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Omaha Steve

(99,653 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:46 PM Jun 2020

Trump team seeks 4th debate with Biden, cites voting by mail

Source: AP

By ZEKE MILLER

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s campaign is requesting a fourth debate with his presumptive Democratic rival, citing an expected surge in mail and absentee voting this fall because of the coronavirus.

Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani made the request Thursday in a call with Frank Fahrenkopf, the co-chair of the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates. The request was described by a person familiar with the conversation who was not authorized to discuss it publicly.

“We want fair debates,” Parscale said. “We want them sooner and we want a bigger schedule. We also don’t want them up against football games competing for viewers. As many Americans as possible need to see the stark differences between the accomplishments and leadership of President Trump and the failed record and sleepiness of Joe Biden.”

It marked a dramatic reversal from the Trump campaign’s position in December, when Trump and Parscale were threatening that the president could participate in fewer or even no debates put on by the commission, against his Democratic opponent.



President Donald Trump arrives to speak about the PREVENTS "President's Roadmap to Empower Veterans and End a National Tragedy of Suicide," task force, in the East Room of the White House, Wednesday, June 17, 2020, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)


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Trump team seeks 4th debate with Biden, cites voting by mail (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2020 OP
Anyone but me think dotard will never agree to debate Joe? Or, after the first one be too angry Thekaspervote Jun 2020 #1
Possible they are laying ground work for skipping debates calguy Jun 2020 #4
Yes. That's what he's doing here. Walleye Jun 2020 #5
I predicted that even before we had a nominee SCantiGOP Jun 2020 #16
His only chance of winning is to get lucky in the debates Polybius Jun 2020 #40
It seems to me the fourth debate is meant to totally railroad Joe. no_hypocrisy Jun 2020 #2
Joe doesn't think well on his feet. I don't want him to debate trump at all. BComplex Jun 2020 #25
He handled Paul Ryan just fine. RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #26
Well, evidently we're going to get to see the result. BComplex Jun 2020 #27
And Sarah Palin. no_hypocrisy Jun 2020 #30
And Sarah Palin isn't Donald Trump BComplex Jun 2020 #45
That was 8 years ago Polybius Jun 2020 #41
BS. Joe would eat the Idiot's lunch. onetexan Jun 2020 #37
Biden did fine one-on-one vs. Sanders last time. thesquanderer Jun 2020 #44
More evidence Trump really is freaking out over his cratering poll numbers. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #3
Yes, but I do hope Biden skips any debates as well. See, it's a fact that the more Trumpy talks... machoneman Jun 2020 #38
Im hoping he'll pop a vein in the freakout onetexan Jun 2020 #43
Trump can't debate bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #6
Agreed. All Trump does is throw out insults. kskiska Jun 2020 #24
A fourth debate because of expected mail-iin voting? Nah. Trump is bleeding voters Raven123 Jun 2020 #7
I don't get what mail-in voting has to do with adding another debate. scarletwoman Jun 2020 #8
Ah, so they know they're losing DarthDem Jun 2020 #9
I'm not a Debbie Downer gab13by13 Jun 2020 #10
I thought il douche threatened no debates? rpannier Jun 2020 #11
Remember when Trump also said: Marie Marie Jun 2020 #12
Bring it on, Bunker Boy. sandensea Jun 2020 #13
wow... i just assumed drumpf would not debate at all....... Takket Jun 2020 #14
People in Hell want a drink of water...that don't mean they get one. FailureToCommunicate Jun 2020 #15
That was my reaction as well. Dem2theMax Jun 2020 #17
Trump won't be physically up for it More_Cowbell Jun 2020 #18
He probably messed his pants again. BComplex Jun 2020 #46
Biden campaign's response 93_NCSU Jun 2020 #19
Excellent response. Just ignore him after this. captain queeg Jun 2020 #20
He's probably going to have COVID on his hand and reach out to shake Biden's hand. C Moon Jun 2020 #21
Parscale and Giuliani? There's a clear signal that this is some kind of shit business floating down NBachers Jun 2020 #22
Well, someone knows they are loosing... BlueIdaho Jun 2020 #23
whatever tRump wants please respond with kiss my ass. nt yaesu Jun 2020 #28
There's no way Dementia Donnie is sane enough to debate. n/t area51 Jun 2020 #29
Will it feature a water-drinking contest? Maeve Jun 2020 #31
Joe , tell the gop whizbangs.. Maxheader Jun 2020 #32
Not sure the American people can stand even one debate that includes this moron. honest.abe Jun 2020 #33
Here is the response of the Biden campaign Gothmog Jun 2020 #34
Thanks for the heads up Omaha Steve Jun 2020 #36
Perfect response! honest.abe Jun 2020 #42
Dump thinks he can overrun ...... dawnie51 Jun 2020 #35
The turd can't put together a coherent sentence without a teleprompter. not_the_one Jun 2020 #39
They don't want a fourth debate Roc2020 Jun 2020 #47

Thekaspervote

(32,771 posts)
1. Anyone but me think dotard will never agree to debate Joe? Or, after the first one be too angry
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:49 PM
Jun 2020

And claim he won and no need for further debates?

calguy

(5,311 posts)
4. Possible they are laying ground work for skipping debates
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:59 PM
Jun 2020

Making it appear like he wants more debates and then not agreeing to any kind of format, walking out and saying they were not fair. Sounds like something they'd do.

Walleye

(31,027 posts)
5. Yes. That's what he's doing here.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:00 PM
Jun 2020

He makes a stupid demand, and when he doesn’t get it, he’ll throw a hissy fit and refuse to debate if he doesn’t get his way. Because he’s too chicken to debate Joe.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
16. I predicted that even before we had a nominee
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:00 PM
Jun 2020

I don’t think he can risk being compared side by side with Biden.
I figured they might set some unreasonable terms - like only using FOX because other networks are not legitimate - and then blaming the Dems for avoiding debates.

Polybius

(15,423 posts)
40. His only chance of winning is to get lucky in the debates
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 09:43 AM
Jun 2020

There's no chance he doesn't debate, he loves doing it.

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
2. It seems to me the fourth debate is meant to totally railroad Joe.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:57 PM
Jun 2020

Each of the first three debates, Joe will likely win and the Trump campaign will use whatever garbage they can manufacture to throw at Joe at the next debate. If all three debates don't reap results for Trump, he'll use the fourth debate, not for the purpose of arguments and rebuttals, but to just trash Joe. He'll treat it like a rally and that will be the last thing viewers will remember before they go to the polls.

I hope I'm wrong.

BComplex

(8,053 posts)
25. Joe doesn't think well on his feet. I don't want him to debate trump at all.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:48 AM
Jun 2020

Joe is a good man, and trump is a pile of shit. But trump loves a rally, and joe is soft-spoken and thoughtful, but stutters and lags when he's nervous.

BComplex

(8,053 posts)
27. Well, evidently we're going to get to see the result.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:55 AM
Jun 2020

Nobody asked me. It's just my two cents. I've watched him for many many many many years.

BComplex

(8,053 posts)
45. And Sarah Palin isn't Donald Trump
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jun 2020

They're both despicable, but she's no trumpster from the dumpster.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
44. Biden did fine one-on-one vs. Sanders last time.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 10:33 AM
Jun 2020

Of course, Sanders was honest and respectful, and Trump will not be, which will make it that much more difficult.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
38. Yes, but I do hope Biden skips any debates as well. See, it's a fact that the more Trumpy talks...
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 09:38 AM
Jun 2020

...and acts, the worse his poll numbers get. See, it's the old adage to never get in the way of a man digging his own hole. And I kid you not, why stop Trumpy's rapid and continuing decline?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
8. I don't get what mail-in voting has to do with adding another debate.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:35 PM
Jun 2020

I suspect that maybe they're hoping that 4 debates will tire Biden?

gab13by13

(21,349 posts)
10. I'm not a Debbie Downer
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:37 PM
Jun 2020

but debating isn't Joe's strong suit, I'm sorry, attack me. Trump has the advantage in debates because he has zero problem lying.

I think Joe will hold his own in the debates. If Fox gets a debate be sure that Trump will get the questions ahead of time.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
12. Remember when Trump also said:
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:42 PM
Jun 2020

That he would LOVE to release his tax returns BUT he was being audited.
That he would LOVE to testify to Mueller but....blah blah blah

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
13. Bring it on, Bunker Boy.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:46 PM
Jun 2020

My guess is that after the first one, Cheeto will bail on the rest of them - citing Covid fears as an excuse.

Takket

(21,573 posts)
14. wow... i just assumed drumpf would not debate at all.......
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:48 PM
Jun 2020

i don't really see how debating benefits him and adding a 4th only makes it worse. if i was biden i'd be like "fine by me!"

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
15. People in Hell want a drink of water...that don't mean they get one.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:54 PM
Jun 2020

"...the accomplishments and leadership of President Trump and the failed record and sleepiness of Joe Biden.”


More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
18. Trump won't be physically up for it
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:20 PM
Jun 2020

I'm waiting to see how he looks at his rally. At today's small business meeting they cleared the room while he stayed seated. He's deteriorating quickly.

BComplex

(8,053 posts)
46. He probably messed his pants again.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 10:40 AM
Jun 2020

Insiders say he's lost control of his bowels. Probably too many drugs.

93_NCSU

(7 posts)
19. Biden campaign's response
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:44 PM
Jun 2020

Source : TheHill

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/503511-biden-campaign-rebukes-trump-effort-to-push-for-more-debates

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Bedingfield continued, saying that the former vice president's campaign would not "ride the roller coaster" of Trump's "ever-changing" position of debates, but rather, participate in the events that have already been officially scheduled.

“We will make this simple: like every other Democratic and Republican candidate since 1992, we will show up for the debates set by the Commission on Presidential Debates, at the places they have selected, on the dates they have selected, with the formats and moderators they designate — so long as Donald Trump does the same, and does not intimidate the Commission into changes from past practices,” she said.
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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
23. Well, someone knows they are loosing...
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:12 AM
Jun 2020

Fuck the debates. No one has ever proven a link between debate performance and electability. They haven’t been relevant for decades.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
33. Not sure the American people can stand even one debate that includes this moron.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:04 AM
Jun 2020

If I were the Biden team I would request to deny their request. Three is more than enough. Every voter in America already clearly knows the differences between these two candidates.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
35. Dump thinks he can overrun ......
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:53 AM
Jun 2020

a debate. He won't debate; he'll run his mouth non-stop about stupidities, and not let anyone get a word in edgewise. If confronted for that he'll become even louder and more abusive. He'll be a reality shit show at 150 mph. He cannot debate; he knows nothing about anything; so it'll be name calling and facial gestures and aggressive body language. Who in the world would abet such foolishness?

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
39. The turd can't put together a coherent sentence without a teleprompter.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 09:42 AM
Jun 2020

Since you can't use a teleprompter in a debate, he is going to look like the mumbling idiot that he is. Joe, although prone to gaffes, would make mince meat of the turd.

His turdness will never debate. They are looking for an excuse to bail.

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
47. They don't want a fourth debate
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jun 2020

Trump does not want to debate at all. All Biden needs to bring to the debate is Bolton's book! Biden is going to cook and flame broil Trump.

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