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alp227

(32,026 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 03:40 PM Jun 2020

Navy won't reinstate coronavirus-hit carrier captain, puts admiral's promotion on hold

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Navy will not reinstate Captain Brett Crozier after finding fault with his response to the outbreak of the coronavirus aboard the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt and is also putting an admiral’s promotion on hold, sources told Reuters on Friday.

The decisions, first reported by Reuters, are expected to be announced later on Friday at a news conference by the Navy’s top leaders.

Crozier was hailed by his crew as a hero for risking his job by writing a letter that leaked calling on the Navy for greater safeguards for his crew. A previous Navy investigation had recommended reinstating him.

But a more in-depth probe, the results of which will be disclosed at least in part on Friday, are expected to detail concerns about his response to the virus, the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told Reuters. It was unclear whether that would include his failure to address those concerns through proper channels.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-navy-coronavirus-carrier-exclusiv/navy-wont-reinstate-coronavirus-hit-carrier-captain-puts-admirals-promotion-on-hold-idUSKBN23Q31H

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Navy won't reinstate coronavirus-hit carrier captain, puts admiral's promotion on hold (Original Post) alp227 Jun 2020 OP
The military trying to appease Trump? Lonestarblue Jun 2020 #1
In my mind bluestarone Jun 2020 #3
It would seem that way Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #5
military "leadership" Skittles Jun 2020 #18
You know this is being directed by MF45 and when Biden becomes President kimbutgar Jun 2020 #2
This will happen. nt oasis Jun 2020 #16
The new administration will right this wrong. Sneederbunk Jun 2020 #4
They just waited until we "forgot" soothsayer Jun 2020 #6
Another Friday news dump story. n/t Mr.Bill Jun 2020 #7
Trump's hand is in this. marble falls Jun 2020 #8
Fuck you, Naval leadership. Fuck you dead. (nt) Paladin Jun 2020 #9
It's worse than this news item indicates. 70sEraVet Jun 2020 #10
That kills his career. n/t sarge43 Jun 2020 #11
I think he simply lost the trust of his superiors Steelrolled Jun 2020 #20
I don't think any of the idiots who made this decision are his "superiors." SunSeeker Jun 2020 #21
+100 SunSeeker bronxiteforever Jun 2020 #22
The "Trust" problem is with his "superiors". A house cleaning is in order come next January. nt Cognitive_Resonance Jun 2020 #23
:( Cha Jun 2020 #12
Add this to the pardoning of the U.S.Navy Seal DENVERPOPS Jun 2020 #13
And the pardon of the Army Lt who was convicted and serving time. keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #15
In the long run, Trump will be gone and it will be: 'America condones war crimes'. keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #17
On January 20th Biden should notify the US Navy officers involved in this "review" not_the_one Jun 2020 #14
As far as I know, under the UCMJ they can't. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #19

bluestarone

(16,959 posts)
3. In my mind
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jun 2020

THERE IS NO DOUBT to this!! How this single fucking human being (RUMP) can scare EVERY RETHUGLICON in our country is beyond me! Where the fuck does he get that much power?

kimbutgar

(21,155 posts)
2. You know this is being directed by MF45 and when Biden becomes President
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 03:44 PM
Jun 2020

Captain Crozier will get reinstated. Just like Lt Colonel Vindman will be elevated to Colonel.

This is just to appease the tiny handed poopy diaper President.

70sEraVet

(3,503 posts)
10. It's worse than this news item indicates.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jun 2020

According the Business Insider:
"Not only will Crozier not be reinstated, but he will also not be eligible for command in the future, Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Mike Gilday said Friday."

https://www.businessinsider.com/navy-to-not-reinstate-brett-crozier-captain-fired-coronavirus-warnings-2020-6

A good Commanding Officer, wasted.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
13. Add this to the pardoning of the U.S.Navy Seal
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:32 PM
Jun 2020

and I wonder if ALL the military's top brass are chicken shits.....seriously...............

This too, does not bode well for the lower ranks morale.

keithbvadu2

(36,816 posts)
15. And the pardon of the Army Lt who was convicted and serving time.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:49 PM
Jun 2020

And the pardon of the Army Lt who was convicted and serving time.

keithbvadu2

(36,816 posts)
17. In the long run, Trump will be gone and it will be: 'America condones war crimes'.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jun 2020

In the long run, Trump will be gone and it will be: 'America condones war crimes'.

Whenever America brings up enemy war crimes, they will have a ready-made response.

Donald has given them a strong propaganda tool

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
14. On January 20th Biden should notify the US Navy officers involved in this "review"
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:49 PM
Jun 2020

that he will accept their resignations, by noon. No discussion.

He should also add that ANY military officer of any branch of service, that "caved" and carried out suspect orders under pressure from the previous president, can expect a similar notification, and they should start to prepare for that eventuality.

Then actually do it.

Military officers are advisers to the president, and are expected to do just that, ADVISE, not bend, throw their moral center out the window, and cave to a capricious, vindictive president. They also have to be able to say NO.

Doing the dirty work for someone else has already established that the action in question, is itself questionable. They should have made the president do it himself. At least they can say they advised that the action not be done, and wouldn't themselves be tainted by the president's own actions.

This can't be done? Yes, it can.

New Rules, Baby.

Jedi Guy

(3,192 posts)
19. As far as I know, under the UCMJ they can't.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 09:07 PM
Jun 2020

They have to follow orders unless they're expressly illegal. No officer has a "right" to his position, and in theory can be removed from or denied command at the President's discretion. Is it shitty in this case? Absolutely. Does it fall under the exception in the UCMJ which would allow them to disobey the order? Doubtful.

They can advise against it all they want, but if the President says "remove him from command" or "don't give him back his command" they really don't have a choice. I suppose they could resign in protest, but all that'd do is get their spot filled by a sycophant.

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