty disheartening. This is around the Franklin Village/Hollywood Hills area.

[Beaverhausen]

29. I'm in the west San Fernando Valley and I'd say we have 85-90% compliance

every store I go to has about a 95% compliance.

[tishaLA]

32. I'm in DTLA and I don't know of a single store

that allows people in without a mask. Even the little liquor store has a sign up telling people they need a mask because "covid ain't the game"

[LW1977]

27. Poor poor OC protesters

They’ll have to testify in Sacramento instead of the Orange County commission about how unfair it is.

[Dukkha]

31. How could they be against masks?

Social distancing is a golden age for introverts. Why don't the ugly people see the masks the same way? It's a win win.

[NJCher]

48. love this comment

so true, so true.

[wiggs]

34. I've driven through Dana Point, San Clemente, Laguna Beach, Newport Beach, and Huntington Beach..

And almost no one is wearing masks at the beach, going to the beach, walking around town, hiking on trails, etc. I believe it's fine not to wear a mask when no one is around and you're walking in your neighborhood or on a trail. But I see mostly youngsters still congregating at crosswalks, hanging in groups, getting out of cars together unmasked, etc..

I think this will catch up to them and us sooner or later.

And a LOT of them are going to the beach or coast towns since theaters are closed, malls until recently were closed, jobs are more scarce, in person school isn't happening, etc. It's been VERY crowded along the coast, more traffic than normal summertime.

In general on the sidewalks and streets, Laguna seems to have a noticeably higher percentage wearing masks but still not a majority.

[BigmanPigman]

41. Fine the shit out of the non-wearers.

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It will help to recoup the financial losses in the state and help public education stay safe.

"Kate Folmar, a spokeswoman for the California Health and Human Services agency, said violating the order could bring a misdemeanor charge, a fine, or other penalties, or that California's Division of Occupational Safety and Health could take action against businesses."

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/california-orders-people-wear-masks-indoor-spaces-71327757

[ansible]

42. Good luck trying to enforce that

Do you really want people to hate the cops even more than they already do right now?

[hardluck]

43. Not to mention do we really need more citizen/cop interactions

The dilemma is that our social fabric is so frayed it’s hard to get to necessary voluntary compliance. Still, I don’t think giving the cops another thing to enforce is the way to go.

[diva77]

44. perhaps strategically placed signage as well as mask-giveaways would help educate people and make it

easier for them to comply.

[miyazaki]

45. Yes, either comply or be refused business.

If they don't like being refused business then they can call the cops rofl. See how far that gets them.

[Kind of Blue]

47. +1000!

[littlemissmartypants]

49. Anyone want to guess how many beach goers are worried about mask tan lines?

Vanity breeds stupidity. Thank you Governor Newsom for being a voice of reason in a sea of insanity.

Thanks for sharing this, brooklynite.

❤ lmsp

[Demovictory9]

51. Some.stores giving masks to people upon entry

That helps