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ansible

(1,718 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 02:53 PM Jun 2020

Every Atlanta police officer gets $500 bonus from foundation to 'boost morale' as sick-outs continue

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/19/a

One day after a number of Atlanta police officers called in sick, prompting rumors of a mass walkout in protest of murder charges filed against a former officer, a police foundation announced Thursday that it had given every officer in the city a $500 bonus.

The bonuses, which reportedly total more than $2 million, are part of a broader effort to “stem attrition and boost morale,” the Atlanta Police Foundation said in a statement to local media outlets. In addition to the money, which was provided through donations, the foundation also plans to replace at least 20 patrol cars that have been damaged during the ongoing protests that have consumed the city for weeks, WSB reported.

“We’re afraid of losing good police officers, our city losing good police officers,” the foundation’s president and CEO Dave Wilkinson told the news station. “All this is in support of just showing that we appreciate the sacrifice these officers have made during this time.” Local leaders, including Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms (D) and interim police chief Rodney Bryant, have spoken publicly about waning morale among police officers in recent days, in part due to the protests over racism and police brutality that have sparked intense anti-police sentiment in the city and nationwide.

The discontent within the police department appeared to reach a boiling point this week after Fulton County District Attorney Paul L. Howard Jr. brought felony murder and other charges against Garrett Rolfe, the former officer who fatally shot Rayshard Brooks, a black man, in the back. Following Howard’s announcement of the charges Wednesday, an undisclosed number of Atlanta police officers called in sick just before a shift change that evening.



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Every Atlanta police officer gets $500 bonus from foundation to 'boost morale' as sick-outs continue (Original Post) ansible Jun 2020 OP
"We're afraid of losing good police officers" denem Jun 2020 #1
Good police officers do not call in sick because they can't kill civilians without consequences. LonePirate Jun 2020 #2
This☝️ I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #3
Good cops... tazkcmo Jun 2020 #5
Agreed. nt cstanleytech Jun 2020 #7
+1 Nevilledog Jun 2020 #8
*ding!* Winner. nt crickets Jun 2020 #13
Amen! Delphinus Jun 2020 #22
Bingo! BComplex Jun 2020 #34
It is called Timewas Jun 2020 #4
Bingo! I know, have a national 'police call in sick day', call it 'The Purge, Election Year' Baclava Jun 2020 #11
Pay the cops off, isn't that ironic. LizBeth Jun 2020 #6
Fire their asses and hire women and people of color. fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 #9
Wiki's demographics for the Atlanta police: Igel Jun 2020 #12
Baased on those numbers, Asian and women officers are significantly under represented MichMan Jun 2020 #15
Women are under-represented in police in general, not just in Atlanta. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #18
So is the "Atlanta Police Foundation" a public or private group? rurallib Jun 2020 #10
It's a private 501c3 organization greenjar_01 Jun 2020 #32
I may be wrong but I believe police officers paid well. LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #14
Average salary for a cop in the US is just under $54,000 a year. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #19
That doesn't include their benefits and pension. LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #21
Neither does the average salary for the US that I found. N/T Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #23
Median HOUSEHOLD Income Is $66.5k ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #26
I looked up the average salaries for an individual and for a cop, and those are the numbers I got. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #27
Not Quite ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #28
The starting pay for a phx police officer is 52k Mosby Jun 2020 #30
Probably, yeah. I expect it drops precipitously the further out you go from metro areas. N/T Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #33
Every cop who does this stupid sick out should be fired sakabatou Jun 2020 #16
Based on their contracts, they probably can't be fired as long as they have sick time to take. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #20
And here I would've thought of dereliction of duty. sakabatou Jun 2020 #24
Sick/personal days can be used at any time and for any reason, as long as you have them. N/T Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #25
Isn't this a "dis-incentive" to work? Collimator Jun 2020 #17
Who are these people? Happy Hoosier Jun 2020 #29
Just set up a "non-political" 501c3 to officially bribe public employees greenjar_01 Jun 2020 #31

Igel

(35,310 posts)
12. Wiki's demographics for the Atlanta police:
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 05:08 PM
Jun 2020
Breakdown of the makeup of the rank and file of APD:[4]
Male: 82%
Female: 18%
African American/Black: 58%
Caucasian/ White: 37%
Hispanic: 4%
Asian: 1%


As with everything else, when looking at who's hired I always want to look at the applicant pool.

But for now, just notice that 63% (at the time of data-finding for the Wiki article) of the police were POC.


Atlanta Demographics
According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Atlanta was:
•Black or African American: 51.85%
•White: 40.27%
•Asian: 4.16%
•Two or more races: 2.41%
•Other race: 1.05%
•Native American: 0.24%
•Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.03%

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/atlanta-population/

Can't tell anything about "Hispanic" from the ACS data as cited; Latinos/Hispanics are largely white in census terms (with the rest being "black" ) .

Jedi Guy

(3,191 posts)
18. Women are under-represented in police in general, not just in Atlanta.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jun 2020

Ditto with Asian-Americans. Is that because fewer women and Asian-Americans choose to go into law enforcement as a career, or because departments prefer not to hire them?

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
10. So is the "Atlanta Police Foundation" a public or private group?
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jun 2020

If it is private, there are some things that really bother me about that. Sounds like bribery and buying favors.

LiberalFighter

(50,931 posts)
14. I may be wrong but I believe police officers paid well.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 09:57 PM
Jun 2020

And I don't donate to any police organization. Again they get paid well.

Jedi Guy

(3,191 posts)
19. Average salary for a cop in the US is just under $54,000 a year.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jun 2020

The average salary in the US is $56,500 a year. So cops aren't paid well in those terms, earning less than the average. That likely varies widely based on location, though. An NYPD officer is going to be paid more than a cop in, say, Biloxi, Mississippi.

ProfessorGAC

(65,044 posts)
26. Median HOUSEHOLD Income Is $66.5k
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 05:53 PM
Jun 2020

You showed $56k for cops.
Saying it's below average suggests a vast majority of cops have single income households.
In 2020, even a majority meeting that standard is unlikely.
So, it's doubtful police salaries are statistically significantly below average.
In that, since a 2nd income would only have to be $15k per year to be statistically above average, I think it far more likely police household are, in fact, above the median.

Jedi Guy

(3,191 posts)
27. I looked up the average salaries for an individual and for a cop, and those are the numbers I got.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jun 2020

I also never said police salaries were significantly below average. I didn't do a deep dive, either. Looking at the Google results again, different news outlets are showing different numbers, as well.

ProfessorGAC

(65,044 posts)
28. Not Quite
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jun 2020

These are 2019 numbers as issued by the Bureau of Labor Statistics

the U.S.?
What is the average income in the U.S. currently, and how do factors like your job and age impact it?
STEVE FIORILLOUPDATED:FEB 11, 2020 4:02 PM ESTORIGINAL:FEB 3, 2019
Exactly how is the economy for workers? Unemployment levels continue to go down, but automation and gig economy contract jobs can still make everything feel uncertain.

So one way people may think to look at how the economy is doing for employees is income. This can help give a more solid idea by determining the mean or median income in the country, but a deeper look is required - one single number doesn't tell the whole story of how many factors, occupations, institutional biases and more go into what a person's income actually is.

But before all that, what, at the moment, is the average income in the U.S.?

Average Income in the U.S.
Recently, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) released their report on the Usual Weekly Earnings of Wage and Salary Workers. Using information from the fourth fiscal quarter of 2019, the BLS claims that in that quarter, the median income for a full-time wage or salary worker on a weekly basis was $936. For a 40-hour work week, this translates to a yearly income of approximately $48,672. This is a 4% increase on the previous year.

When seasonal adjustments (holidays, severe weather, etc.) are taken into account by the BLS, the median weekly earnings are $933, or about $48,516


So, the median worker makes 8/9ths of the average cop. Police salaries are, statistically significantly above the median.

You can't use average salaries, because a CEO making $20 million or a professional athlete making $40 million skews the average badly. 9,999 people making $50 grand gives us $499,950,000. Add $40 million from Kevin Durant, for instance. (Not picking on Kevin). Now, we're at $539,950,000. Divide by 10,000. We get an average of $53,995. Nearly 4 grand above the median or around 8%, caused by a single high earner. Now imagine people at 90% of the median. The average gets skewed by a higher percentage, even though it's the same 4 grand.

The median is the more important statistic when reviewing data like salaries. One is either above or below the median, so limited skewing (in the example a number that moves 1 person out of 10,000 to below the median is not significant skewing.

In addition, the calculation of standard deviation using the median more accurately captures the distribution by not inflating it.

The median is really the only way to go with personal econometric data.

Mosby

(16,312 posts)
30. The starting pay for a phx police officer is 52k
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 12:14 PM
Jun 2020

I suspect the average pay for police in large cities is quite a bit higher than the national average.

Jedi Guy

(3,191 posts)
20. Based on their contracts, they probably can't be fired as long as they have sick time to take.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 12:38 PM
Jun 2020

They're probably given X number of sick/personal days per year that they can use. If they go over that number, those days are probably unpaid. But their sick/personal days are theirs to use as they like. Firing them for using a sick day probably wouldn't fly and would result in a lawsuit. And odds are the cops would win.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
17. Isn't this a "dis-incentive" to work?
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 10:07 AM
Jun 2020

At least, that's what Larry Kudlow would think. . . when it comes to giving regular people an extra $600 in unemployment benefits.

Once again, law enforcement officers are somehow above or apart from the law.

Happy Hoosier

(7,308 posts)
29. Who are these people?
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 12:08 PM
Jun 2020

When I was a Federal employee, we were not even supposed to accept free coffee when acting in an official capacity. We were supposed to pay our hosts 50 cents a cup out of our own pockets. And these folks can just send $500 checks to cops?

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
31. Just set up a "non-political" 501c3 to officially bribe public employees
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 12:14 PM
Jun 2020

We live in an extremely corrupt and broken country.

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